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  1. BacktoDemocracy

    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    No he didn't, but the inference was that they were all under control and would be ready for completion before brexit day, I am inferring from the comments that these were trade deals to replicate those of the EU, which I find somewhat less than credible, but he is the Trade Minister. He and Raab seemed to be completely lacking in any understanding, or care, about the position the country is now in and supremely uninterested in how there was a need for compromises across the spectrum to reunite the country and that was going to require some acceptance of change in their thinking. So I can only assume that their intransigence and hatred is going to hold sway and we will simply fall out with no deal and an established mantra that it was all Ireland's fault, which was what Raab was ramping up. So the forces of nationalism are now at play on the national and international scene, our own govt seemingly accepting that as a legitimate political tool now
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    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    Just watching the 'Marr' show and what strikes me most forcefully is that Anna Soubry, Hilary Benn, Kier Starmer, all seem to have some critical thoughts about the situation at the moment and were trying to offer some constructive thoughts about the situation that May is now in and made some arguments about their positions and offered some rationale for their 'fixes'. We then had Dominic Raab and Liam Fox still intransigent and blaming the EU, particularly the Irish govt for the failure of the govts policy based on its own 'Red lines,' which have got them the deal which they knew was a failure back in October, Liam Fox still saying all the trade deals are stitched up but can only name two, Australia and, Switzerland which is due for signing next week, as completed, goody, only another 34 to go. And just for the benefit of the brexiteers on here I reproduce the definition of intransigent and all its synonyms Quote intransigent ADJECTIVE Unwilling or refusing to change one's views or to agree about something. ‘her father had tried persuasion, but she was intransigent’ More example sentences Synonyms uncompromising, inflexible, unbending, unyielding, unshakeable, unwavering, resolute, unpersuadable, unmalleable, unaccommodating, uncooperative, stubborn, obstinate, obdurate, pig-headed, bull-headed, single-minded, iron-willed, hard-line, hard and fast, diehard, immovable, unrelenting, inexorable, inveterate, rigid, tough, firm, determined, adamant, tenacious
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    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    I agree, he is too old and way too set in his ways, his age and his principles get in the way, he simply doesn't understand that he has to want power at all costs, which his opponents understand all too well.
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    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    He tries to play a caricature of the patriarchal upper class likeable clown who only has the best interests of his commoners at heart, when in fact he is very bright man who knows the nationalistic buttons to press in order to get people on side for him, but is always too lazy to follow thro with the hard graft, preferring to just keep on telling people the stories that he knows they want to hear and will believe.
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    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    Yep, right on queue with the insult when faced with an unpalatable truth. Boris has an inbuilt default setting when faced with any difficulty, lie.
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    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    I know it will make no difference but I will post this by professor Anand Menon who sat on that same panel, he doesn't have sleek blond hair but he does have a brain and a few credentials https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/18/cheering-no-deal-question-time-brexit
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    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    And yesterday bojo manage to forget one of his lies about the imminent membership of Turkey, one of his significant lies which got us brexit. For once the media had copies of his speeches, funny how liars always forget.
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    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    Are you sure of that, if it is then we are truly fkuced.
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    Disgraceful

    Unfortunately, she is past it.
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    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    Terribly true. How the hell did we end up here! Cameron yesterday said he had "no regrets about the referendum " as he accepts leading a 750 million UK-Chinese investment fund, trotters up in his shepherds hut.
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    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    Absolutely nails it https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/18/europe-brexit-britain-state-politics-fit-for-purpose
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    Land Rover diesels

    I didn't, just listened to a snippet 3 or 4 years ago But anybody interested can look thro this site which has a number of posts about RR's
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    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    But the negotiations have never been negotiations, they have been a series of demands and a barrage of insults, bojo is today recommending to withhold our outstanding dues from the EU to make them do a quick FTA with us during the exit period and this man was Foreign Secretary. Trump has a lot to answer for . The EU are not going to do a deal, if they do they will have Salvini, Orban, Wilders, le Pen all lining up for the same. The UK out in the cold, struggling is going to be a salutary lesson to all the hard men in the EU who are trying to flex their muscles and what will it have cost the EU, the sales of a few BMW's and some wine, what do they gain, a few car manufacturing plants and a big chunk of the worlds financial services, secure in the knowledge that the UK will have to do a trade deal with them at some point in the next 2 years, like it or not. So they get their market back and keep the car plants and the banks. If I can be that Machiavellian I'm sure the Germans and the French are. Why ride to our rescue, it's win win for them, their populace complain about a downturn, they blame perfidious Albion. They have the UK tethered there as an example of how awkward life can be outside the EU, I should think Germany and France might get quite a kick out of that, De Gaulle did.
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    How is Trump doing so far?

    Yeah, all those 'skilled' line workers turning up to work on that fully automated robot assembly line putting together all those bits made in , Mexico and Panama and Canada. Selling all those German cars with none of the profits staying in USA, Make America great again
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    The (all new) Brexit Thread

    Well it looks like the leavers will get their dream, a no deal exit and a govt dominated by the far right, good. Then another 2 years of soap opera of replacing May, bojo popping up, Raab rediscovering cross channel ferries. Property prices are dropping nicely, there'll be a couple of rentals cheap I expect and free entertainment watching the brexiteers blame everyone except themselves, and I forgot, car prices will be even cheaper. It's going to be a laugh a minute. I've just given up, bring it on, there is no reasoning, there is no rationale, well lets get on with it
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