simmo Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 [h=1]University tells students Britain 'invaded' Australia[/h] A top Australian university has rejected claims it is trying to rewrite the nation's colonial history. Students are being encouraged to use the term "invaded" rather than "settled" or "discovered", and avoid the word "Aborigines". The University of New South Wales (UNSW) Indigenous Terminology guide states that Australia was "invaded, occupied and colonised". But UNSW says it does not mandate what language can and cannot be used. "The guide suggests referring to Captain [James] Cook as the first Englishman to map the continent's East Coast is 'more appropriate' than referring to his 'discovery' of Australia," a UNSW spokesperson said in a statement to the BBC. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-35922858 :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 They did, they really ****ed up the indigenous people who had lived ther happily for 1000s of years, look at them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzukiscottie Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Generally that's what Empires did; invade, colonise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Generally that's what Empires did; invade, colonise. Yep. , and t **** up the people who have lived there for 1000s of years happy, look at the state of the aboriginals now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 What else would you call it but an invasion? It wasn't like the Brits were invited. In today's terms, a state entering another sovereign territory without permission is an act of war, and that's before rounding up and shooting the locals. Unless of course you agree with the Terra Nullius principle, which is fundamentally immoral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosiew Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I don't understand why this is news. Most primary school students could tell you it was not 'discovered' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndoe Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I feel sorry for the Phoeniceans of Gibralter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith and Linda Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Yep., and t **** up the people who have lived there for 1000s of years happy, look at the state of the aboriginals now. Yes! and look at the state of the English now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith and Linda Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I feel sorry for the Phoeniceans of Gibralter Shoot the man that invented the boat, he's the one to blame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal2 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 another word for invade is conquer - is there any country in this world hasn't been conquered at some time or other. With regards to messing up the aboriginal people, a) drugs and alcohol etc are available every where we just choose whether or not we use them, b) they at least don't kill each other as much now, and not for tribal reasons c) some aboriginal people have done really well, so putting them all in the same pot is crazy, d) give those who are mixed parentage a break please......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wa7 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 This university was looking for a headline and got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 another word for invade is conquer - is there any country in this world hasn't been conquered at some time or other. With regards to messing up the aboriginal people, a) drugs and alcohol etc are available every where we just choose whether or not we use them, b) they at least don't kill each other as much now, and not for tribal reasons c) some aboriginal people have done really well, so putting them all in the same pot is crazy, d) give those who are mixed parentage a break please......... You display a severe lack of understanding of historical context. May I suggest you do some further research around the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Who cares what word they use really? The media have so many news channels and feeds they have to fill them up with any old crap. It happened long ago and people just need to move on, forget it and enjoy Aus for what it is today. Plenty of opportunity and space for everyone that wants to get off their butt and give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Who cares what word they use really? The media have so many news channels and feeds they have to fill them up with any old crap. It happened long ago and people just need to move on, forget it and enjoy Aus for what it is today. Plenty of opportunity and space for everyone that wants to get off their butt and give it a go. Well actually thee isn't. Plenty of space I mean. Sydney and Melbourne are increasingly having infrastructure severely challenged, owing to rapid increasing population. Regardless of when it happened language can and does incite. Both sides will something tell me never find consensus on the correct terminology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderDrinkingCoder Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Cultural relativism, people. Applying our own standards to those of another era is somewhat lacking in intellectual honesty and - potentially - quite dangerous. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 As I've said before. It's time the issue was fixed and not just given lip service. It's time. Australia is a rich country. She can afford to fix herself. Let's stop hiding the shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Well actually thee isn't. Plenty of space I mean. Sydney and Melbourne are increasingly having infrastructure severely challenged, owing to rapid increasing population. Regardless of when it happened language can and does incite. Both sides will something tell me never find consensus on the correct terminology. You're right about terminology flag. No matter what comments are made on anything there's always some twitter or other social media idiot who will disagree and argue about the slightest thing. It's all getting tedious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 As I've said before. It's time the issue was fixed and not just given lip service. It's time. Australia is a rich country. She can afford to fix herself. Let's stop hiding the shame. Nothing needs fixing and there is no need for anyone to feel ashamed. Why should we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pb65 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 So i guess taking this to a logical/illogical conclusion you could say tongue in cheek that all new immigrants are 'invaders' although maybe not as they are being invited in and Cook was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I'm still smarting at those nasty people who stole my family's lands just because they were Quakers. Not to mention those dreadful Vikings who came over as if they owned the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Nothing needs fixing and there is no need for anyone to feel ashamed. Why should we? Seriously? You think nothing needs fixing? You have a third world living within the country. It needs fixing. It's disgusting. It's ****ing embarrassing that this has been allowed to go on. The fault doesn't only lie with white society, and the responsibility to fix it lies with both. You have conditions worse than some of the worse refugee camps. Ffs? Nothing needs fixing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Seriously? You think nothing needs fixing? You have a third world living within the country. It needs fixing. It's disgusting. It's ****ing embarrassing that this has been allowed to go on. The fault doesn't only lie with white society, and the responsibility to fix it lies with both. You have conditions worse than some of the worse refugee camps. Ffs? Nothing needs fixing? I guess another way of looking at it is, if there is no need to feel ashamed, are you all proud of the current situation??? http://www.amnesty.org.au/indigenous-rights/comments/37328/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Nothing needs fixing and there is no need for anyone to feel ashamed. Why should we? So is that it Paul? The right has no suggestions on how to fix this problem? Or you are just too tight to spend the money, and you'd like another jet ski for the kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal2 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 You display a severe lack of understanding of historical context. May I suggest you do some further research around the subject?[/QUOT What a vague statement, care to expand and explain? Your suggestion that I'm somewhat ignorant on the subject is ironical considering your lack of knowledge about me. Further research is not required by me, as I said don't put everyone in the same pot. You are what you say, Harpodom - "You display a severe lack of understanding of historical context. May I suggest you do some further research around the subject?" right back at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pommy Jimbo Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Yes, terra nullius is no justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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