Skillselect ENS 186 Timeline

[Marisawright]

1 hour ago, Lgorhollism said:

The rule is apply on time you apply, if you already applied then you follow old rule. Its grandfathering law.

Grandfathering does not always apply when they change the rules.  It all depends how the government feels at the time.

[Lgorhollism]

13 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

Grandfathering does not always apply when they change the rules.  It all depends how the government feels at the time.

Thank for info

[Laura Zorzi]

8 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Grandfathering does not always apply when they change the rules.  It all depends how the government feels at the time.

They did apply for the 457s lodged before 18 April 2017, that is that these visa applicants/holders are able to proceed with PR even if the occupation is on the STSOL (up until March 2022). However, they were granted a 2 year visa (instead of 4 years as per the occupations on the MLTSSL)

[XoXo11]

5 hours ago, Laura Zorzi said:

They did apply for the 457s lodged before 18 April 2017, that is that these visa applicants/holders are able to proceed with PR even if the occupation is on the STSOL (up until March 2022). However, they were granted a 2 year visa (instead of 4 years as per the occupations on the MLTSSL)

Hi Laura

can you also advice if AAT 186 Remittals are given a priority in terms of finalizing the visa ?

won the case in April , Nomination approved but still awaiting visa from last 4 months 

[Laura Zorzi]

On 23/08/2020 at 01:10, XoXo11 said:

Hi Laura

can you also advice if AAT 186 Remittals are given a priority in terms of finalizing the visa ?

won the case in April , Nomination approved but still awaiting visa from last 4 months 

You may ask priority process to the AAT explaining your reasons and providing supporting evidence.

[jo3lthakid]

Visa grant today folks good luck all

[Horus]

Hi All,

I have been a silent reader for quite some time now. I was intrigued by the question asked by a user regarding the work experience. 
 

My story is that I have 4.5 years of full-time work experience in one of the IT fields. I did my ACS and it came as suitable for migration under ANZSCO code but they took 4 years out of my work experience. I am left with 4 months of “valid experience” which is unfair honestly. My company nominated me for visa 186 and I have applied for the same in July.  Does anyone know that how my work experience will be counted in this situation? Will it impede in getting my permanent residency. 
 

P.S. - I have attached all the work experience related documents  like payslips, tax statements, bank account statements and employment reference letters. I have also talked to a registered MARA agent and he didn’t sound confident to me. Any help is much appreciated. 
 

[jo3lthakid]

17 minutes ago, jo3lthakid said:

Visa grant today folks good luck all

All done without a lawyer or migration agent aswell. Lawyer quoted $14000completed myself for around $7000 give or take

[Adam B]

30 minutes ago, Horus said:

Hi All,

I have been a silent reader for quite some time now. I was intrigued by the question asked by a user regarding the work experience. 
 

My story is that I have 4.5 years of full-time work experience in one of the IT fields. I did my ACS and it came as suitable for migration under ANZSCO code but they took 4 years out of my work experience. I am left with 4 months of “valid experience” which is unfair honestly. My company nominated me for visa 186 and I have applied for the same in July.  Does anyone know that how my work experience will be counted in this situation? Will it impede in getting my permanent residency. 
 

P.S. - I have attached all the work experience related documents  like payslips, tax statements, bank account statements and employment reference letters. I have also talked to a registered MARA agent and he didn’t sound confident to me. Any help is much appreciated. 
 

Hi Horus,

AFAIK, if you are on 186 Direct Entry you need to have additional 3 years experience.

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skills-assessment

"You must also have been employed in the occupation full-time for at least 3 years, at the level of skill required for the occupation."

It is good to get opinion from a different MARA agent, but I double checked that with my and they confirmed what I wrote above.

 

 

 

[Dcdasilva1]

53 minutes ago, jo3lthakid said:

Visa grant today folks good luck all

Congrats man 

Do you know where was Your case ? Nsw office ?

I’m still waiting for an answer.

[AppleTheFruit]

I still didn't get chance to book a medical. This endless lock down is a real kill.

I haven't been using my voice for 3 days strait. 

Stranded in home for 6 months, not going anywhere anytime soon.

Edited August 24, 2020 by AppleTheFruit

[ab3nash]

46 minutes ago, Horus said:

Hi All,

I have been a silent reader for quite some time now. I was intrigued by the question asked by a user regarding the work experience. 
 

My story is that I have 4.5 years of full-time work experience in one of the IT fields. I did my ACS and it came as suitable for migration under ANZSCO code but they took 4 years out of my work experience. I am left with 4 months of “valid experience” which is unfair honestly. My company nominated me for visa 186 and I have applied for the same in July.  Does anyone know that how my work experience will be counted in this situation? Will it impede in getting my permanent residency. 
 

P.S. - I have attached all the work experience related documents  like payslips, tax statements, bank account statements and employment reference letters. I have also talked to a registered MARA agent and he didn’t sound confident to me. Any help is much appreciated. 
 

Same for me as well. I have close to 4 years of relevant work experience but ACS took 2 years out of that for Skills Assessment. I talked to an agent and they said that only the experience after Skill Requirement Met Date counts which leaves me with a little less than 2 years of experience.

In the requirement for 186 visa, DOHA has written "have at least 3 years relevant work experience, unless you are exempt" which is a bit vague.

I am wondering if anyone else in our situation has applied for 186 visa and if they can share their experience.

[Horus]

1 minute ago, ab3nash said:

Same for me as well. I have close to 4 years of relevant work experience but ACS took 2 years out of that for Skills Assessment. I talked to an agent and they said that only the experience after Skill Requirement Met Date counts which leaves me with a little less than 2 years of experience.

In the requirement for 186 visa, DOHA has written "have at least 3 years relevant work experience, unless you are exempt" which is a bit vague.

I am wondering if anyone else in our situation has applied for 186 visa and if they can share their experience.

Well it states “have a 3 years relevant work experience” which I have according to the documents provided by my previous companies but ACS has some different opinion altogether. Strange thing is my company’s “migration specialist” said that it’ll be fine. Wondering if I can get any other opinion. 
 

p.s I have applied for the visa and done my medicals. 

[Horus]

19 minutes ago, Adam B said:

Hi Horus,

AFAIK, if you are on 186 Direct Entry you need to have additional 3 years experience.

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skills-assessment

"You must also have been employed in the occupation full-time for at least 3 years, at the level of skill required for the occupation."

It is good to get opinion from a different MARA agent, but I double checked that with my and they confirmed what I wrote above.

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing that, I was aware of that website which states “3 years relevant experience” but it doesn’t say that experience has to be approved by ACS.

[ab3nash]

Just now, Horus said:

Well it states “have a 3 years relevant work experience” which I have according to the documents provided by my previous companies but ACS has some different opinion altogether. Strange thing is my company’s “migration specialist” said that it’ll be fine. Wondering if I can get any other opinion. 
 

p.s I have applied for the visa and done my medicals. 

Hi Horus,

Please do update here if you find more concrete information or get any update on your application. 

[Horus]

8 minutes ago, ab3nash said:

Hi Horus,

Please do update here if you find more concrete information or get any update on your application. 

Sure, I will. Please share any information that you get. I am wondering if there are any MARA agents here that can reply to our query.

 

[AmberD.]

Hi, I received S56 for my visa on 27th Jul and submit all request documents on 21st Aug. now the visa status is changing from initial assess to further assess...

just share my timeline, and hopefully, I can have some good news in 2020...

[Bob Y]

On 19/08/2020 at 16:13, Bob Y said:

Hello,

I am a silent reader for a while.

Today my agent lodged my application. I don't think health care professionals may have more priorities than others. Initially, my agent also thought it on this way. He confidently believed that the nomination could be approved by the mid of August. So he didn't lodge my application until now. Based on his ideas, all of 186 visa in VIC may be processed slowly due to stage 4 restriction. So we have to wait for it patiently. 

It is my timeline:

Nomination: June 24, 2020-- still being processed

Application:  August 19, 2020

Location: VIC

Onshore 2, offshore 1

Occupation: sonographer

Passport:  Canada.

Today my agent told me the nomination was approved. But I can't do medical exam until it could be available in VIC due to stage 4 restriction. 

my timeline:

Nomination: June 24, 2020-- Approved August 24, 2020

Application:  August 19, 2020

Location: VIC

Onshore 2, offshore 1

Occupation: sonographer

Passport:  Canada.

[Devl Prog 186 DE]

1 hour ago, ab3nash said:

Same for me as well. I have close to 4 years of relevant work experience but ACS took 2 years out of that for Skills Assessment. I talked to an agent and they said that only the experience after Skill Requirement Met Date counts which leaves me with a little less than 2 years of experience.

In the requirement for 186 visa, DOHA has written "have at least 3 years relevant work experience, unless you are exempt" which is a bit vague.

I am wondering if anyone else in our situation has applied for 186 visa and if they can share their experience.

Hi Mate,

The Home affairs doesn't count that metdate.... all u need refer in your skill assessment that is your all experience are noted. If yes your all good to count ur experience.

[Horus]

56 minutes ago, Devl Prog 186 DE said:

Hi Mate,

The Home affairs doesn't count that metdate.... all u need refer in your skill assessment that is your all experience are noted. If yes your all good to count ur experience.

This is what I have got.

[ab3nash]

54 minutes ago, Devl Prog 186 DE said:

Hi Mate,

The Home affairs doesn't count that metdate.... all u need refer in your skill assessment that is your all experience are noted. If yes your all good to count ur experience.

Hi,

Thank you for answering.

Have you or anyone you know applied in the same scenario? 

Yes, all my experience (close to 4 years) is noted in my skills assessment. Are you sure that the experience before the skills requirement met date counts too? 

Thanks again.

[Adam B]

25 minutes ago, ab3nash said:

Hi,

Thank you for answering.

Have you or anyone you know applied in the same scenario? 

Yes, all my experience (close to 4 years) is noted in my skills assessment. Are you sure that the experience before the skills requirement met date counts too? 

Thanks again.

 

My MARA agent emphasis this two aspects, one is from https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skills-assessment

which I attached, and there is a sentence "You must also have been employed in the occupation full-time for at least 3 years, at the level of skill required for the occupation."

another document is ACS skills assessment which you've uploaded, there is another sentence "The following employment after 31 January 2020 is considered  to equate to work at an appropriately skilled level and relevant to ANZSCO Code 262112 (ICT Security Specialist)" 

 

This is unfortunately quite straightforward, however it is worth to check with different MARA agent, you can ask people here, but theirs answer is just a subjective opinion same as mine’s . You can also call to immi, they should answer you for that question via phone. I had a problem w medical appointment and called them and they answered for all my questions.

 

 

[ab3nash]

Hi Adam,

Thank you for answering. I will definitely check with another MARA agent like you said.

5 minutes ago, Adam B said:

You can also call to immi, they should answer you for that question via phone. I had a problem w medical appointment and called them and they answered for all my questions.

I highly doubt that IMMI will answer questions regarding this, though.

[JessieQ]

1 hour ago, ab3nash said:

Hi,

Thank you for answering.

Have you or anyone you know applied in the same scenario? 

Yes, all my experience (close to 4 years) is noted in my skills assessment. Are you sure that the experience before the skills requirement met date counts too? 

Thanks again.

It sounds a bit odd to take 4 years from your oversea experience. I've done 2 skill assessments with ACS before (1st try was not successful). My 5 years of oversea experience was not identified at all in my first try. I then uploaded more documents to prove my case and then they only took 2 years off that. Maybe consider provide more documents especially make sure your oversea position description completely match 'ANZSCO Code 262112 (ICT Security Specialist)'.

I was a project manager and a programmer at the same time when I worked oversea. But in order to make sure my position match what I applied for. I only mentioned my position as 'programmer' and asked my former employer to provide a reference letter to compliance with that.

My former employer was very surprised that I didn't want to mention anything about my PM role in the company (since it regards as a higher position than programmer in the company). I explained to them that if I apply for a job, the more roles I have played the better. But when it comes to skilled immigration, the simpler the easier.

I am not sure if your previous position is exactly named as 'ICT Security Specialist' or not. But if not, maybe consider describe it as totally undebatable to the position. That's what I've done to my oversea position and I've never regretted about that after the 2nd skill assessment was recognised successfully.

Edited August 24, 2020 by JessieQ

[Devl Prog 186 DE]

1 hour ago, Horus said:

This is what I have got.

Your all good and eligible to apply 186 visa. All the best.