Paul1Perth Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 We are always looking Bob. $54k a year working two weeks on one off, 12 hours a day split shifts. No wonder you are always looking paying those salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Thought Telfer might have been $98k type work... By the bye...I heard (1970s) that the original surface assays at that place went 2-3 oz/tonne. Is that so? Cheers, Bobj. Noooo. Most mines cleaning and catering is farmed out to contractors. The biggest and who do most of the mines now is ESS. The going rate for cleaners is $54k. I always find it funny when people think everyone in mining is on big money. For example, the average pay for a truck driver underground is only $80k on a 2:1 roster. There are a few guys that get big money, but for specialist skills. There is a machine underground called a jumbo which is like a truck with two big booms on the front that drill blast holes and things. The operators of which get about $280k for week on week off. Yes, Telfer was discovered with surface hits of 2-3 g/t, though the exploration team had a good idea there was going to be something here as soon as they saw it - its a big dome. I have a picture on my wall here of the first drill hole being drilled in 1972. Some of the people who lived here when it was a town are still here. One of the admin girls grew up here. Strange place to grow up if you ask me as its bloody hot in summer and were a pretty long way from anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Originally Posted by Bobj .two were kanucks .:wink: Cheers, Bobj. Excuse me?So quintessentially Australian I wanted to congratulate you for passing your Australian probation, Bobj. :wubclub: But I'm unsure why using an Americanism is "quintessentially Australian". ???:err: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest26110 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 If you come across in Oz like you have on here, not being funny as ''The million $ project man'' don't expect much as Aussies hate this type of attitude you might need to take a step back to get a foot in the door, and then let your skills speak for you, sorry to be so frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I think anyone hates the sort of attitude you described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgt Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 can i hold your bucket bobi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest74886 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 To anyone coming to Australia without a job, don't come delay your migration. Australia is not working every state is down, I've applied for over 200 jobs, you don't get a call, you don't get a email you get nothing it all goes straight in the bin. we've been here 8 months, spent $35,000 dollars and running at a loss of $1500 a month. i would advise anyone coming here without a job, DON'T, wait till the last minute before you activate your visa, there isn't any work here, were in Brisbane, government cuts cuts cuts and believe me, it's far far worse than anything in the UK. im a senior project manager, worked on the Olympics can't get a thing, lucky the wife has a job otherwise we would gone back at Xmas. believe me guys, stay where you are Austarlia is not working for thousands of expats, many going back. tHERE IS A JOB ADVERT ON HERE ON THE JOBS AVAILABLE SECTION WHICH MIGHT BE OF INTEREST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortlepuss Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Fyertuck - please post if you get time to let me know how you are getting on in Melbourne (or PM if you prefer). As I'll be checking out Melbourne post July I'm really interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kempster23a Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Well after a 2 years we've been here 8 months applied for over 200 jobs, with covering letter and 3email returns telling me I don't have Queensland experience, so I can work on an Olympic program of works in London, senior project manager working on millions of pounds worth of projects yet I can't build a shed at the end of the garden in Australia. i would say to anyone coming to Australia, delay it, don't come. Australia is not working at all. It looks after it's own 1st and there are lots of ozzies out of work they will come 1st, then the expats. ONLY COME IF YOU HAVE A JOB. its not the dream anymore, it's not paradise anymore as it once was, there isn't any work, recruitment guys don't get back to you your totally in the dark, we've spent $35,000 dollars in 8 months, the wife is working otherwise we would be gone by now.. be warned don't come without a job, Australia is not working!,,,,,,,, I'd have to agree on one aspect of your post. The "Brisbane" or 'Queensland" experience is farcical to say the least, but I had a similar experience nearly 5 years ago. I applied for loads of job, about 60 maybe, but that was at the time of the GFC. What I did was take a job that I knew I was never going to like, just to get that so called experience, just for the sake of having something on my resume. There are a lot of jobs out there, but sometime it's not what you know, it’s who you know, and being able to push through the resistance that is the QLD job market will seem almost laughable once you crack your fist job. I can sense from what you're saying, that you're frustrated and rightly so, but that frustration won’t get you a job, and may come across that way in an interview or on the phone. I'd suggest registering, if you haven’t already with an agency, there are a lots out there also, just waiting for the right candidate to put forward, and 1 person not calling you back shouldn’t put you off. Have you tried other areas of work, instead of Project Management? That may be worth considering also. Good Luck, I Hope it works out for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shugah Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Mr.Fryertuck thanks for sharing your experience. Well I'm sorry as I won't beat around the bush, so hope you can take it straight that your role is different. Others who are coming and have different roles are getting the job in Brisbane and other states. Please change the the tread that people with your designation not to come to brisbane. Crucify me for saying that. Folks there are heaps of jobs out there and if use have come to Aus with intention of moving here then don't give up, please stay find something else if you dont get or move to other city. There are jobs and me saying this is not showing rosy picture but this post is for people who seriously want to move to kangrooland for good. Mr.Fryertuck I wish you all the best for your job search and all the best to those who are hunting for one and please do come to Aus better than Euro market anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Of course there are jobs. That is the same everywhere. All of my friends changed jobs for more money and better jobs during the last 5 years in the UK. Heck, we have a relative who has done very well in Spain recently and even a niece that has been fine in Greece. But, there are a number of sectors in Oz that are finding it very hard. Some worse than the worse parts of Europe. It will always vary by role. One year a particular role can be in massive demand. A couple of years later zilch. That's the nature of the beast. But it doesn't detract from the OP Mr.Fryertuck thanks for sharing your experience. Well I'm sorry as I won't beat around the bush, so hope you can take it straight that your role is different. Others who are coming and have different roles are getting the job in Brisbane and other states. Please change the the tread that people with your designation not to come to brisbane. Crucify me for saying that. Folks there are heaps of jobs out there and if use have come to Aus with intention of moving here then don't give up, please stay find something else if you dont get or move to other city. There are jobs and me saying this is not showing rosy picture but this post is for people who seriously want to move to kangrooland for good. Mr.Fryertuck I wish you all the best for your job search and all the best to those who are hunting for one and please do come to Aus better than Euro market anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 This thread, yet again, shows the danger of generalisations. Australia is a big country with lots of different areas of professional specialisation and industries. There are also regional differences in terms of supply and demand. Just as an example, my stepson in Brisbane specialises in spray painting cars. His skills are in such short supply that he's been "head hunted" 3 times in the last two years. I'm sure there are other jobs in Brisbane where the demand is at that level--but I'm equally sure that there are also jobs that are over subscribed where there are few if any vacancies. Factor in the size of Aus and the differences among the various cities and it's simply not accurate to say something like "there are no jobs in Australia". There are plenty--but perhaps not in the OP's area of speciality in Brisbane. One final more personal comment: the OP mentions that he's a "senior manger" who worked on the Olympics. Having been a senior manager myself (before my retirement my job title was Vice President Technical Operations and Engineering) I'd suggest that, at this level, jobs are something you need to arrange before moving. Senior positions tend to be head-hunted or filled by promotion from within. Even back in London, I'd have been wary of quitting and trying to find another job at the same level unless I already had something set up. Add in a move to a country where you have no track record and you'd have to be very lucky to find a senior position quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Would you rather be out of work in Paradise, or.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I would rather be out of work in Coventry running the gauntlet of chavs in the city centre. makes you feel alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubbert0403 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 My own experience, hubby was offered a job so we were lucky in that aspect, if we had come here without work, even with his experience it would have been difficult, especially as he is applying for other jobs whilst in a job and been promoted twice, but I have been looking since last December!, I have applied for well over 500 jobs, not even being choosy, I am HR qualified, have extensive PA/admin experience, still only had 1 job which lasted 2 months and they found me on LinkedIn!!!I have gone through every emotion from frustration, deflated, worthless etc......I am now looking at retraining and getting the all important 'Australian' qualifications, aswell as doing some voluntary work. i think if we had come out here on our own steam, as originally planned, we would have headed back by now, so I would agree if at all possible secure a job before arriving, it is a great help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Would you rather be out of work in Paradise, or.......... Would you rather be poor and starving in a sweet shop or a sewer ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinkla Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Would you rather be out of work in Paradise, or.......... I'm not sure I'd classify Thomastown, Sunshine or Greater Western Sydney as Paradise - because that's where you'd be if you were long term jobless here. Plus, if you're on the dole, you'll find your money goes further in Britain than in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolac34 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Would you rather be out of work in Paradise, or.......... Back in the UK with friends and family to help and support me? Yes I'd choose the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolac34 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'm not sure I'd classify Thomastown, Sunshine or Greater Western Sydney as Paradise - because that's where you'd be if you were long term jobless here. Plus, if you're on the dole, you'll find your money goes further in Britain than in Australia. And most wouldn't qualify for the dole anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janinewhiteley Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I am sorry but i see it different, Melbourne is growing and every job i have applied for i have had an interview.Their are big growth areas. If one state doesn't work , try another. It also depends on the type of work you do. What has happened in your situation may not be the same for the next person. Please dot paint such a dark picture , when this is not the the same everywhere and everyone. Janine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ptp113 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'm not sure I'd classify Thomastown, Sunshine or Greater Western Sydney as Paradise - because that's where you'd be if you were long term jobless here. Plus, if you're on the dole, you'll find your money goes further in Britain than in Australia. Maybe, but what's the point when your existing in a pommyland? Nobody deserves that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortlepuss Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I'm not sure I'd classify Thomastown, Sunshine or Greater Western Sydney as Paradise - because that's where you'd be if you were long term jobless here. Plus, if you're on the dole, you'll find your money goes further in Britain than in Australia. Really good point. If you're out of work it's much more sensible to be somewhere where cost of living is substantially lower and you can get access to free healthcare. All the sunshine in the world doesn't make up for being skint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movingbacktoaus Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Move out in July, got a job within the 1st week on a temp basis but now permanent. My wife took a bit longer to get a job, and only because she is pregnant, but she has got a permanent job. It's not all doom and gloom. Will work out for some but sadly not others. But you never never know if you don't give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Yup. I all depends on where you move and what your skills are. Statistically, the job market is better in Aus than the UK--but statistics don't reflect individual circumstances, just the broad picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Yup. I all depends on where you move and what your skills are. Statistically, the job market is better in Aus than the UK--but statistics don't reflect individual circumstances, just the broad picture. I agree. For example if you are a teacher and want to come to Western Australia right now then you would be crazy!!!! Huge education cuts mean lots of jobs have gone and students that are due to graduate very soon are being told that there will be no jobs next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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