Guest Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Just how would jerry fund all of his promises especially with no EU funding to prop up the areas that need the money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Cut winter fuel allowance to UK nationals living abroad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 5 hours ago, kungfustu said: Its been well reported how bad Teresa Mays campaign was and it is fair to say she cocked up on a couple of issues......dementia tax and failing to attend the leaders debate etc etc......JC on the other hand had a blinding campaign........he started slow but was like a steam train towards the end........he has the backing of the unions and an independent group (momentum) mobilising students across the country.....utilising social media to band together voters even driving them to the polling stations so they can vote.....but with all that assistance and help he still finished 50 odd seats behind a poor, some might say pathetic conservative party......how on earth is he going to win......things can't really get much better for him.....can they? He had recently had his cabinet design, and his party gave him a vote of no confidence. He was subjected to a blistering hate campaign by most of the countries media. Everyone had written him off, and he lost by 2227 votes. He'll slaughter them in the sequel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Sunset said: Just how would jerry fund all of his promises especially with no EU funding to prop up the areas that need the money? It was costed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I have this image in my head that won't go away. Theresa May in a straight jacket in a rubber room, mumbling like a parrot, strong and stable, strong and stable, strong and stable.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celt Down Under Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 newjez, I like that image so much, I wish I could have given it another couple of "Likes". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 7 hours ago, simmo said: Cut winter fuel allowance to UK nationals living abroad. It can get freezing in spain in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Perthbum said: It can get freezing in spain in the winter. True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slean Wolfhead Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 So what is the process now? Just seen on the news that the Good Friday agreement specifically states that the UK Government shall be impartial (and the wording is absolutely crystal clear). This would mean that the DUP deal, which they now say they haven't agreed to, should be legitimately binned by Parliament upon reading of the Queen's speech, and then Corbyn should be given a chance to form a Government (and it is either agreed to or not...) or we go for another election? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 its like brexit all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slean Wolfhead Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 minute ago, simmo said: its like brexit all over again. It's a country fallen on it's arse, that's what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungfustu Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 12 hours ago, newjez said: He had recently had his cabinet design, and his party gave him a vote of no confidence. He was subjected to a blistering hate campaign by most of the countries media. Everyone had written him off, and he lost by 2227 votes. He'll slaughter them in the sequel. you can't just "magic" students out of thin air......as it was momentum had to beg steal and borrow just about every student in the country......if the election had been held one week later 95% of those students would have been enjoying all of the conservative home comforts mum and dad worked so hard for.......at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenol Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Damn those students for expressing their democratic rights & voting in their interests. Good for them. The tories have been tossing bribes at the grey vote for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungfustu Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) I hope it never happens.....not a comrade Corbyn and comrade Mcdonnell government......it will be one of those deja vu moments......once he has nationalised all of the UK industries you will get ASLEFF demanding pay rises or their workers will strike.....then UNISON will demand a larger pay rise for their work force......if they are getting a pay rise of 10% UNITE will demand a 12% pay rise because inflation is pushing up the cost of living......you get the picture........then once all those students have graduated and several years down the line "come to their senses" they will all vote conservative and go about rebuilding and paying off the national debt....... Edited June 11, 2017 by kungfustu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenol Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, kungfustu said: I hope it never happens.....not a comrade Corbyn and comrade Mcdonnell government......it will be one of those deja vu moments......once he has nationalised all of the UK industries you will get ASLEFF demanding pay rises or their workers will strike.....then UNISON will demand a larger pay rise for their work force......if they are getting a pay rise of 10% UNITE will demand a 12% pay rise because inflation is pushing up the cost of living......you get the picture........then once all those students have graduated and several years down the line "come to their senses" they will all vote conservative and go about rebuilding and paying off the national debt....... Then I suggest you agitate for the Tories to be more inclusive and spread the economic pie more evenly vis a vis Germany. Young people have been shat on for years with tuition fees, housing and pay freezes while older Brits have been protected because they vote. Now you are whinging because the youngsters are biting back - too bad. Maybe what Corbyn is offering is unrealistic but he is offering them hope and change. The Tories offered them another 5 years of sugar coated excrement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 19 hours ago, simmo said: Cut winter fuel allowance to UK nationals living abroad. You're joshing me. Tell me they don't really have a fuel allowance? Please tell me that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungfustu Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Phenol said: Then I suggest you agitate for the Tories to be more inclusive and spread the economic pie more evenly vis a vis Germany. Young people have been shat on for years with tuition fees, housing and pay freezes while older Brits have been protected because they vote. Now you are whinging because the youngsters are biting back - too bad. Maybe what Corbyn is offering is unrealistic but he is offering them hope and change. The Tories offered them another 5 years of sugar coated excrement. Yeh lets all vote for something thats "unrealistic" makes perfect sense in the world of champagne socialism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungfustu Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 "Strong and stable!" wasn't you paying attention! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenol Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, kungfustu said: Yeh lets all vote for something thats "unrealistic" makes perfect sense in the world of champagne socialism Not been watching politics this year mate? Trump promised an actual wall across North America, a Muslim ban and bring back a dead coal industry. The Tories promised full access to the single market & complete control on immigration - total nonsense. People want change - it does not matter if that is unrealistic. He promised not to crap on them as has been the case with everyone else - you would have done the same in their position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungfustu Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Phenol said: Not been watching politics this year mate? Trump promised an actual wall across North America, a Muslim ban and bring back a dead coal industry. The Tories promised full access to the single market & complete control on immigration - total nonsense. People want change - it does not matter if that is unrealistic. He promised not to crap on them as has been the case with everyone else - you would have done the same in their position. Don't need too......I just come on here and listen to all the resident experts.....they really know their stuff LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 3 hours ago, kungfustu said: you can't just "magic" students out of thin air......as it was momentum had to beg steal and borrow just about every student in the country......if the election had been held one week later 95% of those students would have been enjoying all of the conservative home comforts mum and dad worked so hard for.......at home. Labour are 5% ahead in the polls, which probably means they are 20% ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 3 hours ago, kungfustu said: I hope it never happens.....not a comrade Corbyn and comrade Mcdonnell government......it will be one of those deja vu moments......once he has nationalised all of the UK industries you will get ASLEFF demanding pay rises or their workers will strike.....then UNISON will demand a larger pay rise for their work force......if they are getting a pay rise of 10% UNITE will demand a 12% pay rise because inflation is pushing up the cost of living......you get the picture........then once all those students have graduated and several years down the line "come to their senses" they will all vote conservative and go about rebuilding and paying off the national debt....... You don't use southern rail I take it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritChickx Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 A handful of people I know voted on the basis that they've always voted for that party. They didnt bother to watch election debates or read manifestos... really amazes me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 6 hours ago, starlight7 said: You're joshing me. Tell me they don't really have a fuel allowance? Please tell me that. I kid you not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoDemocracy Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Why do so many Brits villify students, does everyone think that being a student is just some sinecure, so many of them are so stressed they just drop out and still have debt and nothing to show for it, many are having to produce assignments every 2 weeks on top of lectures, they have to get a 1:2 as a minum and now if they want to get into a GOOD job they need a Masters and then they get a good job they start paying off 50,000 worth of debt and if they get a job like teaching they don't earn enough to have to pay but that debt is always there which affects their ability to borrow, so with all of those pressures is it any wonder that they haven't bothered to vote, who were they going to vote for that made any difference for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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