Rallyman

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  1. It's a terrorist attack same as the other ones , no place in society for people like this But and there always is a but , as others pointed out in other threads we need to understand the cause of these people works both ways I suppose
  2. Agree both parties have been in government over the period since they were first built , they are all the same to a degree it's about time they all started putting the people's interest first
  3. But it was a labour local government , I accept there are posters who hate the current government but people need to stop frothing it's get the country nowhere what is needed now is clear and rational thought and a process to make sure we can prevent something like this happening again, in time it will come out who signed off and agreed to what , if the products meet current legislation and regulations then there is the problem the regulations need to be updated.
  4. I agree , first priority is to help family's and people affected first hand ,and then let the inquiry do its job. I thought the government had put 8 million aside into a fund to help them ? I have recently worked on fire upgrades here in oz as a subcontractor , after 6 weeks I terminated my contract as the main contractor wanted to cut too many corners , he ordered and fitted access panels that did not comply with current regulations , it was picked up at the final inspection, and cost him more money than to have fitted the correct ones in the first place serves him right. unfortunately it's all about the bottom line today and how much people can make and save , in construction today 99% of the time it's how quick can you do the job and can you do it cheaper
  5. The reason I looked this up and posted was in response to how the mob reacted , people need to look at the big picture and not jump to conclusions before getting the full facts , to be blaming the current government is a complete joke and the way it is being played out is unreal , this never happened after the Bradford disaster the country pulled together , there are many factors involved in this tradgic accident and if any good comes from it will be the new legislation that gets put in place that will save lives in the future. I doubt many people even new there had be a new bill , did you before I posted it up ?
  6. Philp Hammond quote about the bill : "the approach to introducing new regional structures for the fire service is based on the boundaries of the Government Offices for the Regions, most of which are inappropriate for this purpose and are not sufficiently accountable in the absence of elected regional assemblies; and because some key measures to promote fire prevention, particularly requirements for greater use of sprinklers, are not strong enough or are absent in the Bill" He also asked and was against the fire service charging for extraction and wanted it addressed. He was also concerned the fire service weren't getting a proper say on the bill.
  7. The Tories opposed the new fire safety rules Labour wanted back in 2005, due to one of many reason's, it not including the widespread use of sprinklers. Phillip Hammond was the party spokesperson who stood up and told parliament that day the bill didn't go far enough on fire prevention and wanted it amending At the time labour voted not to have a 2nd reading of the Bill , this was the first time it had been updated since 1947.
  8. Just been reading up on the 2005 fire and rescue bill, interesting reading and how the vote went That this House declines to give a Second Reading to the Fire and Rescue Services Bill because the Bill is granting to the Secretary of State too many powers to intervene which is against the thrust of the Government's stated approach to modernisation of the Fire and Rescue Service and will undermine local accountability; because the approach to introducing new regional structures for the fire service is based on the boundaries of the Government Offices for the Regions, most of which are inappropriate for this purpose and are not sufficiently accountable in the absence of elected regional assemblies; and because some key measures to promote fire prevention, particularly requirements for greater use of sprinklers, are not strong enough or are absent in the Bill. Majority (No) Minority (Aye) Both Turnout Con 0 129 (+2 tell) 0 80.4% DUP 0. 2. 0 33.3% Independent 0 1 0 50.0% Ind Conservative 0 1 0 100.0% Lab. 337 (+2 tell) 0. 0 83.1% LDem 0 29. 0. 53.7% PC 4. 0. 0. 100.0% SNP 3. 0 0 60.0% UUP 0 2 0 40.0% Total: 344 164. 0 79.0% Notice the voting looking for an amendment to the bill, the fire service no longer have any say on fire regulations thanks to Labour. Fire and Rescue Services Bill — 26 Jan 2004 at 21:45 — The Public Whip
  9. Only caught bits of it on radio and TV and it's a truly shocking event and thoughts are with family and friends of the victims caught up in this , but I couldn't believe what I was watching when it showed them storming the town hall , I remember the Bradford fire and it never played out like this , what has become of the uk ?
  10. Thanks Collie
  11. So please explain why plaid have more interest in Britain than Sinn Fien ,both parties represent a minority in countries that make up Great Britain or is it diffrent now ?
  12. Well as they are democratically elected they are well within their rights to sit in Westminster ,they are the chosen representatives of the wards they stand in , as Corbyn has sided with the IRA that's already happened or have I missed something there . As to your comment that they achieved more by going on hunger strike that's pushing it to say the least ,the only comments I can remember at the time was well let them carry on at least they are not killing innocent children it certainly didn't sway people in the north wales where I am from . Do you have take a oath when becoming a MEP I don't know ? At least Nigel turns up and speaks and fights for his beliefs in Brussels
  13. No it's not difficult is , going by your view no minor parties would bother to turn up in Westminster, plaid Cymru only have a few seats and their interest is Wales but they turn up and add to the debate and voice their concerns ,they are never going to be major players but still have a voice so explain why Gerry Adams is ok to do what he does, better to discuss things than to plant bombs and kill innocent children , Gerry Adams has as much responsibility in keeping peace as the DUP maybe he should step up and show the world whst he is made of and not throw his toys out the pram if he can't get his own way
  14. I fully understand democracy but can you really defend the man ? What's the point in killing people to justify his cause get a seat at the table but then use it as a protest by not taking said seat and then complain about everything but turn up once a year to get his pieces of silver , sorry your not right on this
  15. So a man who has no intention of taking his seat in parliament , won't take the oath as a MP starts dictating terms Horrible man