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  1. Parley

    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    The EU will only allow it if they exit the UK not otherwise.
  2. Parley

    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    the EU won't let them.
  3. Parley

    The Ashes

    Interesting to hear Michael Holding say that the overuse of Archer amounted to abuse in the first test. It will be a shame if England find a good bowler and then work him into the ground and he ends up seriously injured.
  4. Parley

    The Ashes

    You are a disgrace Perthbum. You should be deeply ashamed.
  5. Parley

    The Ashes

    45-6
  6. Parley

    The Ashes

    45-5
  7. After the shattering defeat inflicted this week on George Pell, it might be difficult for many to ­accept that the cardinal is anything other than a dirty old man who has been dealt with properly and deserves his punishment. Those who exhibit such certainty might do well to remember Pell has not yet exhausted all possible avenues of appeal. Until he does, those who have been quick to vilify him should remember what happened to Lindy Chamberlain. After a similar nationwide ­frenzy, this innocent woman was wrongly accused, convicted by a jury and jailed for the murder of her baby, Azaria, who had been taken by a dingo at Ayers Rock. Chamberlain’s eventual exoneration, immortalised in a film, did no favours for the standing of Australian criminal justice. Yet if Pell takes his case to the High Court and wins, the impact on the global standing of Australian justice will make the disgraceful treatment of Chamberlain look benign. If the Pell case does come befor­e the nation’s highest court, this week’s dissenting ruling by Court of Appeal judge Mark Weinberg leaves the strong impres­sion the cardinal has a better-than-even chance of success. Nothing is certain before the High Court but the analysis in Weinberg’s 204-page dissent is compelling. If the High Court agrees — and Pell lives long enough — the implications do not bear thinking about. Cardinal George Pell is escorted in handcuffs from the Supreme Court of Victoria in Melbourn this week after his appeal against convictions for child sex abuse was rejected. Legal academic Peter Kurti says Weinberg “meticulously dissects­ the case against Cardinal Pell and this suggests to me there are some real warnings and real indicators that should have been heeded by the other two justices”. “The fact that they were not is very concerning because ­Weinberg is a very experienced criminal lawyer, a former common­wealth director of public prosecutions,’’ says Kurti, an ­adjunct associate professor in the school of law at the University of Notre Dame Australia. “This is a man who really does know crimin­al law backwards, whereas the other two do not come from a criminal law background.’’ Victoria is still struggling to come to terms with the Lawyer X affair. The state has also been affecte­d by a series of High Court judgments that have overturned decisions of the Court of Appeal. Those cases are outlined in today’s legal affairs section of The Australian by legal academic Mirko Bagaric. Weinberg’s dissent says the defence­ involved a detailed challenge to the prosecution case that was largely based upon “the unchallenged testimony of a significant number of witnesses, all of whom were of good character and reputable. It was not suggested that any of them had lied”. The problem is that the defence also argued the allegations were “impossible”. It would have been better, as Weinberg writes, if this term had never been used. To succeed, the defence merely needed to show there was a reasonable doubt about the prosecution’s case. It did not need to set itself the more onerous task of showing that the prosecution’s allegation­s were impossible. The fact the complainant might have been a good witness is not enough. If there was a reasonable doubt, Pell should have been acquitted, even if the defence failed to show the accusations were impossible. Yesterday, a retired Supreme Court judge from outside Victoria, who is no fan of mine, took the trouble to contact me to make the point that “the case shrieks reasonable doubt”. Those doubts have been spelled out in fine detail by Weinberg. The risk now is that Pell, who is old and sick, might not live long enough for his case to be heard by the High Court. CHRIS MERRITT LEGAL AFFAIRS EDITOR Chris Merritt has been legal affairs editor at The Australian since 2005. He was previously at the Financial Review.
  8. Parley

    The Ashes

    20-3 whoops. What were you saying Perthbum ?
  9. Parley

    How is Megan doing so far?

    Bit of virtue signalling and making the siblings look bad.
  10. Parley

    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    Lucky we are in cash now newjez.
  11. Parley

    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    No WW3 after all ?
  12. I hope you didn’t eat that.
  13. Yes. It wasn’t a unanimous decision which I think should be needed when sending someone to prison. There is no proof or corroboration of guilt, it is a decision on believing an accuser or not. Despite evidence provided to show it couldn’t have happened 2 judges believed the accuser and 1 judge didn’t.
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