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Guest michael.rankin12@bt

check out my bad spelling in last post. AUSTRALIA. before someone corrects me

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Guest Gollywobbler
no the web-site did not hold up. it crashed with a few hours to go and we were stuck in the middle of it. thanks austarlia!

 

Hi Michael

 

It appears that the Minister and DIAC's Top Brass decided (and announced) that they would continue to accept visa applications until 23:59:59 AEST on Friday 7th May.

 

However none of the Top Brass remembered to tell the IT guys who maintain the on-line e-visa system. The upshot was that as IT people took the e-visa application form off line at 23:30 AEST on the night of Friday 7th May 2010.

 

Were you caught up in that last half-hour?

 

Thanks

 

Gill

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Ok, now I am a bit confused.

I thought the SOL was being re-written. From what I read here the only way you will get an off shore visa is to get sponsored by an employer. Is that correct.

 

I am an electrical engineer and have state sponsorship from Queensland, skills assessment etc. Only just got back off holiday so could not put in visa (sponsorship arrived day before I left).

 

Is all my paper work now worthless or is this just a blip?

 

As said I am well confused.

 

Doc

 

Hi Doc

 

Welcome to Poms in Oz.

 

I think that Christopher McGrath is right. Today's Federal Budget is nowhere near as bad for Aussie visas as I thought it would be.

 

At the moment, about 40,000 visas a year are available for applicants for GS< (skilled independent) visas. The Minister intends to cut that number by 3,600 - so call it 36,500 GSM visas, roughly. At the same time, he proposes to increase the number of employer-sponsored skilled visas for Permanent Residency by about 9,000 visas a year.

 

I don't think this is too bad at all.

 

Whereabouts in Oz are you thinking of heading for?

 

Cheers

 

Gill

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yes i was but our agent says the system crashed much sooner as he only got limited applications submitted and most of those he did were ready just to submit. now i have to wait for june and see if my wife's job is on csl!

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we were intended for queensland as we have quite a few friends there and we love it. however we can not get state sponsor there at present. so we have option of VICT, S.A. OR W.A. i am an electric cable jointer and my wife is a first class pastry chef/cake decorator.

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Hi Gill/Mike.

 

My wife daughter and me want to head to Bris.

 

As stated I have state sponsorship and now need to wait and see if my skills make it through to the next SOL, hopefully all will be well.

 

Mike I am surprised that cable jointer is not skills list for Queensland.

 

Where are you now Gill, in UK or Aus?

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yes i was but our agent says the system crashed much sooner as he only got limited applications submitted and most of those he did were ready just to submit. now i have to wait for june and see if my wife's job is on csl!

 

Hi Michael

 

In your shoes, I would mutter warmly in the agent's ear.

 

The e-visa lodgement system did NOT crash. It held up remarkably well under pressure as a matter of fact.

 

What actually happened was that the IT guys had planned to take it off line for "routine maintenance" for some time, apparently. Their plan was to take it off-line from 23:30 on 7th May until 01:00 on 8th May. Which is precisely what they did.

 

The Office of the MARA is the registration, regulatory and disciplinary body for Registered Migration Agents. DIAC manage the OMARA on behalf of the Minister for Immgration. Christine Sykes is the CEO of the OMARA and Stephen Wood is her Deputy. Both of them have worked for DIAC for donkey's years and are pretty senior DIAC Officers, hence DIAC decided that they have enough skill and experience to take charge of discharging the duties of the MARA and managing an annual budget for the OMARA of around $5 million AUD for 2010-2011.

 

Anybody alleging to Christine Sykes that the DIAC e-lodgement system "crashed" last Friday night is giving a guaranteed promise that Ms Sykes Or Mr Wood will contact DIAC's e-visa people in order to find out exactly what happened and whether or not they agree with allegations that the system 'crashed.'

 

Over the weekend, somebody on Poms in Oz posted some words that had appeared on the DIAC website last Friday night. It might have been claireg but I am not sure. The quote is in blue, is quite long and is on one of the threads on PiO. The quote reveals that the system did not crash but was taken off line deliberately and that the people in charge of making the earlier announcement about the Minister's Latest Antics evidently did not think to contact the e-visa maintenance people to tell them NOT to do the routine maintenance that they were planning to do from 23:30 onwards last Friday night.

 

Hopefully the person who made the post I have described above will help you to find it.

 

If your Agent had contacted you and had told you that there was not enough time for the Agent to lodge a visa application for you, would you have been able to drop everything to lodge it yourself last Friday, Michael?

 

https://www.mara.gov.au/

 

https://www.mara.gov.au/Consumer-Information/Making-a-complaint-about-a-RMA/default.aspx

 

If I were an RMA, I wouldn't dare to blame DIAC's computer for letting a client down when the OMARA can get the details of the exact workings of the DIAC computer in less than 24 hours.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

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Ok, now I am a bit confused.

I thought the SOL was being re-written. From what I read here the only way you will get an off shore visa is to get sponsored by an employer. Is that correct.

 

I am an electrical engineer and have state sponsorship from Queensland, skills assessment etc. Only just got back off holiday so could not put in visa (sponsorship arrived day before I left).

 

Is all my paper work now worthless or is this just a blip?

 

As said I am well confused.

 

Doc

I think most people in the queue will hold on until the SMP's are released then everyone will know what is going on. I suppose the next problem will be when the states announce their SMP along with the cap they have put upon the numbers they will allow via this route, it could be very low.

 

It is quite likely that the main route to Australia will be via employer sponsorship which will mean finding a job before submitting a visa. Good luck to all.

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Mooney,

 

From what Gollywobbler said there has only been a reduction in GS places of 10% or so. As I already have SS from queensland should I not be able to apply after the new SOL is released, provided my skill is on the the new SOL?

 

Doc

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Guest michael.rankin12@bt

thanks for clearing that up. i didn't have enough time to lodge it myself. my wife received her trade recog. on the morning of the 7th uk time. i went to work and later was informed by my agent about the deadline. so it took me an hour to get home and do everything i could form -wise, fax it to my agent etc. he phoned me in the last half hour to give me the bad news so i was just unlucky enough to be in the last half hour. we will be totally ready next time.

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can i still find out about cable jointer being on the queensland skills list? as this is where we wanted to go. as it turned out i have been informed that you should get state sponsorship before you apply for visa which we hadn,t done. is this correct?

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Guest michael.rankin12@bt

you think i haven't thought of that. lol. i like what the australian idea of controlling immigration and wish they had same idea in the uk. however it is very frustrating and stressfull being in the system! you always have to second guess what they are going to do. you think you have moved forward but HANG ON they have now said this and that and so on! aaaaaaggggghhhhh!!!

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can i still find out about cable jointer being on the queensland skills list? as this is where we wanted to go. as it turned out i have been informed that you should get state sponsorship before you apply for visa which we hadn,t done. is this correct?

 

Hi Michael

 

Cable jointer is not an occupation that QLD are sponsoring people for at the moment.

 

About the site - www.gov.au

 

Work Live Play

 

Please follow the links in the Migration section above, which will lead to QLD's eligibility lists.

 

It is not imperative or even necessarily desirable to have State sponsorship in place prior to making a visa application. Last Friday the priority was to make the visa applications promptly and to worry about everything else later because people have to be "in it in order to win it," if you see what I mean.

 

Why did your agent faff about with wasting time by asking you to send information to her instead of advising you to get on with it and to submit your visa application yourselves rather than all of you gambling on whether or not your agent would have enough time to submit it for you instead? Why didn't your agent simply copy George Lombard, as I have described on the link below?

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/85734-special-thanks-george-lombard-other-agents.html

 

What is your wife's occupation, please?

 

Cheers

 

Gill

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Our current PM relies on back flips.

 

He is very like George Brown a true socialist who believes in the New World Order.

 

Political correctness is being pushed down our throats too, as is Multiculturism.

 

He has got us heavily in debt to China we had a good surplus when Rudd was elected, now we are billions in debt.

 

If he gets another term Australia will no longer be a democracy, so I hope to god that the Libs get back in.

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i would have done it myself if i had more time. it was sprung on me at work i had to leave work and go home and do what i could in time i had left. i was under the impression that this was sprung on agents in uk as well. i had to make a quick decision. we are both really upset by this. my wife's occupation is pastry cook/ cake decorator. she got TRA back on the morning of 7th may.

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Hi Michael

 

Cable jointer is not an occupation that QLD are sponsoring people for at the moment.

 

About the site - www.gov.au

 

Work Live Play

 

Please follow the links in the Migration section above, which will lead to QLD's eligibility lists.

 

It is not imperative or even necessarily desirable to have State sponsorship in place prior to making a visa application. Last Friday the priority was to make the visa applications promptly and to worry about everything else later because people have to be "in it in order to win it," if you see what I mean.

 

Why did your agent faff about with wasting time by asking you to send information to her instead of advising you to get on with it and to submit your visa application yourselves rather than ll of you gambling on whether or not your agent would have enough time to submit it for you instead? Why didn't your agent simply copy George Lombard, as I have described on the link below?

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/85734-special-thanks-george-lombard-other-agents.html

 

What is your wife's occupation, please?

 

Cheers

 

Gill

 

 

Gill

 

There are some strange posts in gettingdownunder where some people who have applied in August 2007 are getting case officers. I would like u to read and comment on it.

 

It is at August 2007 Australian Visa Applicants

 

Please go through the posts.

 

Rahul

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Guest michael.rankin12@bt

can i apply for state sponsor now? whats the deadline all about with this (14th may)?

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Its offical I'm confused about this suspension on the gsm, how or will it effect the people who have already applied?:arghh:

Hi Huggesy,

 

If you already have lodged your application before 8th May, you have nothing to worry about. The suspension is only for new applications.

 

 

John

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You know what I've just decided to let things roll on..And be totally positive that I'll hear one day, I'm a firm believer in 'What's meant to be..Is meant to be'....So I will no longer check my emails every morning as soon as I wake up...:wub:and at least 4 times a day........

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i would have done it myself if i had more time. it was sprung on me at work i had to leave work and go home and do what i could in time i had left. i was under the impression that this was sprung on agents in uk as well. i had to make a quick decision. we are both really upset by this. my wife's occupation is pastry cook/ cake decorator. she got TRA back on the morning of 7th may.

 

Hi Michael

 

I gather that the bombshell was dropped at about 4pm Canberra time on Friday 7th May 2010. Canberra is GMT + 10 Hrs at present, or 9 hours ahead of the UK which is now on British Summer Time, as you know.

 

I gather that there was no special warning or information given to migration agents in Oz. It seems that this completely unexpected and unheralded announcement was just suddenly made via the DIAC website, late on a Friday afternoon when the agents in the Eastern half of Oz must have been thinking about making tracks for home after a week's work, I would think.

 

It was obvious from the announcement that the cut-off time was midnight AEST on 7th May. That would have been 3pm in the UK. It was about 8am in the UK when the news broke.

 

My own view is that agents in the UK would have had an easier time of things than their colleagues in Oz. The ones in the UK were refreshed after a night's sleep and were just beginning their day's work. The ones in Oz had to cancel everything and simply carry on working late into the night in Eastern Oz. No matter how tired they were, they had to keep answering questions, submitting visa applications and so on.

 

Can i apply for state sponsor now? whats the deadline all about with this (14th may)?

 

14th May is no good to you! That is a deadline imposed by South Australia but SA insist that they will only process an application for State sponsorship if an application for a visa has already been made - which it has not been, in your case.

 

 

The only State whose website does not say that it will not accept an application for SS in your situation is the ACT:

 

Business and Industry Development - ACT Government Sponsorship Opportunities

 

They are willing to consider offering SS to a Pastry Chef. It is on their Baseline list of occupations. However, it could well be that they have stopped accepting new SS applications. It could simply be that is the people who look after ACT Government's Immigration website simply haven't had time to post anything that Julianne O'Brien wants to say. She is the boss of the ACT's Immigration Department.

 

I'd be inclined to phone the ACT migration office as soon as they open for business (about 8am onwards Aussie time.) In your shoes, I'd ring them to discuss the situation with them. Please see the link below:

 

State and Territory Migration Sites - australia.gov.au

 

They might well say that they are not accepting any new applications for SS but I wouid be inclined to ask them, to make sure.

 

I'm not sure that an application for SS would really help you, though, because DIAC would not accept a subsequent visa application from you.

 

I think that my feeling with you is to find out what the ACT's attitude is. If they say they would accept an application for SS then speak to your agent immediately you can do so on Friday, tomorrow, to find out whether the agent thinks it would really be worth bothering with an application to the ACT at the moment.

 

Good luck, hun.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

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