Dismal England reactions?

[VERYSTORMY]

Lol, I'm getting the opposite reaction - we're moving back to the UK in April and everyone is like "Wow, awesome opportunity!" and I'm like "Noooo, I love Melbourne too much!". I'm sure it will be nice to see all our old friends and for our kids to spend time with DH's family but I'm going to miss my mummy friends over here. Been looking at rentals in Hertfordshire/Cambridgeshire and we are defo going to have to downgrade from what we have in Aus :-( And I nearly fell over at the cost of a rail season ticket to London :-O I'm consoling myself with the fact I can stay home with the kids and if the weather gets truly awful, disappear off to Europe for some sunshine.

 

There is zero reason to have to work / commute into London.

[MelT]

Have to agree with some of the school comments, I do feel for you, My Aussie daughter has commented the same , make-up, handbags etc ,there are a few Chav's as she calls them in her classes, however she has made a good small set of friends (3-4) same as in adelaide and to be honest, she also had Chav's in Adelaide even in her private school - just different accents and different clothes, it's life skill to be able to spot these people and navigate around them wherever you live. The clothes and appearance do not indicate the integrity of the person. Here projected GCES'a are looking mid-top band and that's where she needs to be.

 

We applied in-year, and our location was dictated by schools (minimum ofstead outstanding in all categories at least the preceding year) and not work (I work up in london , so any rail working network is fine lol ), we also had the kids baptised catholic in Oz which was very useful as our two teenagers went to the top of the queue and we had 2 Catholic schools to choose and one Grammar for each (had a bizarre father ted style interview to get them in lol, my CoE aussie wife thought it was hilarious)! Our youngest goes to the local village CoE, and that's been fine so far, except there is a little small mindedness amongst the local villagers on a certain topic, which my wife as an born and bred aussie stays well out of.

 

Our big key thing is that the school we have chosen is excellent at pastoral care, tuition and managing learning difficulties, our child is doing far far better than in Oz.

 

We had no issues with banks, security etc, I worked in law/criminal in Oz (lol that sounds wrong) but you get the jist. I also know how to push through the process and get things moving, even with no history of rental, no credit rating (which is a scam here to be honest) we managed a beautiful cottage in east sussex, pets no problem, bbq and open firepit, boys learning to shoot, and now a cat that hates me....

 

As regards friends, my wife is not entirely delighted that most of my old mates are still around London and we catchup whenever we can, but many have moved away and our life now revolves around the children - as it did in Oz, no difference there.

 

As regards Tuition fees, I don't think Australia is any cheaper , even with CSP , I had two chaps working for me in sydney in 2012 that had debts in the low 100's, and that was for a basic degree.

 

Weather is what you make of it, I've cycled in 38 degrees in Sydney/adelaide and -4 here in UK/Europe and the saying that there is no such thing as bad weather just bad clothing.

 

the big difference we notice with UK (east sussex) vs australia (adelaide) is the options presented, options for work, travel, play, courses, experience, learning, experience etc, we felt intellectually stifled, narrow and closed down in adelaide. Our network of friends that we have now regular contact with extends to Ireland, Africa, France, Channel Islands and the US (might pause on that while things settle down)....

 

For us its a journey, we are both Aus and EU citizens having lived in UK for many years prior to going out to oz, and it is always valuable to have options, right now Europe/Uk is where we

 

 

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[MelT]

Have to agree with some of the school comments, I do feel for you, My Aussie daughter has commented the same , make-up, handbags etc ,there are a few Chav's as she calls them in her classes, however she has made a good small set of friends (3-4) same as in adelaide and to be honest, she also had Chav's in Adelaide even in her private school - just different accents and different clothes, it's life skill to be able to spot these people and navigate around them wherever you live. The clothes and appearance do not indicate the integrity of the person. Here projected GCES'a are looking mid-top band and that's where she needs to be.

 

We applied in-year, and our location was dictated by schools (minimum ofstead outstanding in all categories at least the preceding year) and not work (I work up in london , so any rail working network is fine lol ), we also had the kids baptised catholic in Oz which was very useful as our two teenagers went to the top of the queue and we had 2 Catholic schools to choose and one Grammar for each (had a bizarre father ted style interview to get them in lol, my CoE aussie wife thought it was hilarious)! Our youngest goes to the local village CoE, and that's been fine so far, except there is a little small mindedness amongst the local villagers on a certain topic, which my wife as an born and bred aussie stays well out of.

 

Our big key thing is that the school we have chosen is excellent at pastoral care, tuition and managing learning difficulties, our child is doing far far better than in Oz.

 

We had no issues with banks, security etc, I worked in law/criminal in Oz (lol that sounds wrong) but you get the jist. I also know how to push through the process and get things moving, even with no history of rental, no credit rating (which is a scam here to be honest) we managed a beautiful cottage in east sussex, pets no problem, bbq and open firepit, boys learning to shoot, and now a cat that hates me....

 

As regards friends, my wife is not entirely delighted that most of my old mates are still around London and we catchup whenever we can, but many have moved away and our life now revolves around the children - as it did in Oz, no difference there.

 

As regards Tuition fees, I don't think Australia is any cheaper , even with CSP , I had two chaps working for me in sydney in 2012 that had debts in the low 100's, and that was for a basic degree.

 

Weather is what you make of it, I've cycled in 38 degrees in Sydney/adelaide and -4 here in UK/Europe and the saying that there is no such thing as bad weather just bad clothing.

 

the big difference we notice with UK (east sussex) vs australia (adelaide) is the options presented, options for work, travel, play, courses, experience, learning, experience etc, we felt intellectually stifled, narrow and closed down in adelaide. Our network of friends that we have now regular contact with extends to Ireland, Africa, France, Channel Islands and the US (might pause on that while things settle down)....

 

For us its a journey, we are both Aus and EU citizens having lived in UK for many years prior to going out to oz, and it is always valuable to have options, right now Europe/Uk is where we choose.

 

We maybe moving back to East Sussex within 2 years. Would you mind me asking what school you chose in the end? Our son has leaning difficulties and gets minimal help here at his Private School in Australia, and we are constantly having to fight for this. In the UK he would receive more help under the SEND program. Sorry for being nosy but it is a genuine ask.....

 

 

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[Bobths]

There is zero reason to have to work / commute into London.

 

Unless your hubby is getting an all expenses paid and organised transfer there by his Aussie employer:wink:. He will only be doing 3 days in the office and working from home for the other 2 days (hopefully). I wouldn't ever move back to Manchester - even the thought of all the rain depresses me.

[MelT]

Hi, we moved back to the UK 2.5 years ago after spending 8 years away. Some years in Perth and some in Melbourne. My daughters were 5 and 6 when we moved out there and so teenagers when we came back. It was me ( the wife!) of the family who wanted to leave (and I had for a quite a while) everyone else was perfectly happy. Within 4 weeks of being back I started to wonder " why on earth did I want to come back" and 2.5 years later I still feel that way and I have a lot of regrets about leaving Australia. Basically I let my heart lead rather than head and I know that some say that you should follow your heart...

 

Reasons for leaving: I wanted to see more of family and old friends; even after 8 years I didn't feel "at home" and I found it difficult to make close friends other than with other English people (despite trying hard and taking up opportunities when they presented, although maybe I could have tried harder..); I struggled with the high temperatures in the Summer (and didn't want to move to Tasmania nor somewhere like SW WA- as lovely as they are for a holiday); for some bizarre reason I wanted my daughters to be able to access UK Universities as domestic students rather than overseas (need 3 yrs residency) etc and so the list goes on. UK University fees are now some of the most expensive in the World, higher that in Australia (taking into account Commonwealth loans etc)..

 

So anyway our experiences of coming back. I will just mention that we were very lucky and my husband had also been offered 2 different jobs back here in the UK at the time, both as good (and one even better) than his job in Australia so we didn't come back to unemployment and he could well have eventually been made redundant in Australia due to a downturn in the mining industry and manufacturing. Anyway, the bottom line is that it was a complete hassle and frankly a nightmare at times in trying to sort out and establish life here again in the UK. By that I mean it was a nightmare trying to get school places (all schools are full and frankly there are not a lot of good ones in the State Sector in the area we had to live- dictated by job). Dealing with the LEA was like dealing with the military. Rude, unhelpful and totally lacking in flexibity. Despite the fact that we were born and bred here, still had UK bank accounts, NHS numbers, NI numbers and the fact that my husband was employed immediately it was very difficult and a hassle trying to sort other things out like getting reasonable car insurance, securing a house rental etc etc. The rental market in the UK is in crisis, there is little affordable decent accommodation available unless you want to live somewhere very remote (outer Hebrides maybe?). I know I am sounding negative and obviously we did get sorted eventually but it was extremely difficult despite the fact that are British Citizens, born and lived here for 40 years, paid taxes and NI for over 20 yrs etc. Why so difficult? The UK wasn't exactly welcoming so prepare yourselves for that.. When we moved to Australia, it was 100% easier. From school places to car insurance to bank accounts etc.. Everyone was pleased to have us there and to have our business. There is no doubt that during our 8 years away (2006-2014) the UK had changed a lot. A big obsession with security checks etc etc.

 

On starting at secondary school my daughters were initially horrified.. and said they couldn't stay there they had to leave. Everyone (girls) were made upto the nines in makeup, carrying handbags, gossiping and there were/ are many miserable depressed faces. At their High school in Australia there was no make up, lots of fun and kids were happy. They have settled now and made some friends but only the other day my youngest daughter said she missed talking about books they had read with friends at school (she is 15); here it is frowned upon by peers to show/admit that you actually read. So unless you can afford the exhorbitant fees of an independent school, be warned about most State Secondary Schools here in the UK. That said my eldest daughter has just got 12A*s in her GCSE's last Summer but it was down to sheer hard work on her part (and maybe from coming from such a good Education in Australia) and not to do with teaching. Apparently half the time teachers don't turn up on many occasions, there are kids swearing (at teachers and others), asleep at the desk, over 30+ in the class and so on. So frankly up against all that she did pretty well. I will just mention I am not talking about a rough inner city school here it's one in a nice semi rural area of W Sussex.

 

You are probably hoping there is no more but what else!? The hope of meeting up with family and old friends has been a complete disappointment (apart from parents and maybe a couple of old friends to be fair). Most friends have either not wanted to meet up or are just too busy.. Everyone here is much too busy and stressed compared to Australia. I know someone reading this might say why would anyone want to meet up with such a whinger (!). Point taken I am just trying to give a true picture. Frankly people won't make the effort, or don't have time or have simply moved on- probably a combination of all 3. Anyway I have stopped trying as have got the message and one new friend I have made who has lived overseas many years has in their wisdom advised- on coming back from overseas you have to start afresh. Make a new life with new friends etc as people just don't want to know- there will always be one or two old friends for whom this isn't the case but generally it is the case. They were right, you can't just slip back easily and you do have to start again.

 

Now I haven't even started on the weather.!I found Australian Summers stifling- I like the outdoors, walking and the like and couldn't do it for several months or not properly anyway. But I have found the grey, damp weather for a good half year or more as you find in the UK very depressing. I never wished life along in Australia whereas every Oct to March I wishing for it to be Spring again..

 

I haven't got into the disgraceful roads here (pot hole after pot hole), high taxes (making you feel quite poor and bear in mind high Council taxes- payable even as a tenant unlike in Oz)d), heavy traffic and overcrowding (yes health service in a crisis- all about juggling figures and not patient care) and then couple with all this there is this constant bombardment in the news now about Brexit, terrorism everywhere you go (esp Europe etc).

 

Anyway sorry to be so negative but truly think very carefully about throwing it all in and coming back. Think about your children's future. We have Citizenship so may well turn around one day and go back but are tied here now due to job, finishing education etc so are now trying to make the most of things.

 

What do I like about the UK? Apart from being able to see parents of course, then what I do like is what I would describe as "the depth" pf people. When someone asks how you are or speaks to you, perhaps just in a shop etc they seem to genuinely mean what they are saying.. There is a certain genuine friendliness that I didn't feel in Australia, even with strangers. The quirkiness of the UK. It's scruffy in many parts but there is character.. Whatever others might say I feel that the last couple of years the job market here has been pretty good.. not sure how it will keep going in the future. Online shopping and deliveries. All huge here and brilliant service. Sometimes you even get a delivery at 10pm Saturday evening. Post delivered on a Saturday!

 

Anyway there is lots to think about and it is just our experience.

Thank you for being so honest with your experiences of moving back home.

 

It has made me reflect on why we want to move home.

 

The main reasons being:

 

1) Geneticially modified food - is freely grown, produced and sold in Australia and is highly toxic.

 

I only discovered this when i visited the uk a few years ago and a the severe allergies i had developed siince living in Australia disappeared.

 

After considerable research i discovered it was gmo which is band/limited in Europe. As there is significant scientific evidence that they cause serious health and environmental issues.

 

Since last year my son has also developed the same allergies.

 

2) support for learning disabilities

 

Our son has learning difficulties and we are constantly fighting for the private school to support him. His disability does not fit the Queensland funding model so it makes no difference private or public.

 

It was only last year (grade 7) that his teacher who is from the uk said that he would get so much more help at home in the uk. I researched this and he would qualify for the send program at home v nothing here in Australia.

 

3) Queensland has the highest rate of skin cancer in the world.

 

I, until diagnosed with an aggresive skin cancer on my face last year (fortunately removed and all clear), have been a very passionate horsey lady - ride dressage and a hiker. So being outside is the norm. But i have always been careful with sun protection as i have fair skin. So now avoid going outside. I have spent the last 5 months pretty much inside as the heat this year in Brisbane has been unbearable. I am also now very concerned for my family, especially my son who is also fair skined and the risk of skin cancer. At least you can wrap up if it is cold - not the same in the heat which i find suffocating.

 

4) to be closer to extended family

 

So really i know that it has been tough for your family to move back, any move is stressful no matter where it is. I think you are safer in the uk, free from the risks of skin cancer and free from gmo's. I cannot even eat out anymore or enjoy being ouside in Australia - so just enjoying lifes basics have been taken away..

 

 

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[Bobths]

we definitely went to a smaller house in the UK, but much larger land (farm) in east sussex, weather has been fine, doris day killed our trampoline last weekend by moving it 2-3 fields away twice. We've been back here less than 20 months and the kids have been on many adventures, Spain, Greece, Egypt, France numerous times, Ireland, Scotland and am planning mid term for disneyland paris.

 

We were in Adelaide Oz, and no matter how much the sun shines, you simply can't have a life without a livelihood.

 

Very true re life and livelihood. Not a problem for us though - we're going back because hubby misses friends and family (I miss my UK friends too, but I've had two babies in Aus so I've built up a great network of mummy friends here and my parents visit us regularly for 5/6 weeks every summer (they spend their time mostly avoiding the UK and flitting between France, Melbourne and Christchurch (where my little bro lives)).

 

I am looking forward to long summers in the south of France - Melbourne's uber changeable weather this past summer has been really irritating. Hubby assures me Cambridge is one of the driest places in England so hopefully the weather won't get me down too much. Going to miss the beach though, we live 5 mins walk away and the girls love it.

 

Farm sounds lovely, all that green space :-)

[MelT]

Thank you for being so honest with your experiences of moving back home.

 

It has made me reflect on why we want to move home.

 

The main reasons being:

 

1) Geneticially modified food - is freely grown, produced and sold in Australia and is highly toxic.

 

I only discovered this when i visited the uk a few years ago and a the severe allergies i had developed siince living in Australia disappeared.

 

After considerable research i discovered it was gmo which is band/limited in Europe. As there is significant scientific evidence that they cause serious health and environmental issues.

 

Since last year my son has also developed the same allergies.

 

2) support for learning disabilities

 

Our son has learning difficulties and we are constantly fighting for the private school to support him. His disability does not fit the Queensland funding model so it makes no difference private or public.

 

It was only last year (grade 7) that his teacher who is from the uk said that he would get so much more help at home in the uk. I researched this and he would qualify for the send program at home v nothing here in Australia.

 

3) Queensland has the highest rate of skin cancer in the world.

 

I, until diagnosed with an aggresive skin cancer on my face last year (fortunately removed and all clear), have been a very passionate horsey lady - ride dressage and a hiker. So being outside is the norm. But i have always been careful with sun protection as i have fair skin. So now avoid going outside. I have spent the last 5 months pretty much inside as the heat this year in Brisbane has been unbearable. I am also now very concerned for my family, especially my son who is also fair skined and the risk of skin cancer. At least you can wrap up if it is cold - not the same in the heat which i find suffocating.

 

4) to be closer to extended family

 

So really i know that it has been tough for your family to move back, any move is stressful no matter where it is. I think you are safer in the uk, free from the risks of skin cancer and free from gmo's. I cannot even eat out anymore or enjoy being ouside in Australia - so just enjoying lifes basics have been taken away..

 

 

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Sorry, so add to the list..

 

5) more professional working environment/attitude/opportunities

 

6) more depth to friendships (something you touched on)

 

7) more culture/history and travel opportunities...

 

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[Bridey]

Hiii I'm new to this forum in fact its my first reply. We are thinking of moving to Oz and for us the number one thing is the weather government etc aside. I agree with others, life is what you make of it, if you can get jobs etc you will be fine but I truly think if we had good weather we would be much happier. I'm sick of not being able to go out on freezing days or dark nights it makes everything look and seem gloomy and my kids are suffering. They love being out doors and doing sport but its so limited. Can I ask why you haven't settled in Oz if you don't mind. x

[Quoll]

Very true re life and livelihood. Not a problem for us though - we're going back because hubby misses friends and family (I miss my UK friends too, but I've had two babies in Aus so I've built up a great network of mummy friends here and my parents visit us regularly for 5/6 weeks every summer (they spend their time mostly avoiding the UK and flitting between France, Melbourne and Christchurch (where my little bro lives)).

 

I am looking forward to long summers in the south of France - Melbourne's uber changeable weather this past summer has been really irritating. Hubby assures me Cambridge is one of the driest places in England so hopefully the weather won't get me down too much. Going to miss the beach though, we live 5 mins walk away and the girls love it.

 

Farm sounds lovely, all that green space :-)

 

Cambridge is great - I walk almost every day and very rarely have I been unable to be out and walking. There is a family a couple of doors down from us (an older kind of street in general) and the girls are always out playing in the garden and my own grandkids adore being here and playing on the grass. The weather here is, for me, a huge plus! The walking has helped me lose a significant amount of weight - weight I put on because I spent so many days shut inside against the heat, playing on the computer!!! I've found it very easy to establish new friendships in Cambridge but it has taken effort on my part. Hope you enjoy Cambridge, it's a lovely place!!!

[amibovered]

Very true re life and livelihood. Not a problem for us though - we're going back because hubby misses friends and family (I miss my UK friends too, but I've had two babies in Aus so I've built up a great network of mummy friends here and my parents visit us regularly for 5/6 weeks every summer (they spend their time mostly avoiding the UK and flitting between France, Melbourne and Christchurch (where my little bro lives)).

 

I am looking forward to long summers in the south of France - Melbourne's uber changeable weather this past summer has been really irritating. Hubby assures me Cambridge is one of the driest places in England so hopefully the weather won't get me down too much. Going to miss the beach though, we live 5 mins walk away and the girls love it.

 

Farm sounds lovely, all that green space :-)

If Cambridge was an Australian State or Territory capital city, it would have, on average the second lowest annual rainfall, just behind Adelaide.

[bristolman]

Hiii I'm new to this forum in fact its my first reply. We are thinking of moving to Oz and for us the number one thing is the weather government etc aside. I agree with others, life is what you make of it, if you can get jobs etc you will be fine but I truly think if we had good weather we would be much happier. I'm sick of not being able to go out on freezing days or dark nights it makes everything look and seem gloomy and my kids are suffering. They love being out doors and doing sport but its so limited. Can I ask why you haven't settled in Oz if you don't mind. x

 

Perhaps the weather really is that much worse up North but the weather rarely restricts us doing anything, we were probably restricted just as much in Australia if it was too hot or torrential rain etc. I definitely wouldn't base a whole new life on the perception of better weather.

[bunbury61]

Perhaps the weather really is that much worse up North but the weather rarely restricts us doing anything, we were probably restricted just as much in Australia if it was too hot or torrential rain etc. I definitely wouldn't base a whole new life on the perception of better weather.

 

Bristol , I think we need to point out to some on here ,the days of 3ft snow drifts ,and being locked in for 3 months are over .

The Las 2 weeks have been a bit crap ...but we have had no snow for 6 years .

People drinking OUTSIDE the pub over one recent Christmas .

The weather is becoming quite acceptable ,and in no way stops you doing anything ...except sunbathing of course .

 

No days again below zero over winter .

I have scraped ice off the windscreen about 15 times this winter .

And my crombie hasn't been worn again

[Rallyman]

Don't wish to join this debate but people overlook VAT at 20% compared with GST at 10%.

 

 

Was explaining this to someone a while back and also zero rated for new builds in uk

watching TV today about up coming budget Tax is going to rise.

 

I am definitely better off in oz earn far more ,have more disposable income and better life style

Not knocking the uk as I think oz and uk are best in world just one suits people better than the other

[amibovered]

Was explaining this to someone a while back and also zero rated for new builds in uk

watching TV today about up coming budget Tax is going to rise.

 

I am definitely better off in oz earn far more ,have more disposable income and better life style

Not knocking the uk as I think oz and uk are best in world just one suits people better than the other

 

just goes to show, everyone is different, I have much more disposable income here than I did in Australia, and a better lifestyle, not that things were bad downunder, just better here.

[newjez]

Bristol , I think we need to point out to some on here ,the days of 3ft snow drifts ,and being locked in for 3 months are over .

The Las 2 weeks have been a bit crap ...but we have had no snow for 6 years .

People drinking OUTSIDE the pub over one recent Christmas .

The weather is becoming quite acceptable ,and in no way stops you doing anything ...except sunbathing of course .

 

No days again below zero over winter .

I have scraped ice off the windscreen about 15 times this winter .

And my crombie hasn't been worn again

there were a couple of cold days, and I'm sure it dipped below zero a couple of times. Pretty sure this winter was colder than last year's, but much dryer. Hardly been hampered by rain all winter.

[bunbury61]

there were a couple of cold days, and I'm sure it dipped below zero a couple of times. Pretty sure this winter was colder than last year's, but much dryer. Hardly been hampered by rain all winter.

 

Below zero ...during the day ,in brum ...not once ....at night maybe a few times...but not during the day

[bunbury61]

Below zero ...during the day ,in brum ...not once ....at night maybe a few times...but not during the day

 

We had a few days of 2 -3 c ..but not below freezing

[deryans]

We had a few days of 2 -3 c ..but not below freezing

 

 

in east sussex we had snow, quite a bit of it in fact in mid Jan this year,my aussie kids loved it, made a proper full size ball rolled snowman with charcoal and carrot and named him reginald, he lasted for a few days - we're about 300-400 feet above the main village so would be at least 1 deg colder over time. recon we're about 700-1000 feet amsl here.

 

No issues really wife has the 4x4 - kids decidedly unimpressed with our constant capability to deliver them to school, Local primary did close for 1 day, 8 year old in heaven winding up older siblings, although I did skid around a bit on my little zetec on the way to the station so took it really easy.

 

It's amazing to see how far up the embankment into the forest on the A road cars can go when they lose it.........

 

I actually like snuggling up on the sofa with a warm fire , mulled wine and a book or a game of Dictionary

[deryans]

that's Pictionary !!!! apple auto correct! GRRR

[Rallyman]

just goes to show, everyone is different, I have much more disposable income here than I did in Australia, and a better lifestyle, not that things were bad downunder, just better here.

 

 

Just shows that one size will not fit all , both have good and bad points as is life

Dont know if I will be here for ever as we don't know what roads are coming up but for now it's Australia for me.

[mrbradley1]

Don't listen to it. We've just come over from the UK. England’s economy is relatively good at the minute, there seems to be a lot going on. Unfortunately the media propaganda is the killer. every time you watch the news its doom and gloom and unfortunately it sinks into people minds whether they like or not. There are downfalls such as illegal immigration and NHS being stretched to beyond capacity but theres issues in every country you go to.

 

Although we've been here for 3 weeks in Australia, we're finding it really hard. Myself and my wife both want to work and we can't find jobs anywhere at the minute. In the UK we'd be snapped up straight away. But you've just got to get on with life and enjoy the one you've got. Good Luck!!!

[newjez]

in east sussex we had snow, quite a bit of it in fact in mid Jan this year,my aussie kids loved it, made a proper full size ball rolled snowman with charcoal and carrot and named him reginald, he lasted for a few days - we're about 300-400 feet above the main village so would be at least 1 deg colder over time. recon we're about 700-1000 feet amsl here.

 

No issues really wife has the 4x4 - kids decidedly unimpressed with our constant capability to deliver them to school, Local primary did close for 1 day, 8 year old in heaven winding up older siblings, although I did skid around a bit on my little zetec on the way to the station so took it really easy.

 

It's amazing to see how far up the embankment into the forest on the A road cars can go when they lose it.........

 

I actually like snuggling up on the sofa with a warm fire , mulled wine and a book or a game of Dictionary

mix Sussex, and not enough to get the sled down from the loft. But they did cancel the parents teachers evening.

[newjez]

 

 

that's Pictionary !!!! apple auto correct! GRRR

thought that sounded pretty damn boring!

[newjez]

Don't listen to it. We've just come over from the UK. England’s economy is relatively good at the minute, there seems to be a lot going on. Unfortunately the media propaganda is the killer. every time you watch the news its doom and gloom and unfortunately it sinks into people minds whether they like or not. There are downfalls such as illegal immigration and NHS being stretched to beyond capacity but theres issues in every country you go to.

 

Although we've been here for 3 weeks in Australia, we're finding it really hard. Myself and my wife both want to work and we can't find jobs anywhere at the minute. In the UK we'd be snapped up straight away. But you've just got to get on with life and enjoy the one you've got. Good Luck!!!

3 weeks is not a long time.

[JockinTas]

3 weeks is not a long time.

 

I've read on other threads that some new migrants haven't found work for months. :dull: That would really be a huge worry. On top of arriving in a new, strange country to not have a job (for me) would be top of the list for stress. No wonder some of them feel like packing it all in and go back home.