Guest spreadingwings Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 The Commonwealth Freedom of Movement Organisation is petitioning the parliaments/governments of the UK, Australia, New Zealand and Canada to allow free movement (to live and work) between the four countries. The petition started 19 days ago. 4 days ago it had 30 000 signatures. Today it's over 60 000. Add yours and give you and your family, and generations to come, the freedom to live and work in any of the major Commonwealth countries. The petition: https://www.change.org/p/parliament-of-the-united-kingdom-parliament-of-australia-parliament-of-canada-parliament-of-new-zealand-advocate-and-introduce-legislation-promoting-the-free-movement-of-citizens-between-the-uk-canada-australia-and-new-zealand The organisation: http://www.cfmo.org/ In the news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31948964 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellybingobingo Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 That's ace lol ! I wouldn't mind going Canada haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benthomas010 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 It's never going to happen. If you do something to open up to the commonwealth countries, why would you include only 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I love Canada, see you all later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 It's never going to happen. If you do something to open up to the commonwealth countries, why would you include only 4? I agree. It would be so politically incorrect to allow it for some Commonwealth countries and not others, it would never get through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booma Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 dont think many ozzies would support this. can you imagine the hoards that would come to oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungbean Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 The logo looks like they bought it second-hand off the Conservative Party. Or De Montfort University. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungo Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 An agreement between the predominantly white countries? It is never going to happen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjg Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Nah, we got enough poms here already. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellybingobingo Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Feeling positive lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boganbear Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 No I won't sign. Look at the mess the UK Is in partially due to free movement in the EU. The Commonwealth ended decades ago and since the UK turned its back on the Commonwealth when it joined the EU, Canada, Australia and NZ have gone their separate ways. The petition itself us incorrect. There is no free movement between Australia and NZ. There are conditions such as character requirement and restrictions on Kiwis receiving benefits and claiming citizenship. There is no free movement agreement between Canada and the U.S either. Australia has no trouble attracting quality migrants and it's strict migration policy is effective. Whilst there are benefits to a free migration zone, one country will take the brunt of migrants and all 3 countries have good migration policies because the do not want to end up like the UK which does not. As separate nations, each has the right to determine their own immigration policies. None of them are going to change as there is no reason to do so. They may prefer migrants from each other countries and ease restrictions but that's all that might happen. Free movement certainly won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungbean Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 The logo looks like they bought it second-hand off the Conservative Party. And oh look, the guy who's running it was vice-chair of 'Conservative Youth' for 4 years. Is this some kind of pre-election Boris-stunt? https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrskinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 If you have the skills wanted you already can get a visa to do this. Surely this is just allowing unskilled people to do the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungbean Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 all 3 countries have good migration policies because the do not want to end up like the UK which does not. I think Canada adopted Aus's points-based system anyway? This increasingly sounds like a pre-election distraction tactic to take momentum away from UKIP on the immigration agenda... The quote on the BBC website about sharing English as a "native" language will certainly raise a few hackles, not least in Quebec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spreadingwings Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 What benefit is there then to the Commonwealth, if the citizens of member countries don't enjoy practical privileges, benefits and opportunities? Perhaps the answer is to forge a new grouping between the world's top GDP countries: USA, UK, Australia, NZ, Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungbean Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Perhaps the answer is to forge a new grouping between the world's top GDP countries: USA, UK, Australia, NZ, Canada. Yeah, they could call it the G5. Or G7, 8, 20... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrutineer Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 The last free movement en masse in the Commonwealth meant millions of Asian subcontinentals and West Indians moving to London, which you might have noticed has not gone down particularly well with many people. This is talking about something different from the Commonwealth - it's cherry-picking four English-speaking countries - which is a good thing IMO and I would love freedom of movement between them, but I can assure you the governments of these nations will never do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamffc Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 It doesn't matter if 60m sign it won't happen. Do you really think any of the countries will want uncontrolled migration? I suspect they would rather carry on the current arrangements which would allow a Korean doctor but not a British brickie. And with the UK's EU membership it would effectively mean opening the door to the entire EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I love Canada, see you all later. My wife lived in Canada (Toronto) for a few years. Her Dad got a good job there and she did most of her schooling there. When we met she still had her Canadian accent, I think that was one of the attractions.:wink: When we decided to emigrate if we hadn't have gotten in here we would have tried Canada, neither of us fancied the cold weather though, even my wife wanted to come here much more and neither of us had ever been before. I don't think the petition is going to make much difference TBH. I hope not anyway. Judging by the queue of people wanting to emigrate at the embassy in Manchester when we came, Aus wouldn't be able to cope with the influx. Me and the wife have been saying how we've been spoiled in Perth since we came. We have traffic holdups now in some places and a few shopping centres are busy, it's difficult to find a parking spot sometimes.:wink: Too many people here already.:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurPendragon Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The last free movement en masse in the Commonwealth meant millions of Asian subcontinentals and West Indians moving to London, which you might have noticed has not gone down particularly well with many people. This is talking about something different from the Commonwealth - it's cherry-picking four English-speaking countries - which is a good thing IMO and I would love freedom of movement between them, but I can assure you the governments of these nations will never do this. How come the largest English speaking country in the world is not in this list? http://www.theguardian.com/education/2004/nov/19/tefl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 How come the largest English speaking country in the world is not in this list?http://www.theguardian.com/education/2004/nov/19/tefl What they speak in India is a version of English that's not quite English. Imagine the people wanting to get out of India if they were on the list and it went ahead.:shocked: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Just Canada and New Zealand would do- I think we already have something with NZ? Don't need the UK they are not choosy enough about who they allow into the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungbean Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 What they speak in India is a version of English that's not quite English. I've lived there, and it's definitely got its own vocabulary and idioms, many of which go back a couple of hundred years but have died out in the UK. I would also say the same thing about the English spoken in the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Jamaica, Singapore, Malaysia and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I've lived there, and it's definitely got its own vocabulary and idioms, many of which go back a couple of hundred years but have died out in the UK. I would also say the same thing about the English spoken in the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Jamaica, Singapore, Malaysia and others. And Derbyshire, where I'm from. When I met my wife, on holiday in Bournemouth, I was with a bunch of mates in the same hotel. For the first couple of days they thought we were German.:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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