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[can1983]

So I'm putting it out there. Saw the discussion around the Ponds in Western Sydney. If this was my only option in Sydney I'd leave Sydney. If this was my only option in Australia I'd leave Australia. Why would people saddle themselves with a 30 year mortgage to live here 45km from the beach? There's less space than what's afforded to livestock.

It makes me so sad

[Toots]

1 hour ago, can1983 said:

So I'm putting it out there. Saw the discussion around the Ponds in Western Sydney. If this was my only option in Sydney I'd leave Sydney. If this was my only option in Australia I'd leave Australia. Why would people saddle themselves with a 30 year mortgage to live here 45km from the beach? There's less space than what's afforded to livestock.

It makes me so sad

That looks very depressing.  Hopefully there is a large park nearby to make up for the lack of gardens.

Are they social housing?  If not I wonder how much each of those dwellings cost.

[Guest]

No, not social housing -- they sell around the $1.4m mark: https://www.domain.com.au/sale/the-ponds-nsw-2769/

[Toots]

Just now, Peach said:

No, not social housing -- they sell around the $1.4m mark: https://www.domain.com.au/sale/the-ponds-nsw-2769/

You  must be joking!  

[Toots]

8 minutes ago, Peach said:

No, not social housing -- they sell around the $1.4m mark: https://www.domain.com.au/sale/the-ponds-nsw-2769/

There have been 1.4 million views.  Surely those dog boxes can't possibly be worth over a million each.

[Marisawright]

3 minutes ago, Toots said:

There have been 1.4 million views.  Surely those dog boxes can't possibly be worth over a million each.

A million dollars for a house is very cheap by Sydney standards.

[Guest]

they're 4 bedroom/3 bathroom 300sqm houses on tiny blocks 45km from the Sydney CBD..

[Toots]

7 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

A million dollars for a house is very cheap by Sydney standards.

I couldn't live in one of those houses even if they were half the price.

 

[Marisawright]

16 minutes ago, Toots said:

I couldn't live in one of those houses even if they were half the price.

Me neither.  That's why I moved to Melbourne, rather than move to Sydney's outer burbs.

[Ausvisitor]

3 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Me neither.  That's why I moved to Melbourne, rather than move to Sydney's outer burbs.

Me too, I went to Sydney to start with but hopped to Melbourne as soon as it was possible

[Tulip1]

8 hours ago, Toots said:

I couldn't live in one of those houses even if they were half the price.

 

I couldn’t either.  That’s a very depressing photo.  Those houses won’t win awards for their kerb appeal that’s for sure.  

[Ken]

12 hours ago, Tulip1 said:

I couldn’t either.  That’s a very depressing photo.  Those houses won’t win awards for their kerb appeal that’s for sure.  

Actually, if you crouch down and photograph them from the kerb, they probably will look better than they do in that aerial shot.

[Philip]

On 25/04/2024 at 16:58, Ken said:

Actually, if you crouch down and photograph them from the kerb, they probably will look better than they do in that aerial shot.

I drove through here yesterday. It felt a bit weird because it's very flat while the suburbs just to the east are extremely hilly

Here is a photo from the Google car.

[Bobj]

In Yorhire, a few terraced houses, cars parked. the wrong way and not a arage in sight 

 

 

 

 

 

 cheers, Bobj.

Edited May 30 by Bobj
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[Toots]

1 hour ago, Bobj said:

In Yorhire, a few terraced houses, cars parked. the wrong way and not a arage in sight 

 

 

 

 

 

 cheers, Bobj.

My sister lived in Putney (London) for years and the houses in her street were built in the era before cars were used much so no garages.  It wasn't a wide street and cars were parked bumper to bumper on both sides of the street so it was pot luck if you managed to park your car next to your house.

[ramot]

33 minutes ago, Toots said:

My sister lived in Putney (London) for years and the houses in her street were built in the era before cars were used much so no garages.  It wasn't a wide street and cars were parked bumper to bumper on both sides of the street so it was pot luck if you managed to park your car next to your house.

I lived in East Sheen ,not far from Putney, in the 1950’s - 1960’s, there were  no garages in my street, but hardly anyone had a car in the 1950’s or 1960’s, we had a perfectly good bus service, to get us around. When I was on early shift for the airline I worked for in the early 1960’s, I would catch the first bus out of the depot at about 05.20. Sometimes the bus driver missed seeing me, or the others who worked with the same airline, at the temporary bus stop just outside the depot. Had to rush up to the main road, where we had to hope someone driving would give us a lift. Luckily there were some regulars passing to work at the markets, who used to look out for us. I’ve never forgotten slipping down an icy road in my airline high heels at the crack of dawn.

[Toots]

1 hour ago, ramot said:

I lived in East Sheen ,not far from Putney, in the 1950’s - 1960’s, there were  no garages in my street, but hardly anyone had a car in the 1950’s or 1960’s, we had a perfectly good bus service, to get us around. When I was on early shift for the airline I worked for in the early 1960’s, I would catch the first bus out of the depot at about 05.20. Sometimes the bus driver missed seeing me, or the others who worked with the same airline, at the temporary bus stop just outside the depot. Had to rush up to the main road, where we had to hope someone driving would give us a lift. Luckily there were some regulars passing to work at the markets, who used to look out for us. I’ve never forgotten slipping down an icy road in my airline high heels at the crack of dawn.

Yes, my sister had a bus stop round the corner or the choice of Putney Bridge tube station or East Putney station which is the one she used to get to work.  Why  bother with a car when there is such good public transport close by. 

[Nemesis]

21 minutes ago, Toots said:

Yes, my sister had a bus stop round the corner or the choice of Putney Bridge tube station or East Putney station which is the one she used to get to work.  Why  bother with a car when there is such good public transport close by. 

That was always my argument! Living in Brighton with excellent public transport I just never learnt to drive. Of course then when I went to Oz I was treated as some kind of oddity and had numerous arguments, mainly to do with ID, as people insisted "Of course you have a driving licence. Everyone drives...."

Now back in Brighton and very glad I never wasted money on learning!!

[Ferrets]

Just had a quick check of where we lived in London too, smaller plots overall.  I think ours was approximately 250sqm total plot, semi detached three storey.  I reckon it would be a nicer house for those new builds.

Edited May 30 by Ferrets

[can1983]

13 hours ago, Ferrets said:

Just had a quick check of where we lived in London too, smaller plots overall.  I think ours was approximately 250sqm total plot, semi detached three storey.  I reckon it would be a nicer house for those new builds.

Yeah my uk house was 85m2 on a 250m2 block. It was rubbish, pokey and depressing. Moving to Australia should give you more space

my point was that Australia is a massive country with many times (10?) the usable ('non desert') land of the uk and only 1/3 of the population

So why should people be squeezed in like this

[Jon the Hat]

Those are large detached houses by any measure.  The fact they have little garden is sad, but reflects people's choices now.  Lets not pretend it is some awful life.  Most houses in Perth suburbs looks similar.  

[Bob Jones]

On 30/05/2024 at 18:02, Toots said:

My sister lived in Putney (London) for years and the houses in her street were built in the era before cars were used much so no garages.  It wasn't a wide street and cars were parked bumper to bumper on both sides of the street so it was pot luck if you managed to park your car next to your house.

Half of England is like that, and now the familes have 3 cars each and get into arguments about parking outside their house as if if they own part of the highway too.

Luckily I never faced that problem.....the terraced house was the same but we had double yellows outside so no bugger could park 

[Bob Jones]

[tea4too]

4 hours ago, Bob Jones said:

Half of England is like that, and now the familes have 3 cars each and get into arguments about parking outside their house as if if they own part of the highway too.

Luckily I never faced that problem.....the terraced house was the same but we had double yellows outside so no bugger could park 

It can sometimes feel that Britain and England in particular is over developed, however that's not borne out by official statistics. Unsurprisingly London had the highest proportion of developed land in 2022 but even then we're only talking 40%, although within that figure some local authority areas were clearly maxed out in terms of regeneration and development. The remaining English regions range between 7% and 10% developed, but again there will be pockets within those areas of intense development. Still, overall it seems that Britain is still pretty rural in land mass terms. T x

[Toots]

9 hours ago, tea4too said:

It can sometimes feel that Britain and England in particular is over developed, however that's not borne out by official statistics. Unsurprisingly London had the highest proportion of developed land in 2022 but even then we're only talking 40%, although within that figure some local authority areas were clearly maxed out in terms of regeneration and development. The remaining English regions range between 7% and 10% developed, but again there will be pockets within those areas of intense development. Still, overall it seems that Britain is still pretty rural in land mass terms. T x

Cumbria, Northumberland, County Durham, a lot of Lancashire and Yorkshire, East Anglia and Herefordshire to name but a few of lovely unspoilt large areas of countryside.