Toots Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Have you seen this Barry? If not it may have some of the info you require. Australian Embassy/Russian Federation. https://russia.embassy.gov.au/mscw/visa_partner.html If you have read it previously I don't think it is necessary to ask for anymore info on this forum. You seem to know everything already. Edited July 2, 2019 by Toots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 37 minutes ago, barry said: as my highly intelligent daughter said " of course an agent will give many reasons why using him or her increases the chance of a successful outcome as it is his living but it is hardly an independant view " . i gave a few reasons in earlier post reasons why some people might wish to use an agent and good luck to them. I never use agents and always do own conveyancing saving myself many thousands of dollars over the years . An agent is just as likely or more likely to make an error as an applicant and , according to one post , a small inadvertant error can lead to a refusal - I seriously doubt that ! If so , even more vital to do the whole job yourself chaecking and re-checking every entry which an agent would not of course have time to do if he or she had a busy workload . where an agent might be useful is to give advice or his opinion on a matter which applicant wants a seciond opinion paying for time agent spends on the matter . Talk about reiterating the same thing - pot kettle black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 57 minutes ago, barry said: Marisa , you are just repeating the samw words you said earlier No, I am not. I have provided you with new information and new explanations to amplify my earlier comments, but it's obvious it is all falling on deaf ears. You've convinced yourself the Immigration official will be nice to you and excuse you from providing evidence. You choose to believe that, good luck to you. Do come back and let us know what happens. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Marisawright said: No, I am not. I have provided you with new information and new explanations to amplify my earlier comments, but it's obvious it is all falling on deaf ears. You've convinced yourself the Immigration official will be nice to you and excuse you from providing evidence. You choose to believe that, good luck to you. Do come back and let us know what happens. now you are being infantile and talking MNONSENSE and shows what you are all about ! iDid I ever say I need not provide evidence ? Stop making such silly comments . I notice you dod not answer my question about the thread but just keep repeating what you have said and pushing the agents . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Toots said: Have you seen this Barry? If not it may have some of the info you require. Australian Embassy/Russian Federation. https://russia.embassy.gov.au/mscw/visa_partner.html If you have read it previously I don't think it is necessary to ask for anymore info on this forum. You seem to know everything already. I will read it later thanks . Of course I do not know everything and not sure why you say that . Just because I never use agents does not mean I know it all but beither do agents who make conflicting statements . anyone reading the notes on government sites knows just ] about everytjhing as they say clearly what type of EVIDENCE is needed . it makes Marisa's comments about me quite ludicrous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Toots said: Have you seen this Barry? If not it may have some of the info you require. Australian Embassy/Russian Federation. https://russia.embassy.gov.au/mscw/visa_partner.html If you have read it previously I don't think it is necessary to ask for anymore info on this forum. You seem to know everything already. I think that link will explain that visa centre is now in serbia I think but no longer necessary to submit application in person nowadays as done online . I think the rules and requirements are the same as devised in OZ and all embassies must comply. If I am wrong ,, pleaase tell me and did you sponsor a russian lady yourself if not impertitant to ask ? you are correct about this forum where every question is answered by saying " get an agent as sounds complicated " ! ( smile ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Toots said: Have you seen this Barry? If not it may have some of the info you require. Australian Embassy/Russian Federation. https://russia.embassy.gov.au/mscw/visa_partner.html If you have read it previously I don't think it is necessary to ask for anymore info on this forum. You seem to know everything already. I think that link is quite old Toots and refernce to march 2017 and embassy in Moscow . is it so please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Marisawright said: No, I am not. I have provided you with new information and new explanations to amplify my earlier comments, but it's obvious it is all falling on deaf ears. You've convinced yourself the Immigration official will be nice to you and excuse you from providing evidence. You choose to believe that, good luck to you. Do come back and let us know what happens. by the way , what is your motive by talking nonsen se about visa officer being nice to me and my wife and about NOT needing to provide evidence ? Or do you just enjoy insulting me ? ( wry smile ) . It seems to be about just scoring points with you and acting for agents -comes across like that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 12 hours ago, ali said: Respectfully - when you started the thread looking for advice, what were you hoping people would say/advise you? You seem to have taken umbrage because the advice hasn't been what you've wanted to hear. respectfully i had hoped for a comment or advice on a sp;ecific matter but almost every reply included a suggestion to contact an agent . what advice given are you referring to , advice to get an agent ? i do not take umbrage to use your word but did not come on thread to be told about agentgs as fully aware they exist and of course constantly looking for new business which is understandable . But constantly being advised to contact an agent is mildly irritating with respect . sorry for typing errors . One lie about me saying I did not need to supply evidence is going too far as OF COURSE I never said or intimated that . EVIDENCE is the key to a successful application as anyone knows ! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Toots said: Have you seen this Barry? If not it may have some of the info you require. Australian Embassy/Russian Federation. https://russia.embassy.gov.au/mscw/visa_partner.html If you have read it previously I don't think it is necessary to ask for anymore info on this forum. You seem to know everything already. yes, it is obselete Toots and even the links give the well know ERROR 404 mesage . Anyway , thanks for trying to help sport . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, barry said: respectfully i had hoped for a comment or advice on a sp;ecific matter but almost every reply included a suggestion to contact an agent . what advice given are you referring to , advice to get an agent ? i do not take umbrage to use your word but did not come on thread to be told about agentgs as fully aware they exist and of course constantly looking for new business which is understandable . But constantly being advised to contact an agent is mildly irritating with respect . sorry for typing errors . One lie about me saying I did not need to supply evidence is going too far as OF COURSE I never said or intimated that . EVIDENCE is the key to a successful application as anyone knows ! Thanks I think the reality is Barry that you've probably burned your bridges with many of the more knowledgeable members offering any advice/assistance. I wish you well in your visa application and hope it proves to be as easy as you suggest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, ali said: I think the reality is Barry that you've probably burned your bridges with many of the more knowledgeable members offering any advice/assistance. I wish you well in your visa application and hope it proves to be as easy as you suggest. that is irrelevant as nobody gave advice or assistance on an issue as you know if you read the responses apart from TOOTS unless you say that recommending an agent is "advice" ! Why do you tell a lie by saying i suggested is is an easy process ??. I never said that as obviopusly much preparatory work and I went through it years ago and no problems encountered . So if you wish to be critical of me you can but do not misquote me please . Thanks . it will be quite a while before my wife submits her application and she can do most of it herself anyway with my input as she is fluent in English language and highly intelligent . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, barry said: that is irrelevant as nobody gave advice or assistance on an issue as you know if you read the responses apart from TOOTS unless you say that recommending an agent is "advice" ! Why do you tell a lie by saying i suggested is is an easy process ??. I never said that as obviopusly much preparatory work and I went through it years ago and no problems encountered . So if you wish to be critical of me you can but do not misquote me please . Thanks . it will be quite a while before my wife submits her application and she can do most of it herself anyway with my input as she is fluent in English language and highly intelligent . I think we will have to agree to disagree, as I thing that people suggesting you consult an agent is advice, but obviously one you've not welcomed (in the four pages of this thread). People have pointed out that although you did not encounter problems "years ago" - rules have changed. Again I wish you good luck with your wife's application and hope that you don't encounter any difficulties. I do apologise for one assumption though - I thought you were posting from Aus, but you seem to be posting from the UK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Honestly I don't know how many red flags you need before you think maybe expert advise would be helpful. Russia / not living together / never lived together / applicant who thinks he has all the answers. Some people just won't listen. Edited July 2, 2019 by Jon the Hat 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 40 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Honestly I don't know how many red flags you need before you think maybe expert advise would be helpful. Russia / not living together / never lived together / applicant who thinks he has all the answers. Some people just won't listen. Not into red flags or blue flags as I am a Lib Dem ! maybe should learn to listen and to understand plain English . of course my wife and I would have lived together at time visa application is lodged and yet another post suggesting an agent who is not necessarily an expert .lET IT DROP PLEASE !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, ali said: I think we will have to agree to disagree, as I thing that people suggesting you consult an agent is advice, but obviously one you've not welcomed (in the four pages of this thread). People have pointed out that although you did not encounter problems "years ago" - rules have changed. Again I wish you good luck with your wife's application and hope that you don't encounter any difficulties. I do apologise for one assumption though - I thought you were posting from Aus, but you seem to be posting from the UK yes , I am in Uk which is reason I must adopt a different strategy in conjunction with my daughter . apology accepted . rules change every year of course but there have been no major changes as you might know apart from one not yet introduced , ie sponsor assessment . The other fairly recent one is that sponsor also needs p;olice certificate as well as applicant . For me, suggesting I consult an agent is NOT really advice and fails to answer a specific question I might ask hoping somebody had a similar minor problem . Of course I know agents exist and do not need telling me it is so as if I am too dim to know it ! ( smile ) . When every response pushed me to an agent , it gets a bit irritating even if I was a saint which I am not . It equates to brexiteers here repeating the same nonsense again and again based on what they have seen in Murdoch right wing rags and other rags , ie slogans and soundbits . thanks for good wishes when we commence the process later this year or early next year after seeing more European countries and much more here in "pommyland" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 hours ago, barry said: Not into red flags or blue flags as I am a Lib Dem ! maybe should learn to listen and to understand plain English . of course my wife and I would have lived together at time visa application is lodged and yet another post suggesting an agent who is not necessarily an expert .lET IT DROP PLEASE !! Lib Dem? That explains the lack of coherent sentences and plan then 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 On 27/06/2019 at 22:44, barry said: As an aussie citizen living in UK with a future wife who lives in Russia , trying ton comply with the undermentioned is almost impossible although geeting my wife a credit card and debitv card as a second person on my accout might be possible . She had a job in Moscow and we meet on holiday or visits me for a few weeks . Could this be a major prioblem So you keep banging on about how everyone has ignored your question and just keeps suggesting you get an agent. As you now seem to have descended to the realms of insults and oblique references to Breexit, lets get the thread right back on topic. The answer to your question of Could this be a major problem? is YES. Happy now? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metoo Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Barry, I would not even try to give you any advice regarding your visa application, having seen your hostile replies to the wise, well meaning people on this forum. Furthermore, if I was an agent (which I am not) I wouldn’t touch you with a barge pole. Good luck in getting your Russian pen friend into Oz, you may need it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasmine Sallis Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Just in response to the initial questions by FletcherFlether. I have read through some of the answers given and would proceed with caution as many are incorrect. A British citizen can get an ETA to enter Australia as a tourist and can apply for another visa after this - as there is no 'No Further Stay' condition attached. This is actually quite a common thing to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Jasmine Sallis said: Just in response to the initial questions by FletcherFlether. I have read through some of the answers given and would proceed with caution as many are incorrect. A British citizen can get an ETA to enter Australia as a tourist and can apply for another visa after this - as there is no 'No Further Stay' condition attached. This is actually quite a common thing to happen. No one is arguing with that, and many people on the forum have done that very thing, however, as the other posts in response to the OP point out, it is as well to be aware of the pitfalls of applying for the 820/801 onshore - the timeline is much linger at present than the offshore 309/100, and a lengthy spell on a bridging visa is not always ideal. Its also advisable to be aware that when the new sponsor rules are brought in for the Spouse Visa, the evisitor may well expire before the sponsor gets approval, as that approval is expected to take several months. The prospective applicant would then have to leave without being able to lodge the 820/801. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggieMay24 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Since it seems this thread is progressing nowhere except to insulting people who are offering advice, I will close it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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