The Brand New PIO Parents Visa thread

[MikenSueNW3]

Hey - has anyone any experience of the 143 (contributory parent visa) when one of the applicants has had skin cancer? (or any other type of cancer) - wanted to try find out if my Dad would meet the health requirements, he had it 2 years ago and has been clear since - it wasn't a spreading cancer, but I can't seem to find any definate answers about this!

 

Any help at all would be great, Thanks!

 

G'day

 

I don't know for sure, but if your dad had basal or squamous cell carcinoma – the non-metastasizing types – I would have thought he would be OK. They are VERY well known in Oz, as I expect you know, and any medical officer should know that they are no long-term serious risk. A melanoma would be a different matter, though.

 

The recent guidelines (I checked last year, as I had a history of prostate cancer) say…

Cancer – recent outline guidelines

A grade if applicant is recurrence-free >5 years post-treatment.

B grade if evidence of recurrence exists, or if <5 years since treatment. Specialist report of staging at time of diagnosis (including histopathological reports), details of primary treatment, examination findings, treatment needs, future prognosis, and excluding current recurrence.

 

 

In other words, if there is no recurrence after more than five years it's probably OK, but if it's less time than that they want detailed reports and prognosis.

 

In my own case, only three years had passed since I had a prostatectomy, but I had positive reports and test results from my oncologist in the UK and so on, and I passed and got the visa (173 in fact, in the first instance – we've now applied for the 143s, which "normally" require no further medicals; in fact, all still goes well, touch wood!)

 

So, to summarize, if you dad has all his records and recent check-up results, and they are positive, he should be OK.

 

Good luck to him and you, Mike

[sazgeering]

hia sazgeering, we are also going through the 143 visa prosess. we had our medicals recently...if you are clear now then there should be no problem.however the dr may ask for a report to confirm all is clear. its nothing to worry about as long as all clear . ps would be good to keep in touch if you like. have you been waiting long ? ..i hope we get our case officer soon

 

Hi Sonia - Thanks so much for your reply , thats but our minds at rest a little- its my parents who are thinking of applying - and my Dad has been all clear for 2 years, so fingers crossed!

I've applied for a 175 visa and are just waiting for our medicals to be cleared (they were done last week, so not long now, hopefully)

My parents are keeping their options open for if we settle out there.

 

Hope you hear from a case officer soon - have you been waiting long? Good Luck!

[sazgeering]

G'day

 

I don't know for sure, but if your dad had basal or squamous cell carcinoma – the non-metastasizing types – I would have thought he would be OK. They are VERY well known in Oz, as I expect you know, and any medical officer should know that they are no long-term serious risk. A melanoma would be a different matter, though.

 

The recent guidelines (I checked last year, as I had a history of prostate cancer) say…

Cancer – recent outline guidelines

A grade if applicant is recurrence-free >5 years post-treatment.

B grade if evidence of recurrence exists, or if <5 years since treatment. Specialist report of staging at time of diagnosis (including histopathological reports), details of primary treatment, examination findings, treatment needs, future prognosis, and excluding current recurrence.

 

 

In other words, if there is no recurrence after more than five years it's probably OK, but if it's less time than that they want detailed reports and prognosis.

 

In my own case, only three years had passed since I had a prostatectomy, but I had positive reports and test results from my oncologist in the UK and so on, and I passed and got the visa (173 in fact, in the first instance – we've now applied for the 143s, which "normally" require no further medicals; in fact, all still goes well, touch wood!)

 

So, to summarize, if you dad has all his records and recent check-up results, and they are positive, he should be OK.

 

Good luck to him and you, Mike

 

 

Thanks Mike - thats great information - I couldn't find anything on the Immi website, sometimes I'm sure they hide things!!!

I will let my parents know, as I think they'd be quite interested if we end up settling out there when we go. By that time, fingers crossed, 5 years would have passed and hopefully cancer-free, so that sounds good what you're saying!

 

Thanks again, big relief for me too, as at least it could be an option (rather than it never being possible!) :-)

[Guest guest65599]

we applyed for the visa dec 2010

email we recieved recently said to expect case officer within next 4 months. so im praying it will be good news !

[Guest guest65599]

hia val, just noticed ur message...tracker ? sorry but i dont know what that is, im not good at this as you can see.

applyed for 143 visa dec 2010, hope it sorted soon, seems such a long wait. how are you progressing ?

[vava]

hia val, just noticed ur message...tracker ? sorry but i dont know what that is, im not good at this as you can see.

applyed for 143 visa dec 2010, hope it sorted soon, seems such a long wait. how are you progressing ?

 

Hi Sonia, We got our visa last November - it took about 16 months altogether. The tracker was started by one of the members of this site - Sandch. If you go to www.gainwave.co.uk you will see the information for parent visas and also the tracker. I think you can register and enter your name and dates etc and as your application progresses you will see how far along everyone else is. I`m now on the other page for visa already granted. Its really helpful - Sandch is very knowledgeable as well as being a wizz with websites etc.

I reckon you should be hearing from your case officer very soon if you applied nearly 14 months ago. Hope all goes smoothly for you and good luck!

regards, Val x

[JohnandEirian]

hia val, just noticed ur message...tracker ? sorry but i dont know what that is, im not good at this as you can see.

applyed for 143 visa dec 2010, hope it sorted soon, seems such a long wait. how are you progressing ?

Try this link, Sonia.

It's a really useful website which tells you when people apply, get a CO, do medicals, get visa, etc.

John

[JohnandEirian]

Try this link, Sonia.

It's a really useful website which tells you when people apply, get a CO, do medicals, get visa, etc.

John

Here's the link!!!

http://www.chireckles.com/cpv/tracker.php

[Guest guest65599]

thanks vava, i checked out the tracker..seems usefull.....i do hope we will hear fron co soon..i have 2 sons and 3 young granchildren ther and miss them so much...glad you got your visa..im hoping we will get ours and not be turned down its me and my mum who are holing to go and it seems to be so difficult...but will see soon... God bless x

[Guest guest65599]

thankyou so much...will check it out x

[Guest guest65599]

thankyou so much johnandEirian..will check it out x

[Guest Cathwotherspoon]

Hi everyone

Not posted on here for quite a while but watching regularly with interest. I am hopefully in a position to apply for a visa now and it is quite a daunting prospect so just hope I get it right !!! Just a couple of questions : I will apply for 173 to keep costs down as family may need to contribute until I sell house which of course is not guaranteed in these times - do you require an AoS on the 173 or is that not until applying for the 143. Also the second VAC is that payable just before grant of visa which looks now like it could be 12-16 months after initial aplication

Thanks Cath

[vava]

You are right Cath, the 173 does not need the AOS. That comes into play when the 143 is about to be granted. The 2nd VAC will be charged at whatever the rate is when you apply. I understand the fees go up about 10-15 per cent every year - usually July (and maybe January too but not sure). Suppose as long as you get your application in before July the fee will be whatever it shows on the immi website. Ours took 16 months in total.

We need to sell our house too but not in too much of a rush just yet.

Hope everything goes ok for you! Val

[MikenSueNW3]

Thanks Mike - thats great information - I couldn't find anything on the Immi website, sometimes I'm sure they hide things!!!

 

 

G'day again

 

The inner depths of the Immi health website are only available to registered users – and that costs, so it's usually only taken by registered migration agents/lawyers.

 

But state libraries in Oz also have access – so on a visit to Sydney a year or two ago, I looked it up at the Mitchell Library.

 

Mike

[Guest Cathwotherspoon]

You are right Cath, the 173 does not need the AOS. That comes into play when the 143 is about to be granted. The 2nd VAC will be charged at whatever the rate is when you apply. I understand the fees go up about 10-15 per cent every year - usually July (and maybe January too but not sure). Suppose as long as you get your application in before July the fee will be whatever it shows on the immi website. Ours took 16 months in total.

We need to sell our house too but not in too much of a rush just yet.

Hope everything goes ok for you! Val

 

Thanks for the info Val. Going to get all bits and pieces of paperwork together and get application in as soon as before the next increase in fees

[Guest]

Hi everyone

Not been on for a couple of weeks as the notice e mails seem to be faultering again but.... Caught up now and good to see the dollar rate and UK eonomy has not stopped the flow of people able to go for the better life.

We are having to fly out and validate our 173 visa (*&gg*^) then return to continue trying to sell the house. Before I trawl through all the immi website etc was just wondering if anyone else had had to do this. Really needed to know what required doing regards medicare, tax file Nos, etc, any advise would be gratefully appreciated.

As for the PIP's looking forward to joining you on any meet that you may plan while we are there.

regards

 

Just keep saying to ourselves "IT WILL HAPPEN JUST KEEP THE FAITH"

[charlie5]

Hi everyone

Not been on for a couple of weeks as the notice e mails seem to be faultering again but.... Caught up now and good to see the dollar rate and UK eonomy has not stopped the flow of people able to go for the better life.

We are having to fly out and validate our 173 visa (*&gg*^) then return to continue trying to sell the house. Before I trawl through all the immi website etc was just wondering if anyone else had had to do this. Really needed to know what required doing regards medicare, tax file Nos, etc, any advise would be gratefully appreciated.

As for the PIP's looking forward to joining you on any meet that you may plan while we are there.

regards

 

Just keep saying to ourselves "IT WILL HAPPEN JUST KEEP THE FAITH"

 

Hi

 

If you are just flying out to validate then there is not much to do. Al I would advise is to open an Aussie bank account if you haven't yet done so. Medicare etc cannot be set up (officially) until you are a resident.

 

Have a good trip.

 

Charlie

[Guest]

Hi

 

If you are just flying out to validate then there is not much to do. Al I would advise is to open an Aussie bank account if you haven't yet done so. Medicare etc cannot be set up (officially) until you are a resident.

 

Have a good trip.

 

Charlie

 

Thanks Charlie, had an inkling but needed confirmation. Saved me some time searching.

[MikenSueNW3]

We are having to fly out and validate our 173 visa then return to continue trying to sell the house. Before I trawl through all the immi website etc was just wondering if anyone else had had to do this. Really needed to know what required doing regards medicare, tax file Nos, etc, any advise would be gratefully appreciated.

 

 

G'day P&M

 

It is worth going to Medicare to see about registering.

 

We in fact decided to put in our 173>143 upgrade application straight away, a couple of weeks after arrival. Despite not yet having received our acknowledgement letter, we did (after some discussion with the Medicare bod) find ourselves fully enrolled – with "interim" Medicare cards valid for the two years duration of the 173s but eligible for all Medicare benefits, not just visitors' cover.

 

I'm not sure of the situation if you are on 173s without having applied for 143s, but it's worth asking.

 

We also received (after a phone call to request) the letter confirming eligibilty for Lifetime Health Cover. You need this if you want to take out private medical insurance – it ensures that you only pay at the age 30 rate. (Otherwise, there is a 2% loading for every year over the age of 30.) This eligibilty expires 12 months after you enroll with Medicare as permanent residents or as residents eligible for permanent residency (ie, by having 173 visas).

 

Good luck with selling the house – we're about to return to the UK for the same thing.

 

Mike

[Linday]

G'day P&M

 

It is worth going to Medicare to see about registering.

 

We in fact decided to put in our 173>143 upgrade application straight away, a couple of weeks after arrival. Despite not yet having received our acknowledgement letter, we did (after some discussion with the Medicare bod) find ourselves fully enrolled – with "interim" Medicare cards valid for the two years duration of the 173s but eligible for all Medicare benefits, not just visitors' cover.

 

I'm not sure of the situation if you are on 173s without having applied for 143s, but it's worth asking.

 

We also received (after a phone call to request) the letter confirming eligibilty for Lifetime Health Cover. You need this if you want to take out private medical insurance – it ensures that you only pay at the age 30 rate. (Otherwise, there is a 2% loading for every year over the age of 30.) This eligibilty expires 12 months after you enroll with Medicare as permanent residents or as residents eligible for permanent residency (ie, by having 173 visas).

 

Good luck with selling the house – we're about to return to the UK for the same thing.

 

Mike

 

If you are on the 173 and haven't yet applied for the 143 you get an interim blue Medicare card. I asked what the difference was to the green card, but they said you were entitled to exactly the same, it's just limited validity. When we applied for the 143 we were given a green interim card but we were told it was only valid for a year. I think it's so they can keep tabs on you. Thanks for the info regarding the letter for Eligibility for Lifetime Health cover. We were just wondering about this as we are looking at private health insurance at the moment. Not sure how you go about getting quotes as all the websites ask for age and there is no facility for eligibilty for lifetime health cover. I guess you have to ring them direct.

[cathandtone]

If you are on the 173 and haven't yet applied for the 143 you get an interim blue Medicare card. I asked what the difference was to the green card, but they said you were entitled to exactly the same, it's just limited validity. When we applied for the 143 we were given a green interim card but we were told it was only valid for a year. I think it's so they can keep tabs on you. Thanks for the info regarding the letter for Eligibility for Lifetime Health cover. We were just wondering about this as we are looking at private health insurance at the moment. Not sure how you go about getting quotes as all the websites ask for age and there is no facility for eligibilty for lifetime health cover. I guess you have to ring them direct.

 

Hi Linda

 

You can get your Eligibility for Lifetime Health cover by calling in at a Medicare office, this is what we did. As for getting quotes I used a comparison website to find the cheapest cover I could find with a view to upgrading at a later date if necessary. I'm pretty sure that the quotes we had made the assumption that we were entitled to the discount and we subsequently had to send off the letter to our chosen company. The cover we have chosen means that we have quite a 'gap' on things like optical and dental but I feel that at the moment that the cheaper premiums cover this.

 

Cath

[MikenSueNW3]

Thanks for the info regarding the letter for Eligibility for Lifetime Health cover. We were just wondering about this as we are looking at private health insurance at the moment. Not sure how you go about getting quotes as all the websites ask for age and there is no facility for eligibilty for lifetime health cover. I guess you have to ring them direct.

 

G'day Linda

 

Cath is quite right – the websites assume you are eligible for Lifetime Health Cover. The difference in cost can run to a hundred dollars a month or more, depending on the level of cover – even as much as $250!

 

Mike

 

PS: One (of several) of the comparison websites is http://www.iselect.com.au.

[Julian927]

G'day Linda

 

Cath is quite right – the websites assume you are eligible for Lifetime Health Cover. The difference in cost can run to a hundred dollars a month or more, depending on the level of cover – even as much as $250!

 

Mike

 

PS: One (of several) of the comparison websites is www.iselect.com.au.

 

This is the Australian Government comparison website. http://www.privatehealth.gov.au/ which we found quite useful.

We also subscribed to Choice (an online website that provides information rather like Which in the UK) it cost $22.95 for a quarter. We have hospital cover, which also covers you for ambulance use and extras that provides something like 60% off dental, glasses and the like, plus 6 visits to the chiropractor, massages etc.

It is difficult deciding between the various offers as they are all different.

One good thing is that as you get older the cover gets cheaper (When my husband reached 65 it went down by about $30 a month) and you do not have to pass a medical to get cover.

Julie

[Linday]

Thanks everyone for the useful tips. I will start searching.

[purplealster]

Hi There,

 

Apologies for gatecrashing this thread - I wasnt sure where to post my question.

My Mom is reaching the time upon which she can apply for the CPV. I just wanted to confirm that my husband is able to sponsor her as an inlaw? I do not work however, he is a high bracket earner ($220,000+), we own our house and we have savings in the bank. My younger sister has been here since 2008 (but can only apply for PR April 2013), works for a large organisation and has just bought a house with her partner - so the financial obligation would be split between them and us. I guess my sister would be able to sponsor her at some point when she gets PR but as my husband earns substantially more money than her, thought an application done by ourselves would sit better with immigration.

 

Many Thanks

 

Purplealster.