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Quinkla last won the day on November 9 2015

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  1. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    Fair enough - that's their funeral. I guess the borders will have to remain closed then.
  2. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    I'm sure Victoria would be willing to share its experiences but ultimately it is not our responsibility to get your tracing capability up to scratch.
  3. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    No they don't. https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/are-covid-death-rates-really-falling-globally Please stop making stuff up. It doesn't help.
  4. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    How and ever, the Constitution sets states up as sovereign and the Commonwealth only gets a look in on issues that the states and territories have agreed to cede to the Commonwealth. Actually, a national approach would be very unhelpful right now. Even within states, we are seeing local differences in regulation according to need. A one size fits all approach either leads to restrictions being placed on areas that don't need it, or on an inability to tackle hotspots until the problem has got big enough to justify a national intervention.
  5. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    Of course not. Just noting that the same people who said we should open up for Mothers' Day are the same people who said our lockdown was not strict enough and we should have brought in the police/army, who are the same people who voted against a state of emergency, who are the same people as now say we should live with Covid and accept the mortality. I am not seeing scrutiny or strategy, just contrariness. As for who they are - they are the same people who signed a contract for the East West link a couple of weeks before an election they knew they would lose, committing Victorians to paying hundreds of millions for cancelling the contract just so they could criticise the new Government. Blowing millions of dollars of hard earned money and spreading a deadly virus to score political points - and still people vote for them. Go figure.
  6. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    If I were a cynic, I'd be suggesting that some people who don't have Daniel Andrews's best interests at heart are trying to sabotage his strategy in order to have political ammunition to lob at him - paying for that ammo with lives.
  7. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    It's interesting that none of the lead signatories on the Covid Medical Network article you cite are virologists. There seem to be a lot of anaesthetists, some GPs, a urologist... And the network of more than 500 Victorian doctors is actually a group of doctors, nurses and other health professionals who may or may not come from Victoria.
  8. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    No - it's a stupid question. This is a complex issue and it deserves serious consideration, not sloganeering or tricking people into making damaging statements.
  9. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    I'm not sure how that is flipping an argument around or how that is relevant. We know that the mortality from Covid is 2-4% and we know that if it is left unchecked, almost all of us will get it. So with Australia having a population of 20 million, that would be 400,000-800,000 deaths. I don't think many people would think that was OK if it could be avoided.
  10. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    But that is very selective. The bit about 200 deaths from Covid per week, for example, as a justification for removing restrictions. Sure, there was a time under lockdown when the death rate did get that low. It has since increased. Yesterday, for example, there were 138 deaths due to Covid. The day before there were 137. The day before there were 143. And since the start of Covid, there have been 43,293 deaths, which is about 1500 deaths per week, give or take. It exceeded 1100 deaths a day before lockdown. So by all means look at low death and transmission rates under lockdown, but be aware that the low numbers are because of lockdown, not because the virus has gone away.
  11. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    That may well have to happen, but that would be a decision for society as a whole, not for a couple of politicians or medics. The mortality rate in Victoria has been 4%. I just don't think we, as a society, are ready for that. The countries where they have lesser restrictions (e.g. UK, USA) still have some restrictions and they don't seem to be very happy with the way things are going. This is a bad situation, and blaming the people leading the response won't make the problem go away.
  12. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    Sadly that is not the case. Our super spreaders from Chadstone have managed to spread it as far as Shepparton. And this is what happens when we do have the restrictions. Imagine what it would be like without.
  13. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    The problem is that people seem to be contagious for a couple of days before they show symptoms - so there is the issue of their contacts for the past couple of days, and the contacts for those people, and so on. We are seeing in Victoria right now how easily and how far the virus can spread - one person in a shopping centre and a few days later we have infections 80km away in regional Victoria. And that is with Level 4 restrictions. If I were the NSW Premier I would be watching Victoria with a degree of concern that any one of the infections in NSW could go the same way.
  14. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    I did not mean to be insensitive towards the many people who are doing it hard. I do think, though, that unless you live in Melbourne or Mitchell Shire it would be difficult to imagine just what our life is like right now. It is not all bad - there are upsides of spending more time at home, walking our local streets, visiting parks, etc. - but it is deeply weird and the uncertainty about how long it will last is very unsettling. Many of us are dreading a return to CBD working.
  15. Quinkla

    Is Dan Andrews doing the right thing?

    But it sounds like normal within WA. That sounds pretty attractive right now if you're sitting where I am and I cannot even travel into the next suburb to go to the shops, or sit in the same room as my family. Victoria couldn't squish the virus last time and I have to say things don't look great right now either. A single family connected with the Butchers in Chadstone Shopping Centre decided to ignore the restrictions, met up as a group from across Melbourne, and now they are passing the virus into their own communities. Twenty four active cases so far across multiple suburbs and rising. One active case and a super spreading event has the capability to take us all down - and that's nothing to do with Daniel Andrews.
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