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And do you have the figures of the many that we haven’t officially granted asylum to but are still here, whether on the black market or legally waiting for many years for appeals to go through. When their application is declined, they don’t leave the country. They remain legally for as long as it takes to appeal and finally win. Those that still don’t win and that have exhausted all avenues disappear into the black market. In the years these people are waiting for appeals, they have the freedom of the country so they’re not locked up, they are in paid for accommodation and that’s why it’s easy for them to disappear when their numbers finally up. The percentage of those that get here and are deported is low. The government present the figures above as those who’s application failed and people think that means they’ve removed them from the country. It probably keeps many a bit happier but they are false numbers by a long stretch.

I’m not sure what you are saying when you say the U.K. has control, I have control and why don’t I stop it. Here’s the thing. The U.K. clearly doesn’t have control over the situation, I am just one person who clearly doesn’t have any control over the situation and as I said, if I could stop it I would, as would millions of others in this country. You even finish with do something about it that is going to stop it with the control I took back. I am genuinely confused over your comments. I am just one, small women. How on earth am I going to stop it with some control I have. Honestly, I’m not being sarcastic, the confusion is real.

If it’s cancelled by the airline and they can’t offer you an alternative within a short timeframe (not exactly sure but it’s something like a few days) then they have to refund you if that’s what you want as they’ve withdrawn the service you paid for. Be aware though that in these current times they have so many cases to deal with it’s taking forever. To give you an idea, I had a flight booked to Australia at the end of March which was cancelled. I was refunded by the airline but it took a long time, my refund came back three days ago! It didn’t bother me, I knew I’d get it eventually but that may be a problem if you need the money to book another flight. Nothing you can do about it though. If you booked with a credit card you can try and claim it back from them but they are taking just as long. That was my plan B and I waited to see who managed it first and it was the airline. I did get £50 from my credit card provider though as a gesture of goodwill as my claim was taking so long which was nice. Plan C was my travel insurance but that’s even harder as they only tend to pay out on non recoverable costs and cancelled flights are recoverable.

Another 120 today. Still, it’s the least we can do Expect they’ll be some on here inviting them round for tea. I’ll give it a miss though.

Tragic surely.

I never used those words or said anything like that. I quoted that in response to you saying that. I said they were in luxury hotels and that many homegrown homeless people were sleeping on the streets.

We aren’t talking about Turkey. The U.K. has had thousands of economic migrants as you put it and also thousands of genuine refugees. We will continue to get thousands, this won’t stop until a clear message is sent that you’ll likely not be staying if you turn up that way. We’ve all seen the pictures of them arriving. I wouldn’t use the phase ‘a few’ to describe the high number that have clearly come from Africa. As a tax payer of more years than I care to remember, sucking it up isn’t an option for me, I’m fed up of it.

Your definition of a few is......

And what you said was wrong. It’s not a few, it’s many thousands. Be assured, if I could do something about it I would but I, just like most are powerless and it continues.

I don’t think we are talking about the effect of kicking a few immigrants out onto the street will make. Neither are we talking about a few economic migrants taking advantage. We are talking about thousands of people that have illegally turned up on our shores and are housed and cared for at great expense. Many are from African countries, with plenty of money in their pockets for the expensive journey and look anything but starved. Can you let me know what problems of theirs we created and what bombs we made that had such an effect on these African men. Are you able to explain why women and children are largely unaffected by these issues we created as these young, fit men seem to just leave them all behind. Come on be honest, they are all just trying their luck at a better life, nothing to do with the cost of bombs. Many here are just fed up with it, it’s getting worse and most see them for what they are. The guy BTD put a post up about that originally came from Syria. I touched upon him making an unnecessary long journey to get here but that seems irrelevant to many even though it’s not. It read like he was some hero yet he got to the U.K. using a fake passport. He fraudulently entered our country and got to stay and now lives in a London flat. We need to be more honest as to why they come here and it’s not because we caused them all problems and made bombs, it’s because they all know they get more in the U.K. than they do in other countries.

No way do 56% get deported. I’d be very interested to see where you got that figure from. Very few get deported. Many get refused at the first hurdle and years of appeals follow. After they’ve been here a certain amount of time they just get to legally stay or disappear into the black market as they are not locked up when on appeal. I haven’t just checked but from memory I’m sure it is about 4 or 5% that actually get deported.

You and Toots could have past each other in the street, what a small world.

Is that not what I put? Nothing wrong with me giving an opinion on the things you were unhappy about (as others have done too) as that is what helped me answer your question. I just felt that in the scheme of things there was little harm done. I think right now more than ever, it’s important to show kindness to others.

Do you ever do the household shop. If you go into the supermarket and add things onto your trolley, do you wear gloves? And when you fill the car up/open doors? If not then you are touching items that are no different from the parcel you got. Someone’s put that on the shop shelf and so on. I am very careful about these things but here’s my take on what you’ve mentioned. Gloves can often be worse because if he wore them and kept them on for hours, his hands are in a worse state than if he just used his hands and sanitised every time he gets in his van or even every hour or so. People with gloves on don’t sanitise their gloves but they are likely to sanitise their hands. As for the masks. In the U.K. it’s not compulsory to wear them outside and delivery drivers tend to ring your bell, leave the parcel on your doorstep and stand well back until you’ve answered. I realise in Melbourne they need to be worn outside right now so he is wrong not to. That said, if he left the parcel and stood well clear of you/your doorstep then the risk is so minimal. If you worked an eight/ten hour day and had to wear one all that time you would know how hard that is. I’m against sloppy hygiene but I personally wouldn’t shop him. If I knew someone was having a 100 person house party I’d act but he’s just a guy trying to hold a job down, I’d cut him some slack. In answer to your question, Whilst you’re right to be aware and concerned, maybe you’re being a tad grumpy.

Another 120 arrived by boat today