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  1. tea4too

    Is the UK’s weather massively underrated?

    I don't have to put up with this, I accept the UK climate for what it is and get on with life. Today is beautiful warm sunshine and I've just spent two hours in the garden gathering up autumnal leaves, wondering why the cherry tree is trying to bloom for the second time this year. Next week it might be wet and windy but I'll be just as happy walking along the beach wrapped up to stay warm and dry. October to March the daylight hours are shorter, but life doesn't have to stop because it's cold or dark outside - I've some great memories of sitting in the summerhouse in winter, rugged up and sharing a nice bottle of red with friends. There's a lot to be said for the temperate nature of the UK climate and, while it may not suit everyone, personally I do think it's under rated. T x
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    The Slave Trade and removal of statues

    I like history as a subject as it clarifies how the past has shaped the present, and arguably it's unhealthy to selectively erase bits to fit a narrative as censorship can distort what we think we know. But while it's important to know the history behind the statues, monuments and anthems, I don't need them visibly in my life to do that. As a society we live in different times and value different things. So for me any public recognition of slave traders belongs in a museum, alongside recordings of jingoistic songs and anthems. We grow, move on, understand the past but leave it there as we hopefully learn the lessons. There's a difference between acknowledging facts and celebrating them. T x
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    Political correctness gone mad

    Having worked with Welsh speakers I can only admire the speed and ability with which they switch between Welsh and English, and I have never felt any animosity for being unable to do the same. However I can sing the National Anthem and provide a cwtch when one is needed, and feel a little defensive on behalf of my friends and neighbours who are constantly side-lined when it comes to main stream media and all things English - Wales is not England and makes no apologies for it, and righty so. I do think the switching from English to Welsh in pubs is a bit of an urban myth, but exceptions prove the rule so who knows... although personally it's not something I've ever experienced. T x
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    Stop the boats!

    Whatever system we introduce, no matter how tough, compassionate, fair or arbitrary, the reality is that war and persecution displaces millions of people around the world so there will always be refugees desperate enough to flee and seek asylum elsewhere.The problem is not going away anytime soon. Governments can either genuinely work on policies to support the most vulnerable while also working across departments to address the wider issues, or they can continue to spend money on policies focused on locking people out. I don't see many other options to be honest, and don't really have the heart to continue to respond to posts that make sweeping judgements about people who have potentially faced horrors we could never imagine. Fwiw attached is a link to a poem that I came across a while ago and have thought about a few times reading some of the thread replies. Tx https://brianbilston.com/2016/03/23/refugees/
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    Stop the boats!

    I don't think anyone is suggesting that claims for asylum should not be investigated once lodged. The disagreement seems to be whether people should be required to make that claim in the first safe country they enter, and legally they are not bound to. In 2014 the refugee population was more than 14m and is a growing global issue, one that first world countries need to work together to manage. The 1951 Refugee Convention may have been established 70 years ago but countries have joined over the decades, and to date no country has withdrawn. T x
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    Stop the boats!

    You are right in that they have a choice, and it is hard for us to walk in the shoes of someone who has fled war, torture and such like, to know or understand why they would take what seem like additional unnecessary risks. Amnesty International suggests that family, community and language connections are among key factors for those who focus on a particular country to make their claim for asylum. T x www.amnesty.org.uk/truth-about-refugees
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    Stop the boats!

    You are mistaken. It is perfectly legal to arrive and claim asylum in one of the 145 countries that have signed up to the 1951 Refugee Convention, with no requirement to do so en-route irrespective of how many 'safe' countries have been passed through. T x
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    Stop the boats!

    More do than don't, but they don't have to. Why would we expect France to take on responsibilities that the UK has signed up to? T x
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    Stop the boats!

    Re-reading some of the views expressed on this thread I don't think people are in as much disagreement as it seems. Most don't have an issue with those genuinely seeking asylum and we would all probably agree that those who pose a terrorist threat or are looking to exploit loopholes should not be treated as asylum seekers or refugees. The differences come when we try to distinguish between those we want to help and those we want to exclude - and how we identify those people. Assuming, even by the law of averages, that some people on the boats are genuine we could make it a priority to identify them, but instead we seem to treat them as collateral damage and look for ways to stop them arriving. They have a legal right to arrive and claim asylum but we are trying to take that right away because other people are fraudulently claiming to be something they are not. I wouldn't pretend that developing and maintaining a reputable asylum process is simple, but we can try. And we can be honest by revisiting the requirements of the 1951 Refugee Convention and deciding whether we want to be bound by them or not, bearing in mind no country to date has withdrawn its support. T x
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    Stop the boats!

    The 1951 Refugee Convention guarantees everyone the right to apply for asylum in any country that has signed up to it. It also recognises that people may have to use irregular means to escape and lodge a claim for asylum in another country. There is no such thing as an illegal asylum seeker. As a signatory to the Convention the UK does not need to look for safe or legal ways to push asylum seekers in any direction. We just need to find a way to process asylum claims professionally, promptly and fairly. T x
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    Stop the boats!

    Bur we can't know who is genuine just by looking at them. And you don't have to be destitute to qualify for asylum, educated and professional people are among those who flee their homeland to seek refuge elsewhere. People do not deserve to be treated badly just because we have a problem working out who is genuine and who is not. Ultimately I feel that pushing a potentially leaky boat back through busy shipping lanes, because we would prefer people not to seek asylum that way, cannot be right. T x
  12. Don't want to take the thread off track, but out of interest I don't think that's the case. Spain was neutral during WW1 and freely reported on the flu pandemic, unlike other European countries and the USA where censors suppressed the story so as not to affect military and civilian morale. As the news came out of Spain it became known as the Spanish flu, however the original source is not known although France, China Britain and the USA have all been suggested at various times. T x
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    Stop the boats!

    It's not illegal to seek asylum and international law doesn't require people to request it in the first 'safe' country they reach. The numbers arriving in the UK is relatively small, yet we appear to be saying that we do not even want to listen to the reasons for people arriving here. There are too many fraudsters looking to exploit the welfare system, so turn everyone away because whatever their human story it is not our problem. Tbh it's hard to see a policy of pushing back boats as anything else. But there's potential for fraud in almost every aspect of life and a civilised society surely can't use that as a legitimate excuse for doing nothing to help the genuine. The UK is a first world country and it shouldn't be beyond us to expect a border control system that is just, lawful and compassionate. What method of transport are we asking people to use to get here before we will give them a fair and dignified chance to plead their case for asylum or refuge? I remember the little boy who washed up on a holiday beach some years ago and how for a short time the world shared in five minutes of hand wringing. We struggled with the images of a child facedown in the sand because he was an innocent, vulnerable little boy let down by a cruel world. The world is still cruel, and vulnerable innocent people are still being failed by the rest of us. T x
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    Off Topic Coronavirus 2020

    In which case it appears they may have contravened the rules. Personally, and for the reasons stated in my earlier post, I would probably raise it with the restaurant first and hopefully their response will reassure you that it was a one off oversight. If not you should have sufficient additional detail to forward to the authorities for follow up. T x
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    Off Topic Coronavirus 2020

    I think some people are cautious about handing over personal information without clarification of how it is stored, for how long and how it might be shared, and have read reports of unhappy customers verbally challenging proprietors about the pros/ cons. Perhaps this particular venue has a policy of taking contact details from the person making the booking on the understanding that they would know how to contact party members if necessary (as they would if the meal needed to be cancelled). Personally , on the basis that I enjoyed the hospitality of the venue and chose not to question their policy at the time (for whatever reason) I would hesitate about making any sort of formal complaint. Instead I might email the manager and thank them for an enjoyable lunch but confess that I was slightly surprised not to be asked to sign in.... could s/he clarify whether we had slipped through the net, or are there other arrangements in place to support the Covid contact regulations? The reply should clarify whether there is a need to do anything else. T x
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