jgt Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I wonder if anyone can tell me why that when houses are built here in WA that they don't seal around window frames. We live in a newish house and there are wide gaps around all the frames.you can hear crickets in the cavity on a night and I imagine that there are all sorts of creepy craw lies that board and lodge there. Why don't they use silicone sealant. I think there may be a business opportunity there. Wonder what you think...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flybyknight Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 We have asked ourselves the same thing. it seems you're on your own, australian's at large seem conditioned to the premise that its a warm country therefore they should live in nice looking houses that leak like a sieve. i'm afraid you are wrong with your namby pamby european living standards. you need to man up to living in damp and draught. or build your own place! i'm going the whole hog, building to passive house standards in the next year or so. i am working on the qualifications to certify such. ive spoken to a draughtproofing outfit here in the melbourne area, and they are struggling. people just dont want the service. its odd. they're quite quick to moan about fuel prices though, makes no sense at all. my guess is that a country with such money in the use of fuel, having people who understand how to save, or eliminate the use of fossil fuel is a danger to profitability. the damp in the night/mornings in the winter with single glazing must help asthmatic inhaler manufacturers too. the system will always promote the status-quo, so sadly, we're on our own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I was told to BaBaC when I inquired about double glazing - (Buy a Bigger Air conditioner ) TBH its just cheap building standards imho. If rentals are built by overseas owners, they probably have never seen the house and won't have checked the fine details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgt Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 We have asked ourselves the same thing. it seems you're on your own, australian's at large seem conditioned to the premise that its a warm country therefore they should live in nice looking houses that leak like a sieve. i'm afraid you are wrong with your namby pamby european living standards. you need to man up to living in damp and draught. or build your own place! i'm going the whole hog, building to passive house standards in the next year or so. i am working on the qualifications to certify such. ive spoken to a draughtproofing outfit here in the melbourne area, and they are struggling. people just dont want the service. its odd. they're quite quick to moan about fuel prices though, makes no sense at all. my guess is that a country with such money in the use of fuel, having people who understand how to save, or eliminate the use of fossil fuel is a danger to profitability. the damp in the night/mornings in the winter with single glazing must help asthmatic inhaler manufacturers too. the system will always promote the status-quo, so sadly, we're on our own! I'm thinking of the pest invasion too...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flybyknight Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I'm thinking of the pest invasion too...... dont buy ant sand, we use the ants to find the gaps in the house, it works pretty well. they make a nice line right to the hole. fill it then wait for the next invasion all good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1977 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Australian standards...!! Say no more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaclec Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Welcome to the third world! They have yet to understand that insulating and sealing houses makes them far more energy efficient and also helps to reduce critters too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 This is a happy thread isn't it:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaclec Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Oh sorry to complain, maybe we should just be happy that we have sub standard housing. Maybe i should lower my expectations and accept that i should not be allowed to expect better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 This is a happy thread isn't it:eek: Paul. As you know I no longer get into the Oz / uk debates. But, the ox building codes are dire. They need to have a major look including at this, insulation and demanding that all new builds have solar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Oh sorry to complain, maybe we should just be happy that we have sub standard housing. Maybe i should lower my expectations and accept that i should not be allowed to expect better. I see it like this mate: 1. leave and go to a country with building standards you like. 2. get someone in to make it good. 3. do it yourself. 4. don't buy or rent get a mobile home. If all you want to do is moan about things then things will never change, i don't get your moaning when you have a tag boasting the streets are paved with gold either? Windows have clear mastic insulation applied inside and out, external door frames also have same application, why? because i did it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaclec Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I see it like this mate: 1. leave and go to a country with building standards you like. 2. get someone in to make it good. 3. do it yourself. 4. don't buy or rent get a mobile home. If all you want to do is moan about things then things will never change, i don't get your moaning when you have a tag boasting the streets are paved with gold either? Windows have clear mastic insulation applied inside and out, external door frames also have same application, why? because i did it myself. Eh my tag is tounge in cheek ie sarcasm. I wont buy a house at the moment due to it being a house of cards property market, so currently rent which means I cannot fix said property. As for number 1 should everybody who complains about something in the country they live in **** off? LOL we would all be living in space. And actually things change when people complain not when we accept it or we would all still be unable to vote or have freedom of speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Eh my tag is tounge in cheek ie sarcasm. I wont buy a house at the moment due to it being a house of cards property market, so currently rent which means I cannot fix said property. As for number 1 should everybody who complains about something in the country they live in **** off? LOL we would all be living in space. And actually things change when people complain not when we accept it or we would all still be unable to vote or have freedom of speech. Ditto my friend, except the bit about me doing it myself as i am the bollox at repairs and stuff:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaclec Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 If I ever buy a house here I intend on bringing it into the 21st century. I find it amusing how they give houses a 6 star energy rating. These houses would not even get a building warrant in most developed countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernbird Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 This is a happy thread isn't it:eek: Don't go there mate, the same couple of posters only rear their heads on threads like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peach Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 If I ever buy a house here I intend on bringing it into the 21st century. I find it amusing how they give houses a 6 star energy rating. These houses would not even get a building warrant in most developed countries. Does Perth get a winter? Come to Canberra where temps regularly drop to -5c and below over night in winter - here you'll find double glazing, insulation and solar on new builds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaclec Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Does Perth get a winter? Come to Canberra where temps regularly drop to -5c and below over night in winter - here you'll find double glazing, insulation and solar on new builds.... You dont get any of that on new builds here and trust me being in a shed when it is 1 degree outside feels colder than being in Scotland when its -15 outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 There was a time when they didn't put double glazing on UK new builds. Then things changed. Why was this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 An argument over double glazing+Mastic is it now?on NYE?! awwww ffs,i give up:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peach Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 You dont get any of that on new builds here and trust me being in a shed when it is 1 degree outside feels colder than being in Scotland when its -15 outside Gives the Poms something else to whinge about as Sir Les would say... :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chardy Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Our new house is being built by a volume builder and has insulation in the walls at least and the grey coat render inside has nicely sealed the gap round the windows - it comes down to the builder and their own standards. Of course the general standard needs raising too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freckleface Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 IME houses are the same as anything else - you get what you pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flybyknight Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 it may seem i only chime in on this subject when i feel like a whinge, but in all honesty, flies and housing are my only 2 gripes. Australia on the whole is wonderful! i will build a proper house, then it's only the flies, and the solution to them is to chill out. they don't annoy you anywhere near as much if you just allow them to do what they do. then... relative paradise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgt Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 Wow, I was just examining the gaps down the side of the window and I could just make out the outline of the builder who built the house stuck in the cavity........should o gone to specsavers:wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chardy Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Seems little point in sealing around the frames when the single glazed windows leak like a sieve ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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