grahamffc Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 It sounds like you have had a bit of a whirlwind of feelings. Firstly staying with family (I assume in suburbia) is going to be very different to staying in hotels as you would on most holidays, secondly very few tourists wouldn't get bored spending a month in Perth, but thirdly it is very difficult to imagine how your life with all the daily routines in Australia would compare to that of the UK.I moved back from Melbourne to London last year for many reasons but fish and chips was not one of them, I think they are far superior in Australia, much less greasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacaranda Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Yes I also prefer aussie fish and chips.To greasy for me over here and the chips are always soggy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I know what you mean too...and im very glad i came out here,made me realise how advanced the uk is,i will appreciate the uk alot more,including the weather.its not just fish and chips,i find all the other food is awful too,not even pizza hut is the same here,i got half burnt pizza from them once!i dont expect that from pizza hut. Burnt pizza from Pizza Hut........there was someone that left because they couldn't get robinsons cordial I believe, that wasn't you was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bora Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 It seems to me that we should admire those Australians who hanker for 'culture' strive to create it 'at the end of the world.' rather than knocking them because Australia is not in Europe. I don't know how hard it is to get to the theatre if you live in a Perth suburb, but it's much easier living in a Sydney suburb to get to the city, than it is for someone living outside Southampton (where I come from) to get to The West End - drive or bus to the station, 70-90 minutes on the train to Waterloo, or choose to stay overnight in London, and I'm not sure that theatre prices in London are particularly cheap compared to Australia? A ticket to the English Premier League for many clubs is certainly far above what you would pay to see a football game in Australia. I admit to being a bit of a cultural 'Philistine' myself, but if I was into it, I'm sure I could find like-minded people to socialise with who like the theatre, opera, classical music, just as I can find like-minded people who like football and rock music. Love that line, like the two are of equals and we're being ripped off ! The Football thing, probably best left...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 That's an interesting point JinT and very well put. I sometimes wonder how people who were born and bred here who have gone to AU or anywhere for that matter, have grown to dislike their homeland so much for there new home, how they'd feel if they ever had to return for whatever reason. All well and good, but I think ones origins should be respected and never forgotten irrespective how wonderful ones life is elsewhere. Now, it's different for those who chose to return because they did not like it, because we compare things and share our opinions re. a place that was never our home anyway. Just a thought. Are there really many on here that HATE the UK? I reckon the vast majority don't hate their place of birth, I know I certainly don't . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Are there really many on here that HATE the UK? I reckon the vast majority don't hate their place of birth, I know I certainly don't . I certainly don't hate the UK either, I don't forget my place of origin, have great memories and we had a good life, equally, we have a good life here and this is home now - who knows what's around the corner, I never imagined leaving the Uk, but here we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Quite apart from anything else, we have loved ones still living there, that alone makes us care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith and Linda Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 On my travels around the world, both holidays and living, I have always been gobsmacked by the number of British (English) folk paying all that money to go overseas on holidays and then look for the English pub/cafes/shops, anything with a Union Flag on display:wacko:, Even in Florida at the Epcot centre with all the themed villages from around the world, the British themed pub was packed to the gunnels with Brits wanting a piece of England........... beer and Bangers & Mash!:confused: I believe that a few that move to Australia (and no doubt other countries) bring with them that same attitude and find it impossible to change, but of course it's not their fault, it's the place that has got it all wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 On my travels around the world, both holidays and living, I have always been gobsmacked by the number of British (English) folk paying all that money to go overseas on holidays and then look for the English pub/cafes/shops, anything with a Union Flag on display:wacko:, Even in Florida at the Epcot centre with all the themed villages from around the world, the British themed pub was packed to the gunnels with Brits wanting a piece of England........... beer and Bangers & Mash!:confused:I believe that a few that move to Australia (and no doubt other countries) bring with them that same attitude and find it impossible to change, but of course it's not their fault, it's the place that has got it all wrong! Must be honest we did that at Epcot :laugh: But I did have a glass of Champers in "Paris" there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbye grey sky Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Must be honest we did that at Epcot :laugh: But I did have a glass of Champers in "Paris" there too. I did Epcot over 20 years ago and went for the Japanese restaurant. At that time had not tried Japanese as knew of no restaurants in that area. I agree though that most prefer the familiar. Lets face it we have exported our culture and way of doing things all round the world. Wherever you go you find Brits creating their own version of home and they hate it when the locals can't adapt. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockinTas Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Are there really many on here that HATE the UK? I reckon the vast majority don't hate their place of birth, I know I certainly don't . I don't hate the UK. In fact if I hadn't married an Australian I would perhaps still be living there. My favourite areas are Country Durham, North Yorkshire, Scotland (of course) and the Lake District (off the beaten track). I will be visiting all those places in the next few weeks catching up with old friends. I won't be going to any cities apart from seeing my sister in London. I am definitely not a city person. They all look and feel the same to me apart from a few superficial differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Yes, you are missing something. You haven't experienced Australia....you've experienced WA. Which is a stunning and diverse state with much to appreciate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Which is a stunning and diverse state with much to appreciate. Apparently not :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I would love to know where the OP spent time. My guess is a month in the burbs with the odd trip to lakeside and the park. A few barbies and the hosts 'favourite beach'.....if you plan your stay and try to see all aspects, travel a bit...yes really wa is vast... You may see sides of the state you never knew existed. It's just about research and not expecting the good stuff to come present itself to you. It's like me spending a month in inner city Stoke and saying 'the midlands are shocking' not all that...when we all know Middle England as well as hosting some of the most inhospitable cities in Europe also hosts the most stunning countryside and historic sites, speciality shopping, arts and food. Just like WA. Funny that.....pffftttt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Anyway...I must get back to enjoying my second day in the Great Southern. First impressions are even more spectacular than anything I've seen in my 6 years here in WA. Never been bored. Not once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Which is a stunning and diverse state with much to appreciate. Oh yes...I wasn't meaning to discount W.A. in any way. I'm just averse to that view - which we know so well on PIO :rolleyes: - that "I've been to Perth...therefore I'm an expert on Australia". :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Beach doesn't suit me either but I really like it here ETA - To the OP, sorry to hear that the experience wasn't up to what you thought it would be ... really interested to hear where you visited and which suburb you stayed in. I think in fairness, you haven't seen WA, I've been here 8 years and don't feel I've experienced all WA has to offer. The beach culture is well ingrained though as to identify Perth along with the weather. This is regardless of the fact that no one I know ventures to the beach these days, apart from the odd summer picnic in the evenings. This is perhaps the biggest cultural change over the decades. That and pub culture. Perth and its metro area, suits some while naturally not others. Little secret there I'd have thought. Still beats me why so many are defensive against those not seeing it as some sort of El Dolardo. Seen far too many come and go over the decades, some for no real reason other than growing out of it and discovering more to life elsewhere. Others prefer the style on offer. No the OP hasn't seen anything like all of WA. But Perth didn't float their boat, and travel around the state is very expensive and perhaps the funds were not available. Perhaps the OP thought other places better suited to personal requirements to see at a better price. We don't know. Staying in outer Perth I can well imagine as challenging to many. If the OP had stayed where I live perhaps another experience could have been attained. The freedom to walk to bars and cafes and the city on the doorstep with the ability to stay out late and take a bus back almost to the door or a train would I imagine have coloured experiences differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Oh yes...I wasn't meaning to discount W.A. in any way. I'm just averse to that view - which we know so well on PIO :rolleyes: - that "I've been to Perth...therefore I'm an expert on Australia". :laugh: Or the shock of Perth was enough to call it quits who knows. I still think the best way to do it is when young and climb aboard the backpacker express. Most are heading the same way and doing much the same thing but it is a way to transverse Australia as cheaply as possible as experience it how many locals don't even get to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I would love to know where the OP spent time. My guess is a month in the burbs with the odd trip to lakeside and the park. A few barbies and the hosts 'favourite beach'.....if you plan your stay and try to see all aspects, travel a bit...yes really wa is vast... You may see sides of the state you never knew existed. It's just about research and not expecting the good stuff to come present itself to you. It's like me spending a month in inner city Stoke and saying 'the midlands are shocking' not all that...when we all know Middle England as well as hosting some of the most inhospitable cities in Europe also hosts the most stunning countryside and historic sites, speciality shopping, arts and food. Just like WA. Funny that.....pffftttt There are differences. Ease of travel within the Midlands context with the nearness of most things. The time between pit stops can be very long in WA. All the same a shame if at least a trip to the South was not part of the agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I do find the Australian outer Suburbs very bland in general. All tend to look a bit the same and have the same shopping centre, I would probably want to go home if I lived in one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I don't mind constructive criticism of Australia, but I hate insults and gross generalisations. I'm the first to knock the things that need knocking in Sydney, especially the traffic, but I will never accept that it is 'backward.' I'd say the infrastructure is somewhat backward in not moving forwards in Sydney. I didn't find much to fault with the comments of the poster. No need for me to agree with all comments but like London, Sydney up there with the best when it comes to price must expect a few slaps and unexpected under cuts at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 The beach culture is well ingrained though as to identify Perth along with the weather. This is regardless of the fact that no one I know ventures to the beach these days, apart from the odd summer picnic in the evenings. This is perhaps the biggest cultural change over the decades. That and pub culture. Perth and its metro area, suits some while naturally not others. Little secret there I'd have thought. Still beats me why so many are defensive against those not seeing it as some sort of El Dolardo. Seen far too many come and go over the decades, some for no real reason other than growing out of it and discovering more to life elsewhere. Others prefer the style on offer. No the OP hasn't seen anything like all of WA. But Perth didn't float their boat, and travel around the state is very expensive and perhaps the funds were not available. Perhaps the OP thought other places better suited to personal requirements to see at a better price. We don't know. Staying in outer Perth I can well imagine as challenging to many. If the OP had stayed where I live perhaps another experience could have been attained. The freedom to walk to bars and cafes and the city on the doorstep with the ability to stay out late and take a bus back almost to the door or a train would I imagine have coloured experiences differently. I don't disagree with what you say, nor do I think of it is El Dorado, or perfect. I'll be honest that what I find irritating it's generally accepted that it's ok to knock the people that live here and like doing so judgements about those people being that they've been dragged up in a bad area of the UK so anything is better than that, you have to like the beach lifestyle etc. etc., and if you don't like it then you've seen the light. People are up in arms when negatives are said about the UK, so much so admin accommodated those returning to the UK with a private part of the forum, yet for those of us who live and like living in Perth are subject to very similar 'bashing'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach pig Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 On my travels around the world, both holidays and living, I have always been gobsmacked by the number of British (English) folk paying all that money to go overseas on holidays and then look for the English pub/cafes/shops, anything with a Union Flag on display:wacko:, Even in Florida at the Epcot centre with all the themed villages from around the world, the British themed pub was packed to the gunnels with Brits wanting a piece of England........... beer and Bangers & Mash!:confused:I believe that a few that move to Australia (and no doubt other countries) bring with them that same attitude and find it impossible to change, but of course it's not their fault, it's the place that has got it all wrong! And here will all are living halfway round the world on a pommie website talking to other poms.slightly contradictive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockinTas Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I'm not one for lying around on the beach - never was really and I don't particularly like the heat but I've always enjoyed life here. There's a lot more going for Australia than sunshine and beaches for goodness sake. Some people are so narrow minded :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockinTas Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 And here will all are living halfway round the world on a pommie website talking to other poms.slightly contradictive :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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