Gbye grey sky Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 News in that 4 have died on the Thunder River ride at the Gold Coast theme park. My daughter and I have season passes and to my mind this was the least scary and dangerous ride you could imagine. The worst thing to expect was to get wet. Shocking. Sympathies to family and friends of those who have died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungo Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 That is terrible news. Those style rapid rides are pretty common and agree you would never consider it to be one of the dangerous or scary ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Terrible tragedy - that would have been one of my favourites. The police "jargon" was astonishing though - "4 people sustained injuries which were incompatible with life" (or something like that) sheesh, what happened to "4 people died". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Apparently it was on the Buzz Saw roller coaster - don't kniw if that is different from the Thunder River one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 We are also big fans of theme parks, have visited them the world over and was in the Gold Coast a few months ago and had a great time. We generally consider the major theme parks as a place where you can get the adrenaline pumping in a safe and secure environment, so when accidents like these happen it reminds you that none of the technology is infallible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbye grey sky Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 Apparently it was on the Buzz Saw roller coaster - don't kniw if that is different from the Thunder River one No, it was the water ride, Thunder River, not a roller coaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSTARDJ01 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 the news report said 2 adults got flung from the cart and then the cart flipped when going up the conveyor belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambethlad Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 My heart goes out to the victims' families and those Dreamworld staff and emergency service people who had to deal with the horror of this incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calNgary Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Its one of the tamest rides there and sounds like a conveyer belt the ride runs on malfunctioned. It must have been horrific, especially as reports are saying a child was pulled from the tyre just as it flipped, killing the other 4 occupants. Tragic for all involved. http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/qld/2016/10/25/dreamworld-ride-deaths/?utm_source=Responsys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20161025_NEWS_ALERT Cal x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Yeah. Just horrible. I agree with the police guy. Why can't they just say 'they tried everything they could but they were too badly hurt'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiaCapan Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Awful. I Feel for their families:-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Looks alot like the Viking ride at legoIt land. is fairly tame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike@Bonbeach Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Terrible tragedy - that would have been one of my favourites. The police "jargon" was astonishing though - "4 people sustained injuries which were incompatible with life" (or something like that) sheesh, what happened to "4 people died". Yes. I heard them say that too, ridiculous. Also the overused word "alleged" on main channel news bulletins. Even when someone is found dead to rights, it is still "alleged'. It seems everyone is afraid to sound direct or state the fact for fear of being sued for misrepresentation or something similar. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbye grey sky Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 Yes. I heard them say that too, ridiculous. Also the overused word "alleged" on main channel news bulletins. Even when someone is found dead to rights, it is still "alleged'. It seems everyone is afraid to sound direct or state the fact for fear of being sued for misrepresentation or something similar. Mike This is off-topic but the legal system requires a presumption of innocence until 'proven' guilty. This is why the word 'alleged' is used and is appropriate. Heaven help all of us if the media is permitted to determine guilt before any trial takes place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Having been on that ride many times with grandchildren I can only imagine how horrific it must have been. Even the paramedics and police require counselling because of the state of the bodies. The times we have been on it ( maybe 5 or 6 or more) we did notice that sometimes it went very,very fast and was very jerky and scary but on another day it could be really tame which we all thought was a bit odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 One thing can be almost certain. That being the amount of ducking and diving in an attempt to negate responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 One thing can be almost certain. That being the amount of ducking and diving in an attempt to negate responsibility. Alton towers was a classic example of what can go wrong. Penalties were woefully inadequate in my view. Maybe this was blameless. Hopefully they run these things better in Australia and this was just a freak accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 The ride has been running over 30 years. Probably hundreds of thousands of rides without incident. All these rides have some element of risk. Well with adequate maintenance and no cutting corners on safety there really shouldn't be an incident. Reports seem to suggest faults in the run up to this tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Alton towers was a classic example of what can go wrong. Penalties were woefully inadequate in my view. Maybe this was blameless. Hopefully they run these things better in Australia and this was just a freak accident. I agree inadequate penalties. Hopefully a freak. Last big one with considerable loss of life was the Luna Park one back in 79, I believe it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbye grey sky Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 I have to say that the last time we were there the adjacent log flume broke down twice. Once when we were near the front of the queue and the second time when we were on it. Some people were stuck at the top of the drop for about 20 minutes. In all we were stuck for the best part of an hour. The infrastructure seemed somewhat tired and poorly maintained on that ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaty Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 This is sad news.. RIP. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I have to say that the last time we were there the adjacent log flume broke down twice. Once when we were near the front of the queue and the second time when we were on it. Some people were stuck at the top of the drop for about 20 minutes. In all we were stuck for the best part of an hour. The infrastructure seemed somewhat tired and poorly maintained on that ride. it has been several years since we went there, but I remember thinking even then that Dreamworld seemed really tired and badly maintained compared to the rest of the themeparks there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Regardless of whose at fault, it looks like the CEO, a Ms Thomas will come away with her full bonus of several hundred thousand dollars, to be confirmed at the annual AGM this afternoon. Shareholders will be hit. You've just got to love the times we find ourselves inhabiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 They truly make me want to vomit these overpaid CEOs. Not their fault, I guess- we condone it by not speaking out and continuing to buy shares in the rotten companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northshorepom Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Be fair. Her compensation would have been worked out on a formula and agreed by the board a year ago and based partly on performance over the year, across the whole company of course and not just the one park. The calculation would have been made in advance of the AGM. You can't just apply an arbitrary reduction for a tragedy that occurs after the calculation and remuneration has been endorsed. That's like Joe Blow being paid $100K a year over the course of the year and if he f*cks up on Dec 31, his employer demanding half the money back. You can apply a performance reduction for the next year, and ultimately the bum's rush and maybe even a criminal prosecution, if an investigation reveals negligence at executive level. This sort of tragedy is investigated in great detail by WHS and it's very rare for prosecutions of the company at least not to be instigated. The directors if they have wilfully ignored an unsafe situation they knew about, or failed to put any system in place to try to identify safety risks in advance CEOs get sacked or removed a lot, or at least the ones that aren't themselves major shareholders do...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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