wombatinabox Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 We are winning: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/10/17/raise-citizenship-bill-or-take-cowards-approach-out-mckim-tells-dutton http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/punjabi/en/article/2017/10/16/relief-migrants-citizenship-bill-seems-doomed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali369829 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Let's see today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou8670 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I'm frustrated because we became eligible to apply on Friday. If this bill is thrown out then they'll be another flood of applications. I'm trying to get mine in today and can't get past page 6 on the online application as it's saying I'm notEligible but they haven't asked me any info about our permanent residency yet! I'm 120th in the queue on the phone grrr!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 20 minutes ago, Lou8670 said: I'm frustrated because we became eligible to apply on Friday. If this bill is thrown out then they'll be another flood of applications. I'm trying to get mine in today and can't get past page 6 on the online application as it's saying I'm not Eligible but they haven't asked me any info about our permanent residency yet! I'm 120th in the queue on the phone grrr! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Take a screenshots of the errors and save them for reference.. it could be system error, I applied last month without any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie937 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 36 minutes ago, Lou8670 said: I'm frustrated because we became eligible to apply on Friday. If this bill is thrown out then they'll be another flood of applications. I'm trying to get mine in today and can't get past page 6 on the online application as it's saying I'm not Eligible but they haven't asked me any info about our permanent residency yet! I'm 120th in the queue on the phone grrr! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lou8670 Please see attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari An Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 It looks like nothing going to happen today. The Minister might not bring the bill at all for voting. He doesn`t like to be told what he needs to do. And that will put all of us or any prospective applicant in a bad position again. If that happens, the legislation will be removed from the Senate notice paper, requiring the government to win a motion to restore it at a later stage. A later stage without a date it means longer waiting again. And knowing that the current Citizenship Regulations and Citizenship Policy hasn`t changed as yet, it is not fair to continue and block the processing of the applications until further notice. Not Fair Game from any point of view. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari An Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) I think a Paper Application is more secure. It might take somewhere a week to two months to receive the Acknowledgment Letter. And the official application date acknowledged by DIBP is the date you have signed your citizenship application. Edited October 17, 2017 by Ari An adding more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari An Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 In the Acknowledgement Letter I have received nothing is mentioned about the new requirements. It is a similar letter applicants before 20 April have received. By law this is how it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forces Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Dutton has to be the most arrogant guy roaming this world. He has a deadline but he doesn’t seem to be in any hurry. had he not been given this deadline, he would have sat on this bill for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie937 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Forces said: Dutton has to be the most arrogant guy roaming this world. He has a deadline but he doesn’t seem to be in any hurry. had he not been given this deadline, he would have sat on this bill for years. Needless to say, when I eventually get my citizenship, I will not be voting for Liberal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny_Drift Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Potato head probably won't bring the bill to a vote, that way in his limited mind he wouldn't have lost! The bill will simply be iced! If nothing happens by tomorrow he'll have little choice but to process frozen apps in accordance with current legislation! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou8670 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Lou8670 Please see attached Thanks Eddie but I already know this [emoji4]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou8670 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Potato head probably won't bring the bill to a vote, that way in his limited mind he wouldn't have lost! The bill will simply be iced! If nothing happens by tomorrow he'll have little choice but to process frozen apps in accordance with current legislation! That's what I think too which is why I want my application in asap. I know it'll take them an age to process the backlog but I don't want my application behind a bubble of people who may be able to apply who were told not to after 20April or delayed any further than necessary because I delayed submitting it [emoji20] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann-Pierre Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 If you are interested in following what is currently happening in the senate follow the red dynamic. https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Dynamic_Red For the moment the bill is still on schedule, but in fact I have some doubt that this will be debated. But it doesn't mean either that our situation is all resolved. Gosh, when I think about it, since I landed in australia, i went throught a real marathon in getting visas, making sacrifices and fivkng a lot to this country etc... and off course the last leg of the run had to be tricky and full of doubt. Gosh my application was ready on the monday but I couldn't upload my photo. So i said, No worries, will do it over the week end. They changed the rules on the thursday... damned! Perhaps one day we will remember this period and will smile at it... Well perhaps. Let's hope, we are almost there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali369829 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I think, Not enough time for debate, as well as voting. Coz dutton knows he can't win with that current form . It will be dump if senate not giving extra time today. "for getting extra time he need support " http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/10/18/mckim-doubles-down-dutton-citizenship-bill-runs-senate-deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praneet Singh Purewal Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Fellows .... This is my first post in this forum and on this thread. Have read through the excruciating details of the pain and heart ache this controversial bill has caused everyone involved. So i thought i should sign up and give in my 2 cents worth and share a bit of good news with you guys. I think the victory is in sight !!! Government has bowed down and introduced amendments of their own and one of the major ones is retrospective 20th April 2017 changes. http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/amend/r5914_amend_36be708a-a92a-4230-b764-e97b3d91311d/upload_pdf/B17GJ148.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf#search="legislation/amend/r5914_amend_36be708a-a92a-4230-b764-e97b3d91311d" Lets hope we get to pledge allegiance to Australia soon. Have a great day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_30032017 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 18 minutes ago, Praneet Singh Purewal said: Fellows .... This is my first post in this forum and on this thread. Have read through the excruciating details of the pain and heart ache this controversial bill has caused everyone involved. So i thought i should sign up and give in my 2 cents worth and share a bit of good news with you guys. I think the victory is in sight !!! Government has bowed down and introduced amendments of their own and one of the major ones is retrospective 20th April 2017 changes. http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/amend/r5914_amend_36be708a-a92a-4230-b764-e97b3d91311d/upload_pdf/B17GJ148.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf#search="legislation/amend/r5914_amend_36be708a-a92a-4230-b764-e97b3d91311d" Lets hope we get to pledge allegiance to Australia soon. Have a great day Thanks for the info. It seems to be for required level of English only. Is there any update on waiting period as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchy Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I am going to be eligible next month on November 28th 2017. This amendment means only the applicants which have already applied are going to be eligible under the old rules . I though the amendment was to give relief to all the people who were already permanent residents on 20th of april. 3 more years wait is so painful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliotkan Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dons_30032017 said: Thanks for the info. It seems to be for required level of English only. Is there any update on waiting period as well? Assume this does not mean the bill can therefore be passed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterson Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Elliotkan said: Assume this does not mean the bill can therefore be passed ? We will see tonight but unlikely it will pass, the amendments only address 2 issues, it only lowers the IELTS level to 5 which won't be sufficient to convince NXT and removes the "retrospective" aspect of the bill. NXT asked Dutton to revise the entire bill not just those 2 issues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny_Drift Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The change in wording re. 20 April in that proposed amendment is still suspect and could culminate in retro. application depending on the interpretation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali369829 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 If this amendment bill pass....commencement from 1 July 2018...so everyone safe coz nothing deal with 20th April. (so from 1july 2018, waiting period total 4years with permanent residency) but need to pass ? tonight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliotkan Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ali369829 said: If this amendment bill pass....commencement from 1 July 2018...so everyone safe coz nothing deal with 20th April. (so from 1july 2018, waiting period total 4years with permanent residency) but need to pass ? tonight I will be eligible to apply in May 2018 under the current rules - does this mean I will still be able to apply in next May if the amended one passed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali369829 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Should be..if it's pass. But I don't think dutton can win? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_hoomi Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Sad part is even it doesn't pass or even with the new amendment bill, it is going to be a long waiting time considering amount of applications on hold! But this new amendment bill was a win for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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