MELBNGSM Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, LindaH27 said: A 3 year 600 visa is different to a one year tourist visa which allows 90 days a time which is what the original poster was asking about. Thanks for pointing it out and well done on your attention to delail if it pleases you :) I leave it up to the poster to decide if they want 1 year visa and go for medicals etc evey year. Or rather have 3 year visa. Edited February 17, 2020 by MELBNGSM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYNL20 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 58 minutes ago, MELBNGSM said: I dont see anything wrong with this. My parents have been coming and going from Australia since Oct 2015 and we applied for their CPV143 in April'16. In my parents case they were getting a 3 year Subclass 600 (long stay tourist). 1 year every 18 months. Maintain Health No work No further stay Max 3 months study We made sure they were always obeying the visa conditions. One more thing: I have a sister in NZ . So one time my Mom got her 600 renewed there and she got this condition 12 months / visit ..... as opposed to 1 year every 18 months. All the best in your 143 journey. That’s encouraging. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYNL20 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Tulip1 said: Did you speak to a migrant agent. They really would be the best people to ask about this sort of thing. I reckon your plan would quickly flag up that you are perhaps not a genuine tourist but I don’t actually know. How did the ‘experts’ respond when you questioned the advice they had given you? Assume you pass the balance of family test? We sorted out that my daughter’s partner can sponsor me. I am just waiting on one more reply. I am also arranging a consultation with another specialist just to be on the safe side and then I will make a decision which one to go with. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYNL20 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, NYNL20 said: We sorted out that my daughter’s partner can sponsor me. I am just waiting on one more reply. I am also arranging a consultation with another specialist just to be on the safe side and then I will make a decision which one to go with. Thanks. And as only one child - balance of family not an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip1 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, NYNL20 said: And as only one child - balance of family not an issue. I wish you the best of luck with it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH27 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, MELBNGSM said: Thanks for pointing it out and well done on your attention to delail if it pleases you :) I leave it up to the poster to decide if they want 1 year visa and go for medicals etc evey year. Or rather have 3 year visa. Each to their own of course but some people only want to see what they want to see.:) I did suggest 600 visa One year visa does not require Medicals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, NYNL20 said: We sorted out that my daughter’s partner can sponsor me. I am just waiting on one more reply. I am also arranging a consultation with another specialist just to be on the safe side and then I will make a decision which one to go with. Thanks. This is actually really important information. What you're saying is that if you have a son or daughter who's married to an Aussie, you don't have to wait until your child qualifies - your child's partner can sponsor their in-laws. That's huge! Maybe @Alan Collett can comment to confirm? Edited February 17, 2020 by Marisawright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MELBNGSM Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, LindaH27 said: Each to their own of course but some people only want to see what they want to see.:) I did suggest 600 visa One year visa does not require Medicals Linda - Thanks for providing valuable information to other forum users. I am providing my own experience to people who have asked questions about 143 applications. When we applied it was going to be processed in 18 months allegedly. Now we are at 45 months mark and still waiting. So to have my parents come and go live with us we have been using 600 long stay tourist visa. For 1 year visa if you happen to stay in Australia longer than 6 months and the Forum member asked if they try to be here 6 months slots. They will have to do medicals. Also it should be noted that 1 year visa does not always comes with 90 day stay per visit condition. Thanks for your support to other members! And all the best in you 143 journey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MELBNGSM Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marisawright said: This is actually really important information. What you're saying is that if you have a son or daughter who's married to an Aussie, you don't have to wait until your child qualifies - your child's partner can sponsor their in-laws. That's huge! Maybe @Alan Collett can comment to confirm? My 2 cents for this one. Firstly balance of family is for your children for 143 visa . So that is not an issue in this case being the only child and assuming this child is PR/Citizen of AUS. The issue is of sponsoring / AOS . This is where financials matter more. So if your child does not earn the income to support you then their partner can sponsor and if I am not wrong even a community can sponsor. "Arranging a consultation with another specialist" is the way to go for sponsorship matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MELBNGSM said: Firstly balance of family is for your children for 143 visa . So that is not an issue in this case being the only child and assuming this child is PR/Citizen of AUS. The issue is of sponsoring / AOS . This is where financials matter more. So if your child does not earn the income to support you then their partner can sponsor That's what I always thought. In @NYNL20's case, her daughter doesn't have PR yet. Some of us warned her that she wouldn't be eligible to even apply until the daughter has PR and has fulfilled the residency requirement. Her response has been that "the partner can sponsor" so it's OK. But as you say, I always understood they were two separate things. Edited February 17, 2020 by Marisawright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH27 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, MELBNGSM said: Linda - Thanks for providing valuable information to other forum users. I am providing my own experience to people who have asked questions about 143 applications. When we applied it was going to be processed in 18 months allegedly. Now we are at 45 months mark and still waiting. So to have my parents come and go live with us we have been using 600 long stay tourist visa. For 1 year visa if you happen to stay in Australia longer than 6 months and the Forum member asked if they try to be here 6 months slots. They will have to do medicals. Also it should be noted that 1 year visa does not always comes with 90 day stay per visit condition. Thanks for your support to other members! And all the best in you 143 journey The poster was not asking for a 6 months stay in one go but rather one which allows 90 days per visit - this does not require a medical. Even for stay of 6 months if you live in UK it’s considered low risk and therefore For a 6 month visa a medical would not be required - as shown in your screenshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH27 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Marisawright said: That's what I always thought. In @NYNL20's case, her daughter doesn't have PR yet. Some of us warned her that she wouldn't be eligible to even apply until the daughter has PR and has fulfilled the residency requirement. Her response has been that "the partner can sponsor" so it's OK. But as you say, I always understood they were two separate things. I always thought the sponsor had to be an eligible child ! The partner could help with AOS but not with the original application just my reading of the criteria ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MELBNGSM Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LindaH27 said: The poster was not asking for a 6 months stay in one go but rather one which allows 90 days per visit - this does not require a medical. Even for stay of 6 months if you live in UK it’s considered low risk and therefore For a 6 month visa a medical would not be required - as shown in your screenshot The poster is happy with the response I have given. Are you happy ? Edited February 17, 2020 by MELBNGSM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH27 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 im Happy with my understanding of the criteria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MELBNGSM Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Marisawright said: That's what I always thought. In @NYNL20's case, her daughter doesn't have PR yet. Some of us warned her that she wouldn't be eligible to even apply until the daughter has PR and has fulfilled the residency requirement. Her response has been that "the partner can sponsor" so it's OK. But as you say, I always understood they were two separate things. Balance of Family test interpetation seems wrong here and not to be confused with Sponsorship/AOS (financial support). Use Link: https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/contributory-aged-parent-864/balance-of-family-test Meaning of ‘eligible child' and 'ineligible child' A child is an eligible child if they are: an Australian citizen, or an Australian permanent resident usually resident in Australia, or an eligible New Zealand citizen usually resident in Australia Any other child of the parent is an ineligible child. An ineligible child is taken to be resident overseas. We don't consider children who are in Australia on a temporary visa as usually resident in Australia. If a child’s whereabouts are unknown, we consider they are resident in their last known usual country of residence. Eligible New Zealand citizens You are an eligible New Zealand citizen if you arrived in Australia on a New Zealand passport and were: in Australia on 26 February 2001 and were a special category visa (SCV) holder on that day, or in Australia for a period or periods totalling 12 months in the 2 years immediately before 26 February 2001, and returned to Australia after that day assessed as protected SCV holders before 26 February 2001 Edited February 17, 2020 by MELBNGSM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theballies Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 I feel like the current conversation going on here would be better off an the main parent visa thread, as this one is meant to be timeline related. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYNL20 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, LindaH27 said: I always thought the sponsor had to be an eligible child ! The partner could help with AOS but not with the original application just my reading of the criteria See attached that I received from Migration specialist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYNL20 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, theballies said: I feel like the current conversation going on here would be better off an the main parent visa thread, as this one is meant to be timeline related. Sorry, will not reply to any more posts and will head over to main thread thanks Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusieRoo Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Marisawright said: This is actually really important information. What you're saying is that if you have a son or daughter who's married to an Aussie, you don't have to wait until your child qualifies - your child's partner can sponsor their in-laws. That's huge! Maybe @Alan Collett can comment to confirm? I think we are all getting pulled down a rabbit hole here. To qualify for a parent visa you have to be a parent of an Australian citizen or PR, you can’t just borrow someone to stand in as a substitute child. Sponsorship for AoS is something completely separate and should not be confused with eligibility for a visa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SusieRoo said: I think we are all getting pulled down a rabbit hole here. To qualify for a parent visa you have to be a parent of an Australian citizen or PR, you can’t just borrow someone to stand in as a substitute child. Sponsorship for AoS is something completely separate and should not be confused with eligibility for a visa. Needed clarifying. Please don’t forget posters that the parent visa threads are all about supporting each other, and giving advice in a kind way. It’s a stressful emotional journey to PR. Edited February 17, 2020 by ramot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Collett Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 For a matter of technical and pivotal significance that is going to be relied upon can I respectfully recommend paying a migration professional for a written opinion. Best regards. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, SusieRoo said: I think we are all getting pulled down a rabbit hole here. To qualify for a parent visa you have to be a parent of an Australian citizen or PR, you can’t just borrow someone to stand in as a substitute child. Sponsorship for AoS is something completely separate and should not be confused with eligibility for a visa. Yes, that's why I queried it. I do hope the poster in question gets a second opinion on it because it doesn't sound right to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusieRoo Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Marisawright said: Yes, that's why I queried it. I do hope the poster in question gets a second opinion on it because it doesn't sound right to me. To be honest, I think I am wrong about this and the OP is actually eligible to apply for a 143 parent visa. Have a look at this ( https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2004A01090 ) and let me know what you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, Alan Collett said: For a matter of technical and pivotal significance that is going to be relied upon can I respectfully recommend paying a migration professional for a written opinion. Best regards. Always if in doubt don’t rely on anyone other than a professional irrespective of advice given with the best of intentions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SusieRoo said: To be honest, I think I am wrong about this and the OP is actually eligible to apply for a 143 parent visa. Have a look at this ( https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2004A01090 ) and let me know what you think? I see what you mean and I'm sorry Alan didn't feel able to clarify the general rule for us. I am NOT asking for clarification to help this particular poster with their specific case. I'm asking because I'm sure there are many parents sitting patiently waiting for their child to get PR and fulfil the residence requirements: this seems to say that if the child is married to an Australian citizen, they don't have to wait. That would be really important information if it's true Edited February 18, 2020 by Marisawright 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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