ali Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, kimboslice said: Finally made it to Australia. It’s been a long and emotional journey but worth the wait. We are on day 8 of our quarantine, very lucky with the hotel, balcony overlooking the Brisbane river. Food not the best but hey ho it’s only for 2 weeks and could do with losing weight. Grandchildren FaceTimeing everyday, that’s what it’s all about. Would like to thank everyone on pio for all the advice along the journey, it’s been over 5 years and couldn’t have done it without you all. Stay in there and your turn will come. Mark What lovely news - congratulations and so glad that our community eased the wait !!. Enjoy your reunion with the family when quarantine ends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusieRoo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 5 hours ago, kimboslice said: Finally made it to Australia. It’s been a long and emotional journey but worth the wait. We are on day 8 of our quarantine, very lucky with the hotel, balcony overlooking the Brisbane river. Food not the best but hey ho it’s only for 2 weeks and could do with losing weight. Grandchildren FaceTimeing everyday, that’s what it’s all about. Would like to thank everyone on pio for all the advice along the journey, it’s been over 5 years and couldn’t have done it without you all. Stay in there and your turn will come. Mark Good to hear you made it to Qld and I’m very envious of your balcony and view. I’m on day 13 down in Melbourne (release day tomorrow) and husband is just starting his solitarily confinement in Sydney. This forum has also been my lifeline for the last five years and a big thank you to everyone. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BargeUK Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 On 15/06/2021 at 19:21, LBee said: My husband and I are planning travelling at the end of Sept, we got visa granted November 2020. Any information would be great. If there's any chance you can get on an earlier flight then I would do. The news today has been about the state Premiers wanting to reduce the international traveller caps by up to 80% until either the new quarantine facilities have been built or around 80% of the population has been fully vaccinated (or both of those things have happened). At the moment I think the figure for both doses is around 4% so that's certainly not going to be any time soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBee Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 @BargeUK we have booked 1st class flights for end September, unlikely we could go sooner, house to sell etc - will also have to see how this would affect our visa entry date, will need to get some legal advise on where we stand. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BargeUK Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 19 hours ago, LBee said: @BargeUK we have booked 1st class flights for end September, unlikely we could go sooner, house to sell etc - will also have to see how this would affect our visa entry date, will need to get some legal advise on where we stand. Thanks I'll keep everything crossed for you that it all works out. You've given yourselves the best possible chance by going first class and presumably you're both fully vaccinated by now. We got our visas the same day as you and we were originally booked for June but we got lucky with a really quick house sale and moved our flights forwards to April. The first 2 we booked were cancelled but we managed to get a flight at the beginning of May so only a 9 day delay. I won't pretend it was an easy time but it was worth the stress in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBee Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Thanks @BargeUK and yes we both are fully vaccinated, property seems to be selling extremely well and quickly in our area. We are waiting for a copy of a completion certificate (one we cannot find in the mounds of paperwork), but the council is horrendously slow are getting a copy, due to they have to get the file out of archives, once we have this house can go up for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh1993 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 If Anyone know please tell me 143 visa holder(with dependent) is allow to travel Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
143mag Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Singh1993 said: If Anyone know please tell me 143 visa holder(with dependent) is allow to travel Australia Have you received your visa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash123 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 On 14/06/2021 at 18:12, tonys said: Hi @Sash123 I had a call from the department last week asking for the 2nd VAC in addition to the email. Speaking with the representative they indicated new approvals would be forthcoming in the first few weeks of July as all places for this 2020-2021 year have been fulfilled. Let's hope for some good news next month Thanks Tonys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip1 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Singh1993 said: If Anyone know please tell me 143 visa holder(with dependent) is allow to travel Australia If the dependant also has PR then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess2201 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Hello, i have applied visa 173 since June 2016 but never heard anything since then. Is that normal? Dows anyone apply the same time and still waiting? regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH27 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Jess2201 said: Hello, i have applied visa 173 since June 2016 but never heard anything since then. Is that normal? Dows anyone apply the same time and still waiting? regards It’s in the same queue as 143 and that queue is dealt with in strict date order. They have been granting visas for some May 2016 applications but met the caps a while ago so couldn’t issue any more. The new financial year started today so they will start granting visas again. You may hear something soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJM22 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 The Contributory Parent 143 Visa was originally introduced to fast track permanent residency in Australia for parents to be reunited with children already resident in Australia in exchange for a two instalments totalling AUD 47825 per person. Originally based on the annual cap of 7500 Contributory Parent 143 Visa places per annum and the lower number of applications in the queue processing time and grant of this visa would normally have been within 2 to 2.5 years of the application being made. Unfortunately the number of applications for this visa have increased over the years resulting in a greater number of applications in the queue at the end of each migration year. In addition to this the annual cap of Contributory Parent 143 Visa places to be granted each year has fallen from a high of 7500 places in 2009/2010 to 3600 in 2020/21 and 2021/2022 migration years which further extends the time for the visa to be granted. The delays are further compounded due to the fact that since 2016/2017 migration year onwards the number of visas granted in a migration year have been less than the annual cap whereas prior to this visas granted always matched the annual cap. To put this into perspective as of 30th October 2020 49688 Contributory Parent 143 Visas were outstanding to be processed for visa applications made between June 2016 and September 2020. Based on a visa application being made in September 2020 with a queue of 49688 with an annual cap of 3600 to be granted you would be looking at nearly 13.8 years from application being made to visa being granted. (Maybe slightly less if some applications were withdrawn or not approved) . This really is at all odds for applying for Contributory Parent 143 Visa in the first place at a high cost of AUD 47825 per person to be able to gain fast track permanent residency in Australia. The Australian government really need to address this issue and close off any new Contributory Parent 143 Visa applications and commit clearing the current backlog within 2-3 years and introduce legislation after this where new applications made are cleared within 12-24 months of application being made as it is unfair to charge such a high cost for the Contributory Parent 143 Visa and expect people to wait so long to be reunited with their children and grandchildren. Outstanding Contributory Parent Visa applications and outstanding Non Contributory Parent Visa applications at the end of each migratory year used to be reported in the annual report for each migration year published by the government at https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/ however since migration years 2018/2019 and 2019/2020 they have not provided this detail and now only report the total number of Parent Visa applications outstanding to remove focus that the outstanding queue for Contributory Parent 143 Visa applications is becoming larger year on year. The links for various information are shown at the end of this message. https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2021L00511 https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2019L01496 https://www.gm-parent-visas.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FA-201000222-R1-document-released-1.pdf https://www.gm-parent-visas.com/about-us/blog/ https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-statistics/statistics/visa-statistics/live/migration-program https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2019-20.pdf https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2018-19.pdf https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2017-18.pdf https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2016-17.pdf https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/2015-16-migration-programme-report.pdf https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/2014-15-Migration-Programme-Report.pdf https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-programme-2013-14.pdf https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2012-13.pdf https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2011-12.pdf https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2010-11.pdf https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2009-10.pdf https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/4D9CDCC301C64613A3A5CB3E44308D8B.ashx 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess2201 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 5 hours ago, LindaH27 said: It’s in the same queue as 143 and that queue is dealt with in strict date order. They have been granting visas for some May 2016 applications but met the caps a while ago so couldn’t issue any more. The new financial year started today so they will start granting visas again. You may hear something soon. Thank you so much for your reply. They never emailed or advised the queue date etc so supposed to be the date I applied for 173? Finger crossed it is my turn soon. Its been 5 years. I am in Australia at the moment with tourist visa expire in 30 days. So should I wait for that visa or apply for extension of my tourist vísa? furthermore, i need to apply for 143 and will the wait same as 173, another 5 years? I can’t remember after applying 143 do I have right to stay in Australia? i am so glad i finally found this group so at least I know what is going on!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH27 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jess2201 said: Thank you so much for your reply. They never emailed or advised the queue date etc so supposed to be the date I applied for 173? Finger crossed it is my turn soon. Its been 5 years. I am in Australia at the moment with tourist visa expire in 30 days. So should I wait for that visa or apply for extension of my tourist vísa? furthermore, i need to apply for 143 and will the wait same as 173, another 5 years? I can’t remember after applying 143 do I have right to stay in Australia? i am so glad i finally found this group so at least I know what is going on!!! Applications before 1june 2018 have application date as queue date. You just get an acknowledgment that’s all. I think you will have to re apply for another visitor visa as it takes months to process once they start asking for more documents etc. Once you have been granted 173 you can apply for 143 and these seem to be granted fairly quickly at present. Given that planes are leaving Australia and there’s no barrier for temporary visa holder to leave now they may not grant another visitor visa - I don’t know. You probably need to ask an agent. Grant of 173 means you can stay for two years so you need to apply for 143. If you are offshore when 173 is granted you cannot use it to enter Australia yet as it is classed as a temporary visa but you can apply straightaway after it’s granted for 143. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess2201 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 6 hours ago, LindaH27 said: Applications before 1june 2018 have application date as queue date. You just get an acknowledgment that’s all. I think you will have to re apply for another visitor visa as it takes months to process once they start asking for more documents etc. Once you have been granted 173 you can apply for 143 and these seem to be granted fairly quickly at present. Given that planes are leaving Australia and there’s no barrier for temporary visa holder to leave now they may not grant another visitor visa - I don’t know. You probably need to ask an agent. Grant of 173 means you can stay for two years so you need to apply for 143. If you are offshore when 173 is granted you cannot use it to enter Australia yet as it is classed as a temporary visa but you can apply straightaway after it’s granted for 143. So you mean i can apply for 143 once i have 173. 143 can apply onshore or offshore. But i will get bridging visa to stay in Australia while waiting for the decision of 143? and how long does it roughly take since immigration contacts you regarding the processing of 173 until you finally get visa 173 if you know please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH27 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Yes as soon as you are granted 173 apply for 143. You won’t need a bridging visa as 173 allows to to stay in Australia for 2 years so if you apply straightaway after grant of 173 you will be ok. No idea how long to process 173 but it’s been taking a few months from being approached for more documents etc from reading previous posts. Really think you will have to apply for another visitor visa if yours runs out in 30 days!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A&J Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 @AJM22 Excellent research. Thanks for the detail. Do you have any further insight into how things might develop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillieB Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 @AJM22 Very impressed with your research. Thank you for posting. I find the shortfall on grant of available visas since 16/17 concerning. I wonder why this is? Maybe staff shortages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MillieB said: @AJM22 Very impressed with your research. Thank you for posting. I find the shortfall on grant of available visas since 16/17 concerning. I wonder why this is? Maybe staff shortages? It is probably deliberate. As you know, the high fee for the Contributory Parent Visa is meant to compensate the government for the cost of medical care and pension entitlements for visa holders once they are living in Australia. Around 2016/17 the government did research and discovered that the visa fee falls thousands of dollars short of covering those costs. In other words, parent visa holders cost the government far too much money, so they do not want to award those visas. To close down the visas would require legislation and that is too hard (they tried already with the 804 and failed), so they just do a go-slow instead. The other alternative is to increase the fee so it actually covers the costs to the government, but that would probably make it completely unaffordable (I believe it would have to double or more). Edited July 3, 2021 by Marisawright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru81 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Hi, I have applied for 143 in Aug 2016. My passport has expired and I have renewed it recently. Am I suppose to send a copy of the new passport to immigration? If yes, what forms do I need to fill and send copies along with it? TIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH27 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Marisawright said: It is probably deliberate. As you know, the high fee for the Contributory Parent Visa is meant to compensate the government for the cost of medical care and pension entitlements for visa holders once they are living in Australia. Around 2016/17 the government did research and discovered that the visa fee falls thousands of dollars short of covering those costs. In other words, parent visa holders cost the government far too much money, so they do not want to award those visas. To close down the visas would require legislation and that is too hard (they tried already with the 804 and failed), so they just do a go-slow instead. The other alternative is to increase the fee so it actually covers the costs to the government, but that would probably make it completely unaffordable (I believe it would have to double or more). Agreed but also that review in 2016 recommended 804 be abolished and the charges for 143 greatly increased - this led to huge numbers deciding to apply for 143 in May/June 2017 because people were worried that there would be big changes in the new financial year from 1st July 2017. 9000 applied in those two months alone - probably spooked the govt!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonys Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Quick update.... we received our permanent visa notifications on Friday finally!! Been a long and windy road to get here, but very thankful to have done so. Sequence of events roughly: Applied April 2016 AOS/Medicals Feb 2020 VAC2 request June 2021 Visa Granted July 2022 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH27 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, tonys said: Quick update.... we received our permanent visa notifications on Friday finally!! Been a long and windy road to get here, but very thankful to have done so. Sequence of events roughly: Applied April 2016 AOS/Medicals Feb 2020 VAC2 request June 2021 Visa Granted July 2022 Congratulations - finally !! Nearly over. One last battle ahead now - finding a flight (getting rare and expensive apparently ) and surviving quarantine !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh1993 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 9 hours ago, tonys said: Quick update.... we received our permanent visa notifications on Friday finally!! Been a long and windy road to get here, but very thankful to have done so. Sequence of events roughly: Applied April 2016 AOS/Medicals Feb 2020 VAC2 request June 2021 Visa Granted July 2022 Congratulations but your type 2022 by mistake We are same 2nd vac req and paid on June 2021 but still waiting for visa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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