Skillselect ENS 186 Timeline

[Lina Chau]

3 hours ago, AndyBR said:

Thanks Mate,

I will withdraw the application and start once again.

Hold on Mate, check with another MA first.

My MA told me the 3years experience requirement does not necessary be skill assessed if you are under DE program. 

( I am not expert - worth asking more people before withdraw it!!)

 

 

[Lina Chau]

6 hours ago, Tini365 said:

Hi Guys, 

Our application has gone through to Further assessment. 

Since my last post my partner and I have had a bit of a shock. On the 29th Jan we were asked to organise our AFP, UK Police Check and also our health check. We thought, great, we are getting super close. 

We organised our AFP and got those back within a few days and managed to book our health checks in super quick. Both AFP and Health check came back positive and obviously no issues. We applied for our ACRO police checks and my partner had a bit of a shock when we got these back. She has "No Live Trace" on her police check. She remembered that she had 2 warnings for shoplifting in 2004 and referral order for carrying a novelty lighter with a serrated edge but didn't think these would appear because these took place when she was a minor. 

In 2012 my partner got a police check done for her job as an airline hostess and this came back clean. This check we now realise was not as in depth as an ACRO police check. My partner had the understanding that because this police check was clean that no records as a minor would affect her adult life. She used this same police check for her 1st visa here in Australia in 2012 which was a partner visa with her ex and she also used it for her 457 visa after she split up with her ex back in 2013.

As soon as we could we submitted a notification of incorrect answers along with a copy of the old police check that we luckily had on file. We then submitted the Acro police check.

My partner is feeling incredibly sad as this innocent mistake could cause immigration to invoke PIC 4020 which could be devastating to our application. 

I am still keeping positive as we are good people and we both have had a clean record in the UK and Australia since. There is nothing we can do to change this situation it is what it is. 

All I ask is for everyone to throw positive vibes in the air for us both and hope that immigration will take this information lightly and approve our visa. 

I'll keep you updated with our progress. 

Good luck everyone!!! 

Good luck!! All the best!

 

 

[@dream_aus]

15 minutes ago, Lina Chau said:

Hold on Mate, check with another MA first.

My MA told me the 3years experience requirement does not necessary be skill assessed if you are under DE program. 

( I am not expert - worth asking more people before withdraw it!!)

 

 

Yup same suggestion.

@AndyBRPlease check with another MA as well.

[Nora]

5 hours ago, Hex said:

mmmh, we were given child care immediately after PR grant. 
- Looking at time lines, we are about 3 months apart, so would be surprised if " Cheshireborn"  has any issues here. 

@hex FYI, changes apply from 01/Jan/2019. You were granted your PR before the changes were made, so you were one of the lucky ones.  So,those who arrived on a PR and granted a PR after 01/01/2019 must wait 1 year for Family Tax Benefit, and other timeframes for any other subsidy. 

[Nora]

4 hours ago, boo-yaa said:

I just had a quick look and I don't think there is a waiting period for Child Care Subsidy - so @Cheshireborn will be okay

The waiting period relates to the following:

A four year waiting period applies to:
 Newstart Allowance  Youth Allowance  Austudy  Parenting Payment  Mobility Allowance  Sickness Allowance  Bereavement Allowance  Special Benefit  Pensioner Education Supplement  Farm Household Allowance  Low Income Health Care Card  Commonwealth Seniors Health Card.

A two year waiting period applies to:
 Parental Leave Pay  Dad and Partner Pay  Carer Payment.

A one year waiting period applies to:
 Carer Allowance  Family Tax Benefit Part A.

 

Source:
https://www.dss.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/01_2019/website-narwp-post-passage-factsheet-etcom-waiting-period-02-jan-19_0.pdf

@Hex Sorry my bad, child care is not mentioned.. I will ask as well. Thanks @boo-yaa

[mukden]

1 hour ago, Lina Chau said:

Hold on Mate, check with another MA first.

My MA told me the 3years experience requirement does not necessary be skill assessed if you are under DE program. 

( I am not expert - worth asking more people before withdraw it!!)

 

 

depends on when you applied.

[Katie reilly]

10 hours ago, Tini365 said:

Hi Guys, 

Our application has gone through to Further assessment. 

Since my last post my partner and I have had a bit of a shock. On the 29th Jan we were asked to organise our AFP, UK Police Check and also our health check. We thought, great, we are getting super close. 

We organised our AFP and got those back within a few days and managed to book our health checks in super quick. Both AFP and Health check came back positive and obviously no issues. We applied for our ACRO police checks and my partner had a bit of a shock when we got these back. She has "No Live Trace" on her police check. She remembered that she had 2 warnings for shoplifting in 2004 and referral order for carrying a novelty lighter with a serrated edge but didn't think these would appear because these took place when she was a minor. 

In 2012 my partner got a police check done for her job as an airline hostess and this came back clean. This check we now realise was not as in depth as an ACRO police check. My partner had the understanding that because this police check was clean that no records as a minor would affect her adult life. She used this same police check for her 1st visa here in Australia in 2012 which was a partner visa with her ex and she also used it for her 457 visa after she split up with her ex back in 2013.

As soon as we could we submitted a notification of incorrect answers along with a copy of the old police check that we luckily had on file. We then submitted the Acro police check.

My partner is feeling incredibly sad as this innocent mistake could cause immigration to invoke PIC 4020 which could be devastating to our application. 

I am still keeping positive as we are good people and we both have had a clean record in the UK and Australia since. There is nothing we can do to change this situation it is what it is. 

All I ask is for everyone to throw positive vibes in the air for us both and hope that immigration will take this information lightly and approve our visa. 

I'll keep you updated with our progress. 

Good luck everyone!!! 

So sorry to hear this Tini365. We had a similar situation in September 2018 when we applied. My husbands also came back 'no live trace' for a caution drunk and disorderly also back in 2004. He was 18 at the time. Our MA advised we may be able to have it removed. In the meantime we submitted visa without the AFP. We spoke to police and ACRO in UK, managed to fill out a form to appeal the caution and it was overturned. (In the meantime we ordered a subject access which we were going to put in with our application if we were unable to get it appealed and provide an explanation ) We didn't have any evidence as to why we were removing it he just said young and a mistake and stressed what a massive impact it was having on our visa application.  It took about 3-4 weeks to come back but was worth it to have it now say no trace if possible. Even if it can't be removed don't stress if you can get a subject access explaining what happened and have a note from your MA it should be fine.

I hope this helps best of luck.

[Roja]

My processing time just changed to 12-13 months.  i have just crossed 12 months, 

Occupation:  TECHNICAL  SALES representative nec.-225499
State: QLD  Brisbane)
 Country: HR (India)
Stream: 186 TRT
Number of applicants: 1
ENS 186 Visa and Nomination  and application applied:  21 FEBRUARY  2018

NOT EVEN SURE IF NOMINATION FILE HAS OPENED OR NOT BUT MY MARA IS ASKING FOR DOCUMENTS 

IMMI Status: Received

[Pinky117]

On 19/02/2019 at 18:12, Bips22 said:

Giving my heartbreaking news here. My visa got refused today. The Nomination got approved but, 186 DE visa got refused. The reason being, The CO, did not find my previous work experience of "Cook" relevant to the position. 

Some of the businesses had shut down, hence I could not get reference letters from all of them. So those experiences did not count. The PAYGs or salary transactions are also not getting into consideration.

I have been here for 10+ years now, since 2008. And this now  !!  Myself and my family are devastated. 

My Agent knew about this, but she says Why didn't I inform about my work experiences to her three years ago. I don't know how could I have informed her, when I did not know this issue. No point arguing with her now.      The skill assessment were okay with my work experience, and they approved it, yet Immi did not accept that. 

Now My ma is suggesting to go for TRT stream because I have completed two and a half years on 457.  I don't have the heart or anymore strength to go through the ordeal, all over again. 

But, I think I will be in a better mental state in the next few days..

I applied 457 in 2016,  186 DE was applied on June 2017. So the CO did not take into consideration my work experience, after June 2017.

I'm so sorry to hear about this situation. can you appeal on visa refusal?

I've been asked for overseas experience and your post actually made me anxious  

[Anita12]

20 hours ago, sydneyishuk said:

Hi Anita,

Would be good if you could share your details... and update the signature to give the following information

Occupation: 
State: 
Birth Country: 
Stream: 
Number of applicants: 
ENS 186 Visa and Nomination applied: 
IMMI Status: 

Occupation: chef

state: Melbourne 

birth country: nepal

stream: 186

no of applicant: 3

nom and visa applied: feb 2018

immi status: received 

[@dream_aus]

6 minutes ago, Pinky117 said:

I'm so sorry to hear about this situation. can you appeal on visa refusal?

I've been asked for overseas experience and your post actually made me anxious  

Each skill assessment body has different rules. For ACS if your company is not providing you the skill certificate you can ask an ex colleague from same company to sign an affidavit. And that is considered with PayG and salary slips.

 

Explore all your options.

[Tini365]

10 hours ago, Katie reilly said:

So sorry to hear this Tini365. We had a similar situation in September 2018 when we applied. My husbands also came back 'no live trace' for a caution drunk and disorderly also back in 2004. He was 18 at the time. Our MA advised we may be able to have it removed. In the meantime we submitted visa without the AFP. We spoke to police and ACRO in UK, managed to fill out a form to appeal the caution and it was overturned. (In the meantime we ordered a subject access which we were going to put in with our application if we were unable to get it appealed and provide an explanation ) We didn't have any evidence as to why we were removing it he just said young and a mistake and stressed what a massive impact it was having on our visa application.  It took about 3-4 weeks to come back but was worth it to have it now say no trace if possible. Even if it can't be removed don't stress if you can get a subject access explaining what happened and have a note from your MA it should be fine.

I hope this helps best of luck.

Thanks Katie, Good idea but we won't be able to get rid of the offensive weapon issue even though it was a stupid novelty lighter! 

I'm sure it will be fine. Fingers crossed they don't make a mountain out of a molehill on this one! In the end, we just notified immigration she gave the wrong answer and apologised profusely.

 

[AndyBR]

14 hours ago, Lina Chau said:

Hold on Mate, check with another MA first.

My MA told me the 3years experience requirement does not necessary be skill assessed if you are under DE program. 

( I am not expert - worth asking more people before withdraw it!!)

 

 

Exactly. But the Department is more restrictive now, I tried to submit prove that I have much more than three years of experience but they are arguing that at the moment that I applied accordingly with my ACS assessment I don't have these three years. We tried for 3 times show this to the Department without success. So I think the best thing to do is withdraw the application.

[mukden]

On 18/02/2019 at 14:19, AndyBR said:

Hey guys,

I'm into a very tricky situation. I applied my visa on 14/02/2018 as Web Developer, when I lodged the visa my ICT skills assessment from ACS was showing 2 years 5 months of experience (it doesn't match with the Department requirements that is 3 years of experience, my agent neither me noticed this). I have more than 11 years of experience in total, but looks like the Department only consider the experience after my Bachelor Degree(without counting the experience after the lodge).

I can see few options here:

- Try to submit a new assessment once again to ACS with the same Bachelor Degree (applying today I will get more than 3 years of experience, but I'm not sure if the Department will accept it)

- Try to submit a new assessment once again to ACS using my Technologist certificate from 2009 (not sure if they will accept it)

- Withdraw the application with the same documents starting from month zero once again

 

The main thing here is that I lodged the visa with less than 3 years of experience.

 

Do you guys see any other option? What do you guys reckon should be the best option?

The new rule started from 18 March 2018. So for ur case this should not be a problem unless you applied a little bit late than that date

[AndyBR]

20 minutes ago, mukden said:

The new rule started from 18 March 2018. So for ur case this should not be a problem unless you applied a little bit late than that date

Which rule?

[mukden]

23 minutes ago, AndyBR said:

Which rule?

Sorry that is for 187 de. I just checked for 186 it is always required for a 3 yr experience.

[Vishaal]

@AndyBR how many months before your 3 years experience did you apply?

I think even i applied like two months before my official 3 years experience 

[sydneyishuk]

I've heard you must have 3 years experience when applying if you fall short of this you are at the risk of visa being refused.

[AndyBR]

6 minutes ago, Vishaal said:

@AndyBR how many months before your 3 years experience did you apply?

I think even i applied like two months before my official 3 years experience 

I applied with 2 years 5 months. Before it was ok but now they are more restrictives.

[AndyBR]

5 minutes ago, sydneyishuk said:

I've heard you must have 3 years experience when applying if you fall short of this you are at the risk of visa being refused.

Exactly.

[Nora]

9 minutes ago, sydneyishuk said:

I've heard you must have 3 years experience when applying if you fall short of this you are at the risk of visa being refused.

Yes, when you apply you shall meet the 3 years experience. Check out the website for further information. https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/employer-nomination-scheme-186/direct-entry-stream

 

 

You must

• have an occupation that is on the list of eligible skilled occupations 
• have at least 3 years relevant work experience, unless you are exempt
• have a positive skills assessment, unless you are exempt

[kum]

Hello guys please add me in sheet

Position: Restaurant Manager

State: QLD

Country: HR Pakistan

Subclass: 186 Trt

Lodge: Nomination and Visa May 2018

Status: Received

[Rakhush]

Motor mechanic waiting since Feb 2018 still no updates on my application . Not sure when my golden Email will come

[mukden]

15 minutes ago, Rakhush said:

Motor mechanic waiting since Feb 2018 still no updates on my application . Not sure when my golden Email will come

So what is the status quo ？

[Vishaal]

1 hour ago, AndyBR said:

 Exactly.

What are you going to do now ?