Love Shoes Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 As I say...a couple of isolated incidents...no big deal. how would you feel if it was your windows that had been put through .... believe me having your property smashed up by idiots is no laughing matter, it happened to us, fortunately I never got my hands on the culprit .... not a nice attitude ... and a charity shop, the mind boggles it really does ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fisheys Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Very little chatter about perhaps Mrs Thatchers two greatest achievements, one was a Labour politician called Tony Blair, without whom Labour would still be the unwashed, uncouth, unelectable rabble they were under Callaghan, Foot, and Kinnock. The second is her greatest achievement, which is that she backed the leader of the Free World, Ronald Regan, in his fight to destroy Communism, and the Iron Curtain. The Labour Party favoured "one sided nuclear disarmament," and many Socialists secretly hoped that the UK would leave the EU and join the Warsaw Pact. (At the 1983 General Election Labours policy was to leave the EU and abandon credible defence). Many younger people will be unaware of this, but the truth is that The Soviet Union had used their overwhelming military power to invade Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Poland, and use their enormous Red Army to ruthlessly suppress the people in those countries. If you tried to escape, you would be shot. They built a wall in Berlin to keep their citizens in, and stop them leaving to join their families and friends in the West. If they didn't like your political views, then their Secret Service would send you to their Prison Camps in Siberia or somewhere, and you could forget any trial, or using the Human Rights Act. I'll just say that again, the Socialists built a wall in Berlin to stop the East Germans trying to leave the country, if they tried to run for it, they would be shot dead. Several East Germans lost their lives, not from illness, accidents and stuff, but because the Socialist Dictators ordered them to be shot dead. Bang, bang, you're toast comrade. If there were elections, there was only one party you could vote for. there was no Free Press. Television was heavily censured, and there was no Trade Unions that we would recognise, indeed, when the Poles tried to form one, (Solidarity), the Russians sent in the tanks! Against this, Mrs Thatchers governments made sure Britain retained Nuclear Weapons, and the Russians knew she would use them, so they never invaded Western Europe. Eventually, because Russia was a Socialist Country, (it's full name was the USSR...Union of Soviet Socialist Republics), because it was a Socialist Country, eventually it could not afford to compete with the capitalist countries of the UK and the USA, and it collapsed. The Berlin Wall came down. Germany was reunited, East Germany became free, so did Poland, Rumania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Latvia, Yugoslavia, Albania, Lithuania, and Estonia. As a direct result of Mrs Thatchers Governments support for the USA then, today, hundreds of millions of people are free in those former Socialist States. Hundreds of millions of people, free to live where they choose, buy a house, even come to the UK to live. Maybe that does cause a bit of friction, the idle claim they aren't working because "the Poles / Kosovans / Rumanians, Bulgarians, have taken "their jobs," (on the dole for 30 years I don't think so, but hey, blame your idleness on some poor immigrants who have come to the UK for a better life, and to work in the jobs our own lazy bas****s feel are beneath them). You know, as a civilised society we will get over that. And it is this that the Socialists hate her for. Don't be fooled by them, after all, even with an enormous majority New Labour never thought for one second to reverse her policies, no repeal of laws that freed ordinary workers from the tyranny of the Trade Unions Closed Shop, no return to 85% Income Tax, no leaving the EU, no renationalisation, not even any "One Sided Disarmament. No, the Socialists hate her because she believed in the one principle that divides Conservatives from Socialists, Conservatives believe people should be free, because Conservatives believe you know what is best for you, not the state, and you can look at any policy, and that is where the divide is. Those who now gloat over the passing of an 87 year old woman they could never hope to defeat in life would do well to consider just how motivational their comments will be to Conservatives across the country as they prepare to fight the next election, and also, they serve to remind the British people that just because these socialists may have had a wash, a shave, bought a nice suit, and grown up a bit, sadly some of them still seem to be the same red fascist scum that they were in the 1980s, and we can never, ever trust them with the government of a civilised democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Andy Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Ohhhh dear...daily fail alert.....the great unwashed......would you call all the former miners who live in ravaged villages unwashed because they celebrated? You really are a daily fail top man.What part of my post are you to thick to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I suffered....I could have been a pro. thatcher hated sport. Thatcher's 1981 Regulation 909 gave education authorities the right to sell school land that they considered surplus to their requirements. Over the next decade an estimated 5,000 playing fields were sold, many converted to housing developments, supermarkets or car parks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Very little chatter about perhaps Mrs Thatchers two greatest achievements, one was a Labour politician called Tony Blair, without whom Labour would still be the unwashed, uncouth, unelectable rabble they were under Callaghan, Foot, and Kinnock. The second is her greatest achievement, which is that she backed the leader of the Free World, Ronald Regan, in his fight to destroy Communism, and the Iron Curtain. The Labour Party favoured "one sided nuclear disarmament," and many Socialists secretly hoped that the UK would leave the EU and join the Warsaw Pact. (At the 1983 General Election Labours policy was to leave the EU and abandon credible defence). Many younger people will be unaware of this, but the truth is that The Soviet Union had used their overwhelming military power to invade Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Poland, and use their enormous Red Army to ruthlessly suppress the people in those countries. If you tried to escape, you would be shot. They built a wall in Berlin to keep their citizens in, and stop them leaving to join their families and friends in the West. If they didn't like your political views, then their Secret Service would send you to their Prison Camps in Siberia or somewhere, and you could forget any trial, or using the Human Rights Act. I'll just say that again, the Socialists built a wall in Berlin to stop the East Germans trying to leave the country, if they tried to run for it, they would be shot dead. Several East Germans lost their lives, not from illness, accidents and stuff, but because the Socialist Dictators ordered them to be shot dead. Bang, bang, you're toast comrade. If there were elections, there was only one party you could vote for. there was no Free Press. Television was heavily censured, and there was no Trade Unions that we would recognise, indeed, when the Poles tried to form one, (Solidarity), the Russians sent in the tanks! Against this, Mrs Thatchers governments made sure Britain retained Nuclear Weapons, and the Russians knew she would use them, so they never invaded Western Europe. Eventually, because Russia was a Socialist Country, (it's full name was the USSR...Union of Soviet Socialist Republics), because it was a Socialist Country, eventually it could not afford to compete with the capitalist countries of the UK and the USA, and it collapsed. The Berlin Wall came down. Germany was reunited, East Germany became free, so did Poland, Rumania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Latvia, Yugoslavia, Albania, Lithuania, and Estonia. As a direct result of Mrs Thatchers Governments support for the USA then, today, hundreds of millions of people are free in those former Socialist States. Hundreds of millions of people, free to live where they choose, buy a house, even come to the UK to live. Maybe that does cause a bit of friction, the idle claim they aren't working because "the Poles / Kosovans / Rumanians, Bulgarians, have taken "their jobs," (on the dole for 30 years I don't think so, but hey, blame your idleness on some poor immigrants who have come to the UK for a better life, and to work in the jobs our own lazy bas****s feel are beneath them). You know, as a civilised society we will get over that. And it is this that the Socialists hate her for. Don't be fooled by them, after all, even with an enormous majority New Labour never thought for one second to reverse her policies, no repeal of laws that freed ordinary workers from the tyranny of the Trade Unions Closed Shop, no return to 85% Income Tax, no leaving the EU, no renationalisation, not even any "One Sided Disarmament. No, the Socialists hate her because she believed in the one principle that divides Conservatives from Socialists, Conservatives believe people should be free, because Conservatives believe you know what is best for you, not the state, and you can look at any policy, and that is where the divide is. Those who now gloat over the passing of an 87 year old woman they could never hope to defeat in life would do well to consider just how motivational their comments will be to Conservatives across the country as they prepare to fight the next election, and also, they serve to remind the British people that just because these socialists may have had a wash, a shave, bought a nice suit, and grown up a bit, sadly some of them still seem to be the same red fascist scum that they were in the 1980s, and we can never, ever trust them with the government of a civilised democracy. What a load of paranoid right wing fascist rewriting of history, with the usual snotty look down your nose comments about ,the "great unwashed,scum etc etc",poor,poor form,and shows a hatred of somebody just because they dont believe in the same party as you. Blair didnt happen because of thatcher,Blair happened because Labour knew it had to appeal to the middle ground or they wouldnt get back back in power,absolutely nothing to do with thatcher. Yes we know it was called the USSR,theres an Indian dish you will know of called Bombay Duck,but its not a Duck is it?,its a Lizard fish,know what i mean? The USSR was Communist,as you've said yourself at the top of your post,"Reagan was fighting Communism",not socialism as we know it. So thatcher wasnt scared to use nuclear weapons on the USSR,you sure on that? she wasnt scared to start a nuclear war if the USSR invaded Western Europe,nah,not having it. Her puppet masters in the USA wouldnt have allowed it for one,and we'd have been wiped out in return by the USSR,maybe they were just never going to go any further than they did,or is that not dramatic enough? The people of Eastern Europe brought down the USSR,and if it wasnt them,it was a realization from the USSR that they just didnt have the means to compete with the USA in a nuclear war,making out thatcher brought down Communism is exaggerating in the extreme is it not. Which Socialist wanted to join the Warsaw pact btw?lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Would Tories hold street parties when Ken Livingstone dies? Will the police have to watch out for protest and violence from Tories at his funeral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Would Tories hold street parties when Ken Livingstone dies? Will the police have to watch out for protest and violence from Tories at his funeral? No,i dont think another public figure/PM will ever divide opinion and cause the few scenes of unrest we are seeing now Who said those that will protest might not be anarchy groups or stupid trouble causing teens just looking for a dust up or an opportunity to loot?they dont have to be labour voters do they?i mean C'mon,lets be realistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 No,i dont think another public figure/PM will ever divide opinion and cause the few scenes of unrest we are seeing nowWho said those that will protest might not be anarchy groups or stupid trouble causing teens just looking for a dust up or an opportunity to loot?they dont have to be labour voters do they?i mean C'mon,lets be realistic don't worry mate if there is trouble at the funeral the daily fail will blame the the great unwashed unemployed for everything, they will probably even blame disabled people who can walk more than 20 metres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 don't worry mate if there is trouble at the funeral the daily fail will blame the the great unwashed unemployed for everything, they will probably even blame disabled people who can walk more than 20 metres. No they will blame whoever it is that is causing the trouble as we will all be able to see who it is, my guess is that it will be a load of young thugs who have nothing better to do and those that fancy a new telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 No they will blame whoever it is that is causing the trouble as we will all be able to see who it is, my guess is that it will be a load of young thugs who have nothing better to do and those that fancy a new telly. it will be the fault of the benefit system then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 it will be the fault of the benefit system then.why will it be the fault of the benefit system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 why will it be the fault of the benefit system? you really are hard work,,remember the philpot case last week,,,i can say this idiot coming out with it again if there is troulble next week[h=1]Mick Philpott's benefits 'lifestyle' should be questioned, says Osborn[/h] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieF8 Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 you really are hard work,,remember the philpot case last week,,,i can say this idiot coming out with it again if there is troulble next weekMick Philpott's benefits 'lifestyle' should be questioned, says Osborn Made up quote.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 you really are hard work,,remember the philpot case last week,,,i can say this idiot coming out with it again if there is troulble next weekMick Philpott's benefits 'lifestyle' should be questioned, says Osborn Lets see the Link to that then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scrumpy Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Surley if anyone "chooses" a benefits lifestyle, it should be questioned? Its not a choice, its a saftey net, isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Made up quote.... http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/04/mick-philpott-benefits-lifestyle-questioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Lets see the Link to that then? http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/04/mick-philpott-benefits-lifestyle-questioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/04/mick-philpott-benefits-lifestyle-questioned Yes we all know about that, but what has that got to do with thatchers funeral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 its all gone quiet over there...its all gone quiet over there...:biglaugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Yes we all know about that, but what has that got to do with thatchers funeral? :biglaugh: steve said it was made up then you asked for link...you need a bigger shovel mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 :biglaugh: steve said it was made up then you asked for link...you need a bigger shovel mate. I am asking you what it has got to do with thatchers funeral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Made up quote.... did you get link steve to made up quote...here it is again if you missed it first time :wink: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/04/mick-philpott-benefits-lifestyle-questioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieF8 Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 fool...http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/04/mick-philpott-benefits-lifestyle-questioned From your link.... When asked on a visit to Derby whether the Philpotts were a product of Britain's benefit system, Osborne said: "It's right we ask questions as a government, a society and as taxpayers, why we are subsidising lifestyles like these. It does need to be handled." He said Philpott "was responsible for horrendous crimes, crimes which have shocked the nation". Try to read the whole story, not just the headline.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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