Bobj Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 On 4/5/2018 at 15:42, ramot said: It's a worry, life can be so confusing sometimes to know your Arthur from Martha!!!? @ramot, confusing?? When discussing this thread, one should be Frank and Earnest, don't you agree? Because of the threat from ex cyclone Iris, still making up her mind as to where to go next, we have had high winds and rain squalls, ergo, I watched the lot...Might, if the weather improves, watch the marathon, all three on the last morning. Cheers, Bobj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicF Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 12 hours ago, Perthbum said: Look at your own country though, top of the pile mate. Australia top of the pile at the moment. Don’t expect it to last though as they don’t really have any major threats in the track and field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, NicF said: Australia top of the pile at the moment. Don’t expect it to last though as they don’t really have any major threats in the track and field. We were saying that last night Nic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulya Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, ali said: We were saying that last night Nic Had two and both withdrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbye grey sky Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, NicF said: Australia top of the pile at the moment. Don’t expect it to last though as they don’t really have any major threats in the track and field. Track and field medals are spread out far more though with African nations strong in long distance and Caribbean nations strong in the sprints. There is no strong nation in field events generally within the Commonwealth, it tends to come down to individuals. There are dozens of events in the pool however and Australia have traditionally dominated that. England are expected to dominate gymnastics. The other category where there are a lot of events is cycling where most of the golds will be shared between Australia, England and Scotland. It would be a major shock if Australia did not win most gold, silver and bronze medals in their ‘home’ games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulya Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, Gbye grey sky said: Track and field medals are spread out far more though with African nations strong in long distance and Caribbean nations strong in the sprints. There is no strong nation in field events generally within the Commonwealth, it tends to come down to individuals. There are dozens of events in the pool however and Australia have traditionally dominated that. England are expected to dominate gymnastics. The other category where there are a lot of events is cycling where most of the golds will be shared between Australia, England and Scotland. It would be a major shock if Australia did not win most gold, silver and bronze medals in their ‘home’ games Disagreee, it would be a shock if they did. Sports funding hasn’t been a govt priority for two decades and will be cut further especially to sports such as athletics. Australia needs sports funding like the U.K but it won’t be happening anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbye grey sky Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 45 minutes ago, Bulya said: Disagreee, it would be a shock if they did. Sports funding hasn’t been a govt priority for two decades and will be cut further especially to sports such as athletics. Australia needs sports funding like the U.K but it won’t be happening anytime soon The only serious contender to Australia topping the medals tally is England, and England won’t win many medals in track & field athletics. Australia have clearly sunk money into swimming and cycling but possibly not into gymnastics and rowing. However, it is clear that a lot of money has been spent on the Games facilities and no nation is going to waste that investment without also investing in success. It is why GB benefitted so massively from the 2012 Olympics with success both at Beijing preceding it and Rio. Australia historically are by far and away the major medals winners in CG history with 852 Gold medals in the previous 20 Games compared with 669 to England who are in second place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulya Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 45 minutes ago, Gbye grey sky said: The only serious contender to Australia topping the medals tally is England, and England won’t win many medals in track & field athletics. Australia have clearly sunk money into swimming and cycling but possibly not into gymnastics and rowing. However, it is clear that a lot of money has been spent on the Games facilities and no nation is going to waste that investment without also investing in success. It is why GB benefitted so massively from the 2012 Olympics with success both at Beijing preceding it and Rio. Australia historically are by far and away the major medals winners in CG history with 852 Gold medals in the previous 20 Games compared with 669 to England who are in second place. The feds don’t invest in sport in fact here in Canberra it’s a dirty word. The lack of funding for so many female athletes resulted in them joining the ranks of AFLW for the guaranteed salary. Australia need a lottery to fund sport like the U.K has done very successfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 7 hours ago, Bulya said: The feds don’t invest in sport in fact here in Canberra it’s a dirty word. The lack of funding for so many female athletes resulted in them joining the ranks of AFLW for the guaranteed salary. Australia need a lottery to fund sport like the U.K has done very successfully You can stop whinging now, aussies lead the medal table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 The Campbell sisters are amazing. I feel a bit sorry for Bronte always coming second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 21 hours ago, Bulya said: Natives will do nothing in the athletics etc. World champ Sally Pearson just withdrew and many of the others left athletics, hockey, netball etc for AFLW, for good reason. Expect England to easily top medal tally as of course they should with their population Not just thye population, England have always punched above their weight in almost every sport....they just love competing. Unfortunately my country only loves rugby and football and cricket.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Perthbum said: Not just thye population, England have always punched above their weight in almost every sport....they just love competing. Unfortunately my country only loves rugby and football and cricket.. Have you heard of Chad Le Clos ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulya Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 17 hours ago, simmo said: You can stop whinging now, aussies lead the medal table Not for long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 10 hours ago, Parley said: Have you heard of Chad Le Clos ? Swimming is a very minor sport to me and Most South Africans.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Cheat! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5590691/Gold-medal-contender-Claire-Tallent-shows-sportsmanship-shock-defeat.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoDemocracy Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 5 hours ago, simmo said: Cheat! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5590691/Gold-medal-contender-Claire-Tallent-shows-sportsmanship-shock-defeat.html Give 'us a break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, BacktoDemocracy said: Give 'us a break! Play fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulya Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Out at a cafe and watching athletics and Carrara is nearly empty. Compare that to the Warriors NRL game in Auckland on the weekend which was a lockout (26,500) and they’re looking for a larger ground. Not a good idea to put an event on with marginal interest during football season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Quote QUEENSLAND regions are set to cash in as international Commonwealth Games teams arrive in the Sunshine State to set up camp, as new figures reveal the Gold Coast has already reaped a $50 million windfall from new Games venues. https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games/games-boosting-our-common-wealth-with-a-50m-windfall-already-and-thats-just-the-start/news-story/14b898b4c68a04fbf9b295a758e95814 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slean Wolfhead Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 On 4/7/2018 at 09:12, Bulya said: Disagreee, it would be a shock if they did. Sports funding hasn’t been a govt priority for two decades and will be cut further especially to sports such as athletics. Australia needs sports funding like the U.K but it won’t be happening anytime soon It's the old Olympic cycle. Massive funding prior to a home games, then a residual effect for the next one...then a decrease as the next generation don't come through because the funding was cut 8 years previously. Happened to Australia, will happen to the UK. France will be gearing up for 2024, then the Yanks in 2028 after a few shakey games by their high standards. What i didn't realise is that a lot of it is due to the coaching, and the top coaches just jump from host nation to host nation, earning the big bucks when the budget is there. Very business-orientated system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slean Wolfhead Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 On 4/7/2018 at 10:07, Gbye grey sky said: The only serious contender to Australia topping the medals tally is England, and England won’t win many medals in track & field athletics. Australia have clearly sunk money into swimming and cycling but possibly not into gymnastics and rowing. However, it is clear that a lot of money has been spent on the Games facilities and no nation is going to waste that investment without also investing in success. It is why GB benefitted so massively from the 2012 Olympics with success both at Beijing preceding it and Rio. Australia historically are by far and away the major medals winners in CG history with 852 Gold medals in the previous 20 Games compared with 669 to England who are in second place. The swimming is just a procession, it's easier for the Aussies than the v USA swim meets and they don't really seem that interested. Cycling has surprised me, but again the UK cycles (no pun intended) to peak for the Olympics and often don't do much in between. Then again, the Aussies have been stung by the money the UK chucked at cycling, pretty much wiping them out for a decade. The rowing should be interesting too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Bulya said: Out at a cafe and watching athletics and Carrara is nearly empty. Compare that to the Warriors NRL game in Auckland on the weekend which was a lockout (26,500) and they’re looking for a larger ground. Not a good idea to put an event on with marginal interest during football season What game do warriors play? Never heard of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbye grey sky Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Bulya said: Out at a cafe and watching athletics and Carrara is nearly empty. Compare that to the Warriors NRL game in Auckland on the weekend which was a lockout (26,500) and they’re looking for a larger ground. Not a good idea to put an event on with marginal interest during football season Do you consider that Australia can only cope with one sporting event at a time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slean Wolfhead Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, Gbye grey sky said: Do you consider that Australia can only cope with one sporting event at a time? ignoring that Auckland isn't even in Australia, and this is the first time the NZ Warriors have had a team that isn't choking for years ! Except for AFL, crowds are pretty poor across all other sports here. They just don't have that culture of following in large numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbye grey sky Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Slean Wolfhead said: ignoring that Auckland isn't even in Australia, and this is the first time the NZ Warriors have had a team that isn't choking for years ! Except for AFL, crowds are pretty poor across all other sports here. They just don't have that culture of following in large numbers. I tend to disagree. RFL is well supported here, and cricket’s Big Bash games were regularly played in front of 30-40,000 people across the country. Australia has smaller population than the UK spread out over a vast land mass too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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