VERYSTORMY Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 We have recently learnt the hard way about this - myself and chihuahua were attacked by two mastiff hunting dogs (in a residential area) that were not accompanied. The little one suffered horrific injuries - imagine a 3kg dog with 45 stitches. I have puncture wounds to both arms and hands from rescuing him. This is according to the rangers occurring about twice a day. The owner has been traced and will receive a $50 fine. They will not be forced to pay anything toward the 4 figure vet bill. She refuses to apologize, the dogs were not wearing collars or registered. What do you think the sentence should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaver Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 My god. Just 50$. Why bother? That's ridiculous Are you better now? And how is your poor wee dog? That's truly awful Edited to answer your question. Put the owner in a pit with lots of wild dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisher1 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Absolute minimum requirement should be making good the victim's expenses. Followed by a hefty fine, dogs put to sleep. What if it had been a child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 It wasn't you on the news was it Stormy?? I would contact the Ranger..sure you already have.... You may recall our greyhound was attacked and nearly died 5 months ago, she was on-lead and an unrestrained dog ran from a house and attacked her The owner was remorseful, voluntarily euthanised the dog If they had not..the penalty would have been conviction for a dangerous dog...they would have had to put signage up and muzzle the dog (would have been declared dangerous) As it was they were fined $500 for unlicenced dog and dog attack My thoughts are with you...I can fully empathise. Hope your pup recovers very soon edited to add...police didnt want to know in our case either..only intervene in case of human attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 She should of course pay all of your vet bills and a whole lot more to be honest. I tend to think it is the owners and not the dogs who are at fault. There are too many dogs that have not been socialised well as pups, not trained and who have been left to fend for themselves hour upon hour in a back yard. Of course they have no idea how to approach or behave with other dogs. I hope your pup recovers soon xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisher1 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Not that I'm trying to suggest your poor little love is not important, and hope your dog recovers soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaver Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 It wasn't you on the news was it Stormy?? I would contact the Ranger..sure you already have.... You may recall our greyhound was attacked and nearly died 5 months ago, she was on-lead and an unrestrained dog ran from a house and attacked her The owner was remorseful, voluntarily euthanised the dog If they had not..the penalty would have been conviction for a dangerous dog...they would have had to put signage up and muzzle the dog (would have been declared dangerous) As it was they were fined $500 for unlicenced dog and dog attack My thoughts are with you...I can fully empathise. Hope your pup recovers very soon edited to add...police didnt want to know in our case either..only intervene in case of human attack My god. I didn't know about this either. How many of these attacks are going on? And how is your dog now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Les Patterson Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Lead Aspro normally fixes the mongrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaver Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Lead Aspro normally fixes the mongrels. By "mongrels" do you mean the owners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Les Patterson Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 By "mongrels" do you mean the owners? no...the dogs......the owners....probably 10 strokes of "The Cat" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 My dog is fully recovered thanks @weaver. Her physical scars finally healed last week...5 months to heal a massive open wound (the stitched area broke down as skin and tissue was dead..extensive tissue damage) She's left with a baldy dented area but she's alive and happy. Our mental scars are slowly healing but will never walk her without one eye on surrounding area and an apprehensive caution of other dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Any uncontrolled dog is dangerous. A lively young Dalmatian was "just playing". But scared my son many years back. I still have nightmares as he ran away and came so close to being killed by a truck. He was 5 and not used to dogs. I knew it was just a playful lively dog. To him it was a huge threat. The owner could not understand why I was angry with him for not controlling the dog. Tbh it should have been on a lead in a family pub car park. I know the dog wouldn't have harmed my boy but the truck would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobj Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Really sad, mate. Love those little chihuahuas. Remember the squirt bottle remedy I sent to you as a PM? Make it full strength, NH3. Cheers, Bobj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellers and Whitehead Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 It's awful for all the dogs involved...it's the humans fault in most cases where they bring out the worst in the dogs! Sounds like the owner should be banned from having pets and charged. I hate that the dogs get the wrap for hurting others, it is general bad parenting from the humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindor Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I feel sorry for the dogs. In my opinion owners are 100% to blame! for not having properly trained dogs and having the wrong type of dog as pets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 shoot the owners and retrain the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Have you considered civil action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortlepuss Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Seems to be little protection from the law. I'm quite surprised really - you would think payment of vet bills would be a minimum. A name and shame story in the local press could work (especially if you have access to a child who could pose with the wounded dog)In QLD you'd probably get fined more for not crossing the road using a pedestrian crossing. Much as I love dogs, I don't see why lack of control of dangerous dogs is any different from possession of other weapons such as guns and such dogs should not be allowed to roam free in residential areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 The rangers were excellent. The police worse than useless. We initially called the police as the rangers close at 5pm and it was 6pm. There were two of these huge mastiffs out. We are very close to the beach and kids starting to come home from the beach. So called the police. There attitude stank. "oh, we don't do anything about that, just call the ranger tomorrow". The rangers have been wonderful. Visited us and our dog and spoke to the vets and have traced the owner. They can't prosecute as she doesnt live in the jurisdiction. So all they can do is an infringement. But can't even enforce it / make her pay. She has told the ranger she will pay the vet bill. But even the ranger is skeptical of that - she isn't working apparently and so we are unlikely to see anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The rangers were excellent. The police worse than useless. We initially called the police as the rangers close at 5pm and it was 6pm. There were two of these huge mastiffs out. We are very close to the beach and kids starting to come home from the beach. So called the police. There attitude stank. "oh, we don't do anything about that, just call the ranger tomorrow". The rangers have been wonderful. Visited us and our dog and spoke to the vets and have traced the owner. They can't prosecute as she doesnt live in the jurisdiction. So all they can do is an infringement. But can't even enforce it / make her pay. She has told the ranger she will pay the vet bill. But even the ranger is skeptical of that - she isn't working apparently and so we are unlikely to see anything. Mastiffs are big dogs, they can't be cheap to keep. You are lucky they didn't seriously harm you. It really sucks that people can be that irresponsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound4Tassie Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Behind every dangerous dog there is an irresponsible owner. Dogs are not born bad. Humans let them down by not socialising them as pups...or worse, actively training them to be aggressive to other dogs or people. And if you happen to inherit a dog with aggression eg adopting one that someone else has already wrecked, then the owner needs to be responsible enough to keep it on lead/muzzled and ensure it cannot escape from the garden house. This woman should have the dogs removed and be banned from owning another dog. She should also be responsible for your vet bill and if she cant pay the whole bill needs to do some sort of community service. I hope the scars emotional and physical fade with time x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Remember all dogs are not alike, like humans some are intelligent some are thick some might have an evil trait no matter how well they are brought up just like humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound4Tassie Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Remember all dogs are not alike, like humans some are intelligent some are thick some might have an evil trait no matter how well they are brought up just like humans. Certainly dogs ( and children) have different personality traits but none are born inherently evil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Certainly dogs ( and children) have different personality traits but none are born inherently evil! mmmmmm, dont know, some children are born and have nothing but love bestowed on them who turn out to be nasty before they even go to school, I think there is definitely a gene that makes some people more angry than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 I generally agree that owners are responsible. But I think a lot of owners simply don't understand their dogs / breed. If you chose to own a dog known for hunting and is large then the realisty is it should never be let off it's lead or even on a lead without someone that can control it physically. I am nursing my dogs wounds - 45 stitches and in the vets words very lucky to be alive, but also my own (both arms and hands). I personally think the penalty should be in years (double figures). I have owned guns most of my life. What this person done is no different than sending a couple of high powered bullets down a high street. That would result in a very serious sentence. So why should malpractice of a 4 legged weapon be any different. Likewise other "misdemeanors" if your dog threatens, you should face the same penalty as a loon with a gun. Both can kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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