palaceboy1 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 The swop over from 103 is very small , for the last 3 months only an average of 60 per month have come out of the 103 queue and that includes withdrawals , swops , illness , etc . I think they might have been processing old 804,s to catch up with the 103 queue and I suspect that those in the queue line would generate a lot of dropouts after over 10 years in the queue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadge Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Hi, when I applied for the 143 Visa, I think the $10,000 bond was required to be held on deposit for five years, but the term was then doubled to 10 years. Does anybody know if the additional 5 year requirement applied retrospectively or only to those who applied after the change to 10 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Snowball Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, Sadge said: Hi, when I applied for the 143 Visa, I think the $10,000 bond was required to be held on deposit for five years, but the term was then doubled to 10 years. Does anybody know if the additional 5 year requirement applied retrospectively or only to those who applied after the change to 10 years? I thought the 10 years had been in longer than that. My mum applied in 2007, granted 2009 and it was a 10 year term then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theballies Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2nd Vac payments - do you send a copy of payment via email to pvc team? @Greece you just been through this super fast, did you send them an email? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palaceboy1 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Looking a bit closer at the figures issued today it seems that they are processing 804 applications far quicker than 103 , probably up to 2015 . If this is correct it seems very unfair on 143 applicants who are paying much more than those on 804,s for almost the same processing timeframes . So if you are dishonest and enter on a tourist visa and swop to a bridging visa you are being rewarded with a cheap permanent visa which is what is being touted by a certain migration agent on a different forum . It could be of course a route to closing the 103/804 visa routes to new applicants because according to their own figures only 10 new applicants between 15/10/2019 and 10/01/2020 for 103 visas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgie Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2nd Vac payments - do you send a copy of payment via email to pvc team? [mention=276812]Greece[/mention] you just been through this super fast, did you send them an email? We sent a screen shot of the bank receipt to PVC email address.Bridgie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Collett Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, palaceboy1 said: Looking a bit closer at the figures issued today it seems that they are processing 804 applications far quicker than 103 , probably up to 2015 . If this is correct it seems very unfair on 143 applicants who are paying much more than those on 804,s for almost the same processing timeframes . So if you are dishonest and enter on a tourist visa and swop to a bridging visa you are being rewarded with a cheap permanent visa which is what is being touted by a certain migration agent on a different forum . It could be of course a route to closing the 103/804 visa routes to new applicants because according to their own figures only 10 new applicants between 15/10/2019 and 10/01/2020 for 103 visas Methinks you may be misinterpreting the processing of 804s. With 804s there is an initial assessment of health and character about 2 to 3 years post lodgment. Applicants then enter a queue for many years. Are you perhaps seeing this initial assessment as the application being finalised? Best regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palaceboy1 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Alan Collett said: Methinks you may be misinterpreting the processing of 804s. With 804s there is an initial assessment of health and character about 2 to 3 years post lodgment. Applicants then enter a queue for many years. Are you perhaps seeing this initial assessment as the application being finalised? Best regards. I am talking about the 103/804 visa queue date calculator that was updated today and shows a reduction of 3760 in the 804 queue for applicants up to October 2019 . There were 5680 in the queue date 18/10/2019 on21/11/2019 which reduced to 1920 in the queue today for 27/10/2019 queue date . Have a look at the visa calculator and see how many have disappeared in the last 3 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Collett Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, palaceboy1 said: I am talking about the 103/804 visa queue date calculator that was updated today and shows a reduction of 3760 in the 804 queue for applicants up to October 2019 . There were 5680 in the queue date 18/10/2019 on21/11/2019 which reduced to 1920 in the queue today for 27/10/2019 queue date . Have a look at the visa calculator and see how many have disappeared in the last 3 months Can you give me a link to the visa calculator please? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palaceboy1 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Alan Collett said: Can you give me a link to the visa calculator please? Thanks. https://www.ecom.immi.gov.au/qcalc/QDateAnswer.do I do have a spreadsheet of dates when the calculator has been updated so it’s just a matter of subtracting the latest figures from the last update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Collett Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, palaceboy1 said: https://www.ecom.immi.gov.au/qcalc/QDateAnswer.do I do have a spreadsheet of dates when the calculator has been updated so it’s just a matter of subtracting the latest figures from the last update Ah - OK. Thanks. Best regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apparition232 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) On 21/02/2020 at 21:10, Alan Collett said: You need to include some narrative in the subject line ... Best regards. Thank you. That worked. On 22/02/2020 at 09:33, palaceboy1 said: Looking a bit closer at the figures issued today it seems that they are processing 804 applications far quicker than 103 , probably up to 2015 . If this is correct it seems very unfair on 143 applicants who are paying much more than those on 804,s for almost the same processing timeframes . So if you are dishonest and enter on a tourist visa and swop to a bridging visa you are being rewarded with a cheap permanent visa which is what is being touted by a certain migration agent on a different forum . It could be of course a route to closing the 103/804 visa routes to new applicants because according to their own figures only 10 new applicants between 15/10/2019 and 10/01/2020 for 103 visas But they include conditions barring onshore applications... don't they? Edited February 22, 2020 by apparition232 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Collett Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 22 hours ago, Alan Collett said: Ah - OK. Thanks. Best regards. 22 hours ago, palaceboy1 said: I am talking about the 103/804 visa queue date calculator that was updated today and shows a reduction of 3760 in the 804 queue for applicants up to October 2019 . There were 5680 in the queue date 18/10/2019 on21/11/2019 which reduced to 1920 in the queue today for 27/10/2019 queue date . Have a look at the visa calculator and see how many have disappeared in the last 3 months I have made enquiry of the PVC regarding the queue date calculator - if I get a meaningful reply I'll post a response here. Best regards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palaceboy1 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 14 hours ago, apparition232 said: Thank you. That worked. But they include conditions barring onshore applications... don't they? Some do and some don,t , I have not had a three month visa for a long time so I am unaware if or what restrictions are placed when it’s issued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apparition232 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 7 hours ago, palaceboy1 said: Some do and some don,t , I have not had a three month visa for a long time so I am unaware if or what restrictions are placed when it’s issued Ok. I think they usually do put in those conditions.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathss56 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 @AMP fabulous Angela. Have fun on your trip! I’m like you, hoping I can tie in my departure from Oz with my pre booked trip to the U.K. in May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alan Collett Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I have a reply following an enquiry into the accuracy of the queue date calculator: Thank you for your feedback concerning data provided by the Parent Queue calculator. We have identified the cause of the issue and the Department of Home Affairs is working to resolve the problem as quickly as possible. I have asked to be advised when the calculator is working correctly. Best regards. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Collett Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I am advised the queue date calculator issue has now been resolved. Maybe those above who are reviewing data (eg @palaceboy1) can review the position now? Best regards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palaceboy1 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 22/02/2020 at 01:30, Alan Collett said: Thanks Alan I will adjust my 804 figures . They didn’t take long to correct the mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arti Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 The calculator is only for 103 and 804 visas - as I understand this covers all non-contributory parent sub-classes there are. I randomly selected a date in mid June 2018 for both visas - total applications queued as of mid June 2018 = 38,920 as per the calculator. This is much less than the number in the migration report for 2017-2018 i.e. 50,642. Am I comparing the right numbers here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palaceboy1 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Arti said: The calculator is only for 103 and 804 visas - as I understand this covers all non-contributory parent sub-classes there are. I randomly selected a date in mid June 2018 for both visas - total applications queued as of mid June 2018 = 38,920 as per the calculator. This is much less than the number in the migration report for 2017-2018 i.e. 50,642. Am I comparing the right numbers here? If you enter a queue date of 10/01/2020 it shows 35090 in the queue for 103 visas . Strange isn,t it , I am wondering if it is applications in this queue and total number of people within the applications in the migration report . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh aron Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Hi just a quick question when visa 143 is granted it says no condition but I have been told by few people it has condition of living 2 years.Has anyone got any idea? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arti Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, sh aron said: Hi just a quick question when visa 143 is granted it says no condition but I have been told by few people it has condition of living 2 years.Has anyone got any idea? Thanks 143 is permanent residency, no caveats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arti Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, palaceboy1 said: If you enter a queue date of 10/01/2020 it shows 35090 in the queue for 103 visas . Strange isn,t it , I am wondering if it is applications in this queue and total number of people within the applications in the migration You're probably right - need to ask immigration the question I guess. And if the number of outcomes published = number of applications granted (and not the no of people within the applications) then the timelines shouldn't increase exponentially as thought previously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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