clara111 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 To anyone coming to Australia without a job, don't come delay your migration. Australia is not working every state is down, I've applied for over 200 jobs, you don't get a call, you don't get a email you get nothing it all goes straight in the bin. we've been here 8 months, spent $35,000 dollars and running at a loss of $1500 a month. i would advise anyone coming here without a job, DON'T, wait till the last minute before you activate your visa, there isn't any work here, were in Brisbane, government cuts cuts cuts and believe me, it's far far worse than anything in the UK. im a senior project manager, worked on the Olympics can't get a thing, lucky the wife has a job otherwise we would gone back at Xmas. believe me guys, stay where you are Austarlia is not working for thousands of expats, many going back. ive applied for over 1,000 jobs now and I get what your saying but we are told to lower expectations even though most of the jobs are way below my husbands expertise,but maybe by lowering yours by applying for more simplistic jobs you may have more luck,were not over there yet but many have said once we get there pop in and have a coffee but while we're here they won't do anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Its not just QLD either. In my sector in mining, you have to be mad to come out now. Far more jobs available in the UK and for the first time, salaries are dropping sharply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Incoming :biglaugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 To anyone coming to Australia without a job, don't come delay your migration. Australia is not working every state is down, I've applied for over 200 jobs, you don't get a call, you don't get a email you get nothing it all goes straight in the bin. we've been here 8 months, spent $35,000 dollars and running at a loss of $1500 a month. i would advise anyone coming here without a job, DON'T, wait till the last minute before you activate your visa, there isn't any work here, were in Brisbane, government cuts cuts cuts and believe me, it's far far worse than anything in the UK. im a senior project manager, worked on the Olympics can't get a thing, lucky the wife has a job otherwise we would gone back at Xmas. believe me guys, stay where you are Austarlia is not working for thousands of expats, many going back. Try interstate before you give up. A lot of people have trouble in one state and success in another. You might have to flip burgers for a bit till you land on your feet !! Good luck with your endeavours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PontePom Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I guess it'll depend on what job and experience etc Don't give up and hopefully it'll work out for you I guess we'd have to be in your shoes to understand your problems with a job Which we are not so I'll just wish you well and good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidden Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 ive applied for over 1,000 jobs now and I get what your saying but we are told to lower expectations even though most of the jobs are way below my husbands expertise,but maybe by lowering yours by applying for more simplistic jobs you may have more luck,were not over there yet but many have said once we get there pop in and have a coffee but while we're here they won't do anything Sorry to sound negative, but if I had applied for over 1000 positions and had no success, I would be questioning my CV, cover letter and almost everything else. It is easy to fire CV's off like a loose canon, but to tailor them strategically for a position will probably work better. Also think of the time this has taken - like you said it maybe because you are not in Oz. Think of it as role reversal If you had your own business and had an opening to fill, would you consider someone from Australia who has the rights to live in the UK or would you choose a local person who may not be as good on paper but you will get to see them in person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bromney Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Freytruck - I can sympathize but rather than giving up I think you should try Sydney or Melbourne if you are able to. I've been here 2 months and while January was complete dead February has been far more positive. I've now got 2 offers to juggle, I work in IT. Like another has said apply directly and best of luck. By the way, there is a simple reason agencies aren't returning your calls, it's more than likely they don't have jobs available despite what they advertise. Chortlepuss - From previous posts I know you've been struggling in the IT market, I would again encourage you to try Sydney or Melbourne if you are able to. The job market is OK, it's not flush with jobs but if you have right skillset it's still possible to find positions. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish.01 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Finding a job round Brisbane has been a problem on and off since we came in the early 1970s. Lots of people want to live up there because of the marvellous beaches but it is only a smallish city with a small population. The Gold Coast has lots of unemployed youngsters and always has had. With respect, I don't agree with this. Brisbane suburbs often have unemployment levels similar to Melbourne suburbs...and Brisbane is quite a large city by Australian standards and has barely no beaches. The Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast fit your profile of being smaller cities, with people attracted by beaches and traditionally higher unemployment...but they are and have always been significantly different in demographics to Brisbane though I can see why you might mix them up at a distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armitchell Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 To anyone coming to Australia without a job, don't come delay your migration. Australia is not working every state is down, I've applied for over 200 jobs, you don't get a call, you don't get a email you get nothing it all goes straight in the bin. we've been here 8 months, spent $35,000 dollars and running at a loss of $1500 a month. i would advise anyone coming here without a job, DON'T, wait till the last minute before you activate your visa, there isn't any work here, were in Brisbane, government cuts cuts cuts and believe me, it's far far worse than anything in the UK. im a senior project manager, worked on the Olympics can't get a thing, lucky the wife has a job otherwise we would gone back at Xmas. believe me guys, stay where you are Austarlia is not working for thousands of expats, many going back. exactly but nobody in UK believes me................................It's not only recently though I have found it to be like this most of the time I have been in Oz around 11 yrs if you are originally from UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armitchell Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Freytruck - I can sympathize but rather than giving up I think you should try Sydney or Melbourne if you are able to. I've been here 2 months and while January was complete dead February has been far more positive. I've now got 2 offers to juggle, I work in IT. Like another has said apply directly and best of luck. By the way, there is a simple reason agencies aren't returning your calls, it's more than likely they don't have jobs available despite what they advertise. Chortlepuss - From previous posts I know you've been struggling in the IT market, I would again encourage you to try Sydney or Melbourne if you are able to. The job market is OK, it's not flush with jobs but if you have right skillset it's still possible to find positions. Good luck! Not true - depends what sector you work in I have found if you work in I.T it is fairly easier to score work but if you work in construction much much harder especially for plumbers and electricians as for melbourne had 11 yrs experience always been difficult to get work here in this city - Sydney could be easier maybe but not always the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armitchell Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I think this is a fair post. It is so common to hear lots of positives (especially from friends and family who are there) until you get there and you find it's a dead market. That happened to us in 2002 - and is part of the reason we are still in the UK. You would be very foolish to give up a job in the UK to go looking for one in Oz. If you have an offer from Oz - then that makes sense. If you are out of work in the UK, then it probably doesn't matter which country you look for work in. But we are in troubled times, so I'd hold onto any security you have while you can. Exactly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1875HFC Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Do you think the economy and market is the same for backpackers looking to come to Oz for a year on a WHV looking for restaurant jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 exactly but nobody in UK believes me................................It's not only recently though I have found it to be like this most of the time I have been in Oz around 11 yrs if you are originally from UK. Understandably people in the UK dont want to hear negatives, they want to hear that jobs are plentiful, houses are cheap and the sun shines every day. This is why reality hits some people very hard indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Do you think the economy and market is the same for backpackers looking to come to Oz for a year on a WHV looking for restaurant jobs? It is much harder in the present economy to get work BUT there will always be that type of temp work available, there will just be more competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John2012 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Because you struggle for work does not mean thats a reflection on australia. Im in the employment sector and we cant get enough quality candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbing with passion Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 To anyone coming to Australia without a job, don't come delay your migration. Australia is not working every state is down, I've applied for over 200 jobs, you don't get a call, you don't get a email you get nothing it all goes straight in the bin. we've been here 8 months, spent $35,000 dollars and running at a loss of $1500 a month. i would advise anyone coming here without a job, DON'T, wait till the last minute before you activate your visa, there isn't any work here, were in Brisbane, government cuts cuts cuts and believe me, it's far far worse than anything in the UK. im a senior project manager, worked on the Olympics can't get a thing, lucky the wife has a job otherwise we would gone back at Xmas. believe me guys, stay where you are Austarlia is not working for thousands of expats, many going back. Funny that! To warn people not to come to Australia because you've been so unlucky isn't very cool. I too worked on the Olympic Stadium in London for 2 years (2009-2010) and arrived in Perth, Australia in February 2012 and I landed a job on my 3rd day. I'm currently working in my 3rd job (each one being an onwards and upwards stepping stone). I see loads of work advertised. A year later and we find we have a much much better lifestyle here in Australia, we feel more at home and we have saved up more money than what we arrived with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest76088 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 This is an anecdotal thread about an individual that "had difficulty so you will too". This can equally be countered by the silent majority that have a job quite happily and see no reason to rant about it. I think it is a bit over the top to issue stay-in-your-homes warnings, so consider the post for what it is: one person's unfortunate experience which should not by itself infer complete meltdown. BigD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imo2oz Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Myself, OH, and family are planning on moving to Brisbane in May. My OH is a design engineer, uses solid works, autoCAD etc, designs the interiors of caravans in the UK. He has been applying for jobs off seek, but no luck yet so we have decided to make the move, so we are more available for direct contact and some 'cold-calling' to try and get something. I know this is a risky strategy, but our PR visa expires in July 2013, so it's kind of now or never. I am doing care work in the Uk at the moment and plan to do the same kind of thing when we initially get there. Does anyone have any opinions on the job market in Brisbane for either of these fields?? I am very concerned that we will struggle when we get there, although both of us would willingly turn our hand to anything just to keep us afloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter bull Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Well after a 2 years we've been here 8 months applied for over 200 jobs, with covering letter and 3email returns telling me I don't have Queensland experience, so I can work on an Olympic program of works in London, senior project manager working on millions of pounds worth of projects yet I can't build a shed at the end of the garden in Australia. i would say to anyone coming to Australia, delay it, don't come. Australia is not working at all. It looks after it's own 1st and there are lots of ozzies out of work they will come 1st, then the expats. ONLY COME IF YOU HAVE A JOB. its not the dream anymore, it's not paradise anymore as it once was, there isn't any work, recruitment guys don't get back to you your totally in the dark, we've spent $35,000 dollars in 8 months, the wife is working otherwise we would be gone by now.. be warned don't come without a job, Australia is not working!,,,,,,,, Try retrailing in something dirrerent, ive applied for jobs from england and had possitive responses to all :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Survivor Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Wow that's sensationalism at it's best, don't come to Australia, batton down the hatches, blimey! I think that's a bit of a personalised interpretation of Aus's job market! For those tearing up their visa application forms, or exploring alternative countries to emmigrate to; hold your horses....... My wife and I moved out to Aus in August 2011, both had jobs in London, decently enough paid. Gave them up as it felt like the UK had gone to the dogs, and came out here and within 3 months (it only took her 1 1/2 months) both had not just jobs, but good well paid jobs. 1 1/2 years later, we've got some decent savings, live 1 minute 42 seconds from the beach, and when I look outside the grass seems that much greener (I speak metaphorically of course in this weather!):biggrin: So although I sympathise with those that have found this move tough, it's important to make it clear that for every bad story there's a good one. Is it smart to come out without jobs, possibly not, does that mean you shouldn't do it, no not at all. Each to their own. The only caveat I would add to that, is obviously if you have dependants, then no you don't come out without jobs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake max Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 i don't agree with your post either, I didn't double deal on purpose, Internet problem!!!! Didn't ask you to respond come to think of it why did you read it the subject box should of told you enough...at least you read my post twice must be good You coming in to hard and fast my freind break your posts into smaller amount more factual information would help also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake max Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 This is an anecdotal thread about an individual that "had difficulty so you will too". This can equally be countered by the silent majority that have a job quite happily and see no reason to rant about it. I think it is a bit over the top to issue stay-in-your-homes warnings, so consider the post for what it is: one person's unfortunate experience which should not by itself infer complete meltdown. BigD Your bang on big D you have to experience the journey for yourself like anything in life good or bad at the end of the day try if it does not work go back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Haythem Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Iim waiting for my visa to move to adelaide soon, I didnt got a job yet and this post made me really scared now, is it the same for jobs in adelaide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dredg97 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I arrived in Perth two weeks ago and I can't say I'm struggling, since I had 3 interviews and for several other applications I'm progressing to further stages, but it's taking far more time than I expected. I decided to come alone first, wife and babies at home, I was able to get a 6 months unpaid leave from my employer so that's the time I've given myself. If I'll secure a job by the end of July...fine, otherwise I will go back to Europe to my normal life. My wife will leave her job at home only once I will have secured one here in Australia, we won't transfer our things and ship our dog without a job here. It's a conservative and cautelative approach, but I can't afford to relocate here, leaving two good jobs and running the risk to slowly loose everything. I just need to do anything in my possibilities to secure a job now that I'm here with permanent residency and immediate availability... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incata Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 My husband came out at the end of December 2012 to sort house, car and job. He registered with one recruitment agency, was put forward for one job, which he got. He started 4 weeks later. We took a chance with no jobs to come to, but it was a calculated risk. The feedback we got on our specialist areas was that we needed to be here, on the ground in order to be able to secure work. Certainly in my husbands case, that was the situation. I have not got work yet but am not too worried. Settling the children into nurseries and kindy has been challenging and we have felt it is important to do that and get it right, so that when I do get work they are both settled and happy. It's taken three weeks to get the youngest to the point that he proudly puts on his rucksack and marches into nursery, but it is worth it as he is happy and I am happy that he is being well looked after. The 4 year old is a little more of a challenger and sobs loudly at being left but 2 minutes after we have left, is playing happily (as we have discretely sneaked peaks when he thinks we have gone). Now they are sorted I am feeling happier about going full tilt for jobs and I am hoping that something will come along relatively soon, but I am not stressing about it. I am more stressed about needing to move money across from the UK to fund a house purchase and the exchange rate currently being at a 7 month low. I am starting a prayer group to make it go up again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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