Ellie 2 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Except that the SNP claimed throughout the campaign and since that the GE was not a referendum on leaving the Union. Were they lying about that in your view? No the SNP were not lying. They have the trust of the Scots because they do what they say. They will fight to get everything that was promised by the 3 other parties just before the referendum. If this is not delivered by Cameron it will simply mean the Scots will become more anti Westminster and your guess is as good as mine what will happen. However, I expect the SNP's manifesto, for the 2016 Scots election, will contain their preference for independence. When that will happen depends on the feelings of the people. I know many wish it sooner rather than later but only time will tell. The SNP will not act until they are sure that there is a good majority. Edited May 11, 2015 by Ellie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie 2 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 You have absolutely no evidence to back that up.Most Scots wanted to stay in the UK as was proven in the referendum. You don't have a clue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Actually most Scots voted yes, voters born outwith Scotland voted no in far higher proportions. And how could you possibly know that. Obviously you cannot know and have made it up. Those stats were not recorded in the referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I am amazed the Scots got out the pubs to vote, and those that did get out the pubs found a polling station while blind drunk:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie 2 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I am amazed the Scots got out the pubs to vote, and those that did get out the pubs found a polling station while blind drunk:wink: That is so funny. I can hardly type for laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Which policy ? I think Scotland is getting what was promised to them and quickly. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbye grey sky Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 No the SNP were not lying. They have the trust of the Scots because they do what they say. They will fight to get everything that was promised by the 3 other parties just before the referendum. If this is not delivered by Cameron it will simply mean the Scots will become more anti Westminster and your guess is as good as mine what will happen. However, I expect the SNP's manifesto, for the 2016 Scots election, will contain their preference for independence. When that will happen depends on the feelings of the people. I know many wish it sooner rather than later but only time will tell. The SNP will not act until they are sure that there is a good majority. I must say that it is hard to see how they could become more anti-Westminster. The SNP are riding high on creating a bogeyman that is an easy target really. Have the Scots considered a post-independence landscape or do you feel that they would become effectively a one-party state like the ANC in South Africa without a credible opposition. I have a feeling that Independence would be the worst thing that could actually happen to the SNP and to the Scots though I know that its supporters believe that Scotland would then proceed as a unified socialist utopia ruled by Brussels (sorry, Holyrood). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 The UK needs to change. People are fed up with westminster holding all the power. I can sense more protests this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 The UK needs to change. People are fed up with westminster holding all the power. I can sense more protests this year You mean Jocks right?:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I just read a message on Twitter "can someone record the SNP mp's trying to use scottish notes in the westminster canteen today". Thought that was quite funny :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 You mean Jocks right?:wink: Err.. No. Are you from Birmingham or somewhere near there? Are there many tory supporters there? Just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Err.. No. Are you from Birmingham or somewhere near there? Are there many tory supporters there? Just wondering Loads mate, we are all home owning business leaders where i come from:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le petit roi Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Can't be bothered to vote but can be bothered to protest!!!:wacko:. Well I would hope that most of the population would prefer to vote rather than protest, far easier that way surely a point well proven last week I believe.But on your way of thinking, and referring to your earlier post, then we could ignore the pointless vote of a whole country as it means nothing! You seem to pick and choose as to when, if and how the vote is useful or not to you:confused: Tell that to the Irish and the Dutch people who, 16 months after rejecting the Lisbon Treaty on further EU integration in a 2008 Referendum, were forced to try again because they didn't give the EU and the Govts the right answer first time around. Is this not what Cameron et al are being critical towards the SNP should they decide they'd like another Referendum? As was said earlier, it is only democracy if your side wins. None of the political hypocrites deserve my vote nor will I give them credence from giving it to them. In not voting, I am protesting at the disenchantment I feel towards the candidates and credible polices offered to me. Also, when I say I don't vote, I would like to point out that its not through laziness or apathy. I actually do go to the ballot box and spoil my voting paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Loads mate, we are all home owning business leaders where i come from:wink: Plenty successful people where I live. Being successful doesn't mean you have to vote for a right wing party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welljock Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 And how could you possibly know that.Obviously you cannot know and have made it up. Those stats were not recorded in the referendum. If you think that how can you justify your original statement; obviously you just made it up as you cannot know!!! Anyway http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/independence-referendum-figures-revealed-majority-5408163 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxboz Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I am amazed the Scots got out the pubs to vote, and those that did get out the pubs found a polling station while blind drunk:wink: This is highly insulting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Just ignore him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Must be the drink that makes us more politically engaged than England eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritChickx Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Ooohhh....hark at everyone getting all bitchy. Quite pathetic to be honest. I have no shame in admitting that I voted for conservatives. I am glad they got in. I have my reasons for voting for them just like the scots for voting SNP and others voting Labour or UKIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Farage is back. Haha I've stayed away from pio longer than he stayed away as leader :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 A very TORY trait. Was only discussing this with someone the other day... What's the difference between Parley saying he knows he is right and you saying the other day that you know what's right for the country????? Nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach pig Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 The socialists are violently demonstrating.What does that say when people won't even accept a democratic outcome ? Nasty violent lefties:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach pig Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I like being a Tory! If there was a democratic socialist party like Germany's SPD I would prob vote for them,.but never Labour/Labor. Don't worry you are not alone in that respect and their is millions more who think like us.who won again:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach pig Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Another Parley statement...I made no mention of support for the violent protests. I support PEACEFUL protest. So I take it you will support the EDL on their next march. Obviously as long as its peaceful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach pig Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 A very TORY trait. Was only discussing this with someone the other day... Don't worry you've got five years to discuss it. Hope you have got plenty of mates.:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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