jove Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 or more like $2 to €1 where your from Ok that is useful to know. I had been aiming to get about 90k as in Holland i am on around about 56k. I may not be able to get quite as good salary there in adelaide as i have here in holland. Will have to see how it pans out. Dont want to be another disgruntled pom beating a path back to holland LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Ropey HOFF Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Ok that is useful to know. I had been aiming to get about 90k as in Holland i am on around about 56k. I may not be able to get quite as good salary there in adelaide as i have here in holland. Will have to see how it pans out. Dont want to be another disgruntled pom beating a path back to holland LOL Your post is a very important post mate, it just illustrates how easy it is to find yourself in a difficult place when you emigrate, obviously not everyone earns the average Austalian wage, but if you are on €56k in Holland then $80k in Australia will be quite a bit less, i would have thought, what job are you doing? And have you googled what the equivalent wage is in Australia, they might be trying to get you on the cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieF8 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 $69,170 is the average wage in Oz http://memoricardo.wordpress.com/2012/02/23/69170-australias-average-wage/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jove Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I definately wont be taking a pay cut. I have my PR so in no immediate rush to go anywhere. My only gripe is my present job is driving me crazy. I would of perhaps taken a lower wage to have a job to move too after that look for a better paid one. Finding a job remotely is difficult. I work in the IT industry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol2Oz Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 $69,170 is the average wage in Oz http://memoricardo.wordpress.com/2012/02/23/69170-australias-average-wage/ What are the chances that a girl like me without any experience in mining or even trades (I can't even fry an egg tbh), can take up a mining career, which earns 300K? :jimlad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jove Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 yeah ideally i want 90k to move too. but would of accepted 70 -80 k short term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jove Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 What are the chances that a girl like me without any experience in mining or even trades (I can't even fry an egg tbh), can take up a mining career, which earns 300K? :jimlad: if you manage can you get me a job too! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieF8 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 What are the chances that a girl like me without any experience in mining or even trades (I can't even fry an egg tbh), can take up a mining career, which earns 300K? :jimlad: If you want to start off on $90k and work your way up..... http://westjobs.com.au/jobseeker/mining-jobs-no-experience.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jove Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 If you want to start off on $90k and work your way up..... http://westjobs.com.au/jobseeker/mining-jobs-no-experience.html You reckon these people hire IT professionals. Man I need to get 300k LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol2Oz Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 You reckon these people hire IT professionals. Man I need to get 300kLOLIT professional? HA! I don't want to do anything that involves using my brain, I just want to drive a truck to and fro while I listen to hundreds of songs on my mp3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Just a reminder to keep to the OP please - Feel free to start another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 What are the chances that a girl like me without any experience in mining or even trades (I can't even fry an egg tbh), can take up a mining career, which earns 300K? :jimlad: Zero. We have vacancies for cleaners at the moment. $52k a year working 12 hour days split shifts 2 weeks on 1 week off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trasi Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Hi Im flying to the central coast on 25 aug. we are a family of 6. i am a nurse and will be on the average wage plus ovetime, unsocial hours etc. i will be the only earner til my OH finds work. We are going because for us, life is sh7t here. I lost my job after 24 yrs in the NHS, and along with many other things, we thought why not..... lifes too short, lets give it a go..... i personally do not like the UK at the moment, for my family it offers nothing and i only see it gettin worse. Infact as im sitting here typing this, the BBC news are talking about our economy being flatlined and triple recession on its way Will i struggle out there ? maybe, who knows.... but life is one hell of a struggle here at the moment, so i am losing nothing. I dont expect a life of luxury out there, we have never had that and we are just happy to live a normal, 'plod on' life. Will we come back ? who knows, you can never say never, but the UK would have had to have greatly improved before i would consider it...... The reasons we'd come back would probably be missing family and my kids not settling....... We are going with the mindset that it is for 2 years, and we will see what we do after that.......... I think if you feel its right, go for it, thats what we are doing and who knows what the future will bring.... you make your future to a certain degree, so set it as you wish. Bills in Oz certainly dont worry me, they almost seem cheap compared to here... £240 council tax month, £120 elect month, £160 Gas monthly (£200 month in winter)...... !! and thats before you start to live ! Good luck with whatever you decide xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GoldCoastMag Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Having been an expat in more than one country, my experience of settling is more mundane. Moving to a foreign country is challenging, it is also for some exciting, an adventure and a lifechanging event. Sometimes it seems more difficult settling in a new country if some things are similar to your home country, and they may be, or there may be some slight difference that you may not realise immediately. I found it frustrating not knowing how things work. Sending packages from a post office seems like it would be the same and asking for help or calling places for information and having trouble understanding and being understood, I know it isnt racist but some people put it down to this. Another frustration is not being able to find the foods or things that you are used to, or paying extreme prices eg the ribena comment (even though there are other blackcurrant fruit juices). This takes a while to adjust to, OH is still adjusting his wants to what we are able to access without resorting to care packages from "home". The first couple of years takes an extraordinary amount of patience and angst as all the old and familiar is gradually replaced by new, different "familiars" until eventually, (in my case) I would have trouble settling in my birth country. It all depends on your outlook whether you decide your life is better there or here and you can still choose where you want to live after you have given it some time, and dont forget Australia is a big place with many areas of different climate and areas, if the first spot you land doesnt suit, maybe another one will. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjinky Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Just interested, are you planning on staying in Oz or relocating back to the UK? moving back in october Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Ali has already posted a warning on this thread and posts have been deleted, let's get back on topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsitallabout Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 HiIm flying to the central coast on 25 aug. we are a family of 6. i am a nurse and will be on the average wage plus ovetime, unsocial hours etc. i will be the only earner til my OH finds work. We are going because for us, life is sh7t here. I lost my job after 24 yrs in the NHS, and along with many other things, we thought why not..... lifes too short, lets give it a go..... i personally do not like the UK at the moment, for my family it offers nothing and i only see it gettin worse. Infact as im sitting here typing this, the BBC news are talking about our economy being flatlined and triple recession on its way Will i struggle out there ? maybe, who knows.... but life is one hell of a struggle here at the moment, so i am losing nothing. I dont expect a life of luxury out there, we have never had that and we are just happy to live a normal, 'plod on' life. Will we come back ? who knows, you can never say never, but the UK would have had to have greatly improved before i would consider it...... The reasons we'd come back would probably be missing family and my kids not settling....... We are going with the mindset that it is for 2 years, and we will see what we do after that.......... I think if you feel its right, go for it, thats what we are doing and who knows what the future will bring.... you make your future to a certain degree, so set it as you wish. Bills in Oz certainly dont worry me, they almost seem cheap compared to here... £240 council tax month, £120 elect month, £160 Gas monthly (£200 month in winter)...... !! and thats before you start to live ! Good luck with whatever you decide xx Your post was spot on to our reasons for coming here had our own business back in the uk that we were really struggling to keep afloat, the cost of bills, mortage & every day living in the UK was a struggle. We thought the same nothing ventured nothing gained. Was bloody hard to start with finding your feet, making new friends, finding work, but we kept going we knew the 1st 2 years will be hard. Am glad we didn't give up as 3 years later as worked out really well for us as a family & was the best decision we have made! Everyone has a different journey here, for us it worked in our favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blobby1000 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 hey hoff do you think 70-80 k is enough for a good life in Adelaide? Why are you asking him? Hes a nice guy Im sure and got a great sense of humour but he has only been here on holiday!!! He is not the Australian oracle, hes the Australia visitor!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheArmChairDetective Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) ............... Didn't Ali AND Kate just ask us to keep on topic? Hi all, My wife and I are in the process of upping sticks with 4 kids to move to Victoria - my wife has a job offer in "whoop whoop land" as my friend from Melbourne calls it. What I would like to know, so we are prepared, are the reasons people return to the UK so we know what we are getting into and hopefully can prepare for these problems. I know homesickness will be number one on the list - so it's the other stuff I'm more interested in. Please be honest and say it like it is - I want to know the real downsides of life in Oz for a married couple with 4 kids (aged 2-12) compared to our current UK life. I would imagine the worst thing will be psychological. Not home sickness more of new home sickness. Having lived in other countries and moved on (bit like a gypsy i suppose) the main thing will be "fitting in" and it won't actually be what others think, it will be you thinking that you don't. I think you will need to keep a positive head on your shoulders, believe that you do fit in. If you were not wanted you wouldn't have got a visa in the first place. You are right to try to identify the negatives though so that you can keep them at arms length and enjoy your new life. Edited August 9, 2012 by TheArmChairDetective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blobby1000 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) HiIm flying to the central coast on 25 aug. we are a family of 6. i am a nurse and will be on the average wage plus ovetime, unsocial hours etc. i will be the only earner til my OH finds work. We are going because for us, life is sh7t here. I lost my job after 24 yrs in the NHS, and along with many other things, we thought why not..... lifes too short, lets give it a go..... i personally do not like the UK at the moment, for my family it offers nothing and i only see it gettin worse. Infact as im sitting here typing this, the BBC news are talking about our economy being flatlined and triple recession on its way Will i struggle out there ? maybe, who knows.... but life is one hell of a struggle here at the moment, so i am losing nothing. I dont expect a life of luxury out there, we have never had that and we are just happy to live a normal, 'plod on' life. Will we come back ? who knows, you can never say never, but the UK would have had to have greatly improved before i would consider it...... The reasons we'd come back would probably be missing family and my kids not settling....... We are going with the mindset that it is for 2 years, and we will see what we do after that.......... I think if you feel its right, go for it, thats what we are doing and who knows what the future will bring.... you make your future to a certain degree, so set it as you wish. Bills in Oz certainly dont worry me, they almost seem cheap compared to here... £240 council tax month, £120 elect month, £160 Gas monthly (£200 month in winter)...... !! and thats before you start to live ! Good luck with whatever you decide xx I think its important to let you know that this is in no way a cheap country. I does depend on where you live, but here in Victoria you need to pay at the very least $400,000 for a 3 bedroom house (in a fairly bad area) Electic bills are around $300 a month (due to poor insulation and heating systems) A second hand car will cost you a small fortune, it then costs $500 plus a year to register it. It costs $250 to get your teeth checked at the dentist. Medicare covers GP costs (at generally quite poor practices with long waits) but any specialist treatments cost money ($220 for my 2 year old son to see someone about a sore leg, for 5 minutes) Rent is very expensive (at least $350 a week for poor quality housing) Groceries for a family of 4 will cost you over $300 a week in general. A paperback novel will cost you $30, a CD $26. A small glass of wine will cost you $8 and a pint $9. Petrol is cheaper......thats about it. Oh and if you exceed the speed limt by 1.8 mph you get a $153 fine and camaras are EVERYWHERE. However, as a nurse (like me) you will be earning spectacularly good money, upwards of $80k a year and this does balance things out, but things are expensive. I must say, you will need about $100k a year to live a good life (by which I mean have enough to pay for everything and save a little and have a holiday each year) We have been better off here financially, but I just wanted to let you know that its not cheap either Edited August 9, 2012 by blobby1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsitallabout Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I think its important to let you know that this is in no way a cheap country. I does depend on where you live, but here in Victoria you need to pay at the very least $400,000 for a 3 bedroom house (in a fairly bad area) Electic bills are around $300 a month (due to poor insulation and heating systems) A second hand car will cost you a small fortune, it then costs $500 plus a year to register it. It costs $250 to get your teeth checked at the dentist. Medicare covers GP costs (at generally quite poor practices with long waits) but any specialist treatments cost money ($220 for my 2 year old son to see someone about a sore leg, for 5 minutes) Rent is very expensive (at least $350 a week for poor quality housing) Groceries for a family of 4 will cost you over $300 a week in general. A paperback novel will cost you $30, a CD $26. A small glass of wine will cost you $8 and a pint $9. Petrol is cheaper......thats about it. Oh and if you exceed the speed limt by 1.8 mph you get a $153 fine and camaras are EVERYWHERE. However, as a nurse (like me) you will be earning spectacularly good money, upwards of $80k a year and this does balance things out, but things are expensive. I must say, you will need about $100k a year to live a good life (by which I mean have enough to pay for everything and save a little and have a holiday each year) We have been better off here financially, but I just wanted to let you know that its not cheap either Most people do realise that its not going to be easy!!! I think the cost of living here actually cheaper then the UK! It also depends oh how your lifestyle is. There is good & bad in each country I sometimes find your posts very negative against Australia buts that just my opinion. We struggled like hell back home & we are certainly in a better position now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish.01 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 FYI, not all specialist treatment costs money...you can go to a public specialist like the NHS, only private specialists cost money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinsmom65 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 The reasons to leave Oz will be as individual as the reasons to move to Oz. For some it will be the pull of family and friends, for others it will be job losses or unable to find employment. For some it may even be that they feel they don't fit with their new country (that sense of belonging). I think it is good to look at the good and the bad. No one person that has returned to the UK has set out on the emigration process with the mindset that oh I am moving to Oz and I am gonna hate it. At one point everyone that moved to Oz and returned started their journey off with the same excitement and enthusiasm. It is not until you are actually living here, that you determine whether the move was the right one. My advice to anyone is to still make the move and find out for yourself. If you love it here, and settle, good on ya, if you move back to the UK that is fine as well. As the old saying goes nothing ventured, nothing gained. Cheers Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiled in Wales Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) I think its important to let you know that this is in no way a cheap country. I does depend on where you live, but here in Victoria you need to pay at the very least $400,000 for a 3 bedroom house (in a fairly bad area) Electic bills are around $300 a month (due to poor insulation and heating systems) A second hand car will cost you a small fortune, it then costs $500 plus a year to register it. It costs $250 to get your teeth checked at the dentist. Medicare covers GP costs (at generally quite poor practices with long waits) but any specialist treatments cost money ($220 for my 2 year old son to see someone about a sore leg, for 5 minutes) Rent is very expensive (at least $350 a week for poor quality housing) Groceries for a family of 4 will cost you over $300 a week in general. A paperback novel will cost you $30, a CD $26. A small glass of wine will cost you $8 and a pint $9. Petrol is cheaper......thats about it. Oh and if you exceed the speed limt by 1.8 mph you get a $153 fine and camaras are EVERYWHERE. However, as a nurse (like me) you will be earning spectacularly good money, upwards of $80k a year and this does balance things out, but things are expensive. I must say, you will need about $100k a year to live a good life (by which I mean have enough to pay for everything and save a little and have a holiday each year) We have been better off here financially, but I just wanted to let you know that its not cheap either Blobby1000 - this is excellent stuff thanks, now I know to keep to the speed limit and quickly identify what Ozzie speedcameras look like. What about beer from the off licence or supermarket - I can't afford $9 a pint !!! Also as part of my wifes job offer she gets a car - just so I can evaluate how much this is worth, how much would a second hand car cost us in OZ (rough figures but how much is "a small fortune") and how much is insurance - coz all this is covered with the company car but we will need a small second hand bus (we have a Zafira at present) for when we all want to go out (family of 6). So far I have learnt - take Ribena with us (although other fruit based squash is available) & stick to the speed limits at all costs. It's much nicer to learn this way than learn by getting a $153 fine! Edited August 9, 2012 by exiled in Wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trasi Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I think its important to let you know that this is in no way a cheap country. I does depend on where you live, but here in Victoria you need to pay at the very least $400,000 for a 3 bedroom house (in a fairly bad area) Electic bills are around $300 a month (due to poor insulation and heating systems) A second hand car will cost you a small fortune, it then costs $500 plus a year to register it. It costs $250 to get your teeth checked at the dentist. Medicare covers GP costs (at generally quite poor practices with long waits) but any specialist treatments cost money ($220 for my 2 year old son to see someone about a sore leg, for 5 minutes) Rent is very expensive (at least $350 a week for poor quality housing) Groceries for a family of 4 will cost you over $300 a week in general. A paperback novel will cost you $30, a CD $26. A small glass of wine will cost you $8 and a pint $9. Petrol is cheaper......thats about it. Oh and if you exceed the speed limt by 1.8 mph you get a $153 fine and camaras are EVERYWHERE. However, as a nurse (like me) you will be earning spectacularly good money, upwards of $80k a year and this does balance things out, but things are expensive. I must say, you will need about $100k a year to live a good life (by which I mean have enough to pay for everything and save a little and have a holiday each year) We have been better off here financially, but I just wanted to let you know that its not cheap either Thank you for your honesty..... looks like i will be doing lots of overtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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