Jeremy Corbyn, thoughts?

[Skyba]

People in london are really extreme about getting to places on time. I couldn't believe the amount of people who would squeeze on a tube just to get there a few minutes early. Looked like one of those trains in India where they are all hanging on at the side!

 

 

I hate london dom regardless of whether there's a tube strike or not, people are just rude and it's a dirty horrible place. My flights back from Qatar used to land just at the perfect time for me to have to get the tube to Paddington from Heathrow with my case lol, nightmare.

 

Also if they are so keen on being early do what everyone else does in the country when there are road works on your journey.... Leave earlier lol

[srg73]

As mentioned previously Neil Kinnock....sorry I meant Jeremy Corbyn would at least bring stability to the country and give the crusties a single voice. He is going for the populist vote which annoys me as it draws in the people who only read headlines and not the comment behind them and those who feel politics is only positive....sometimes bad news has to be broken to the population despite what spin parties like new labour used to push out.

 

Be positive everybody, at least we can look across the Atlantic and openly laugh at the U.S. situation and their Republican selection....Trump you are comedy gold to match your skin colour and syrup.

 

S

[MARYROSE02]

Its always the little people who are stuffed by strikes anyway

The ones who lose their pay or their jobs if they can't get to work.

Rich bankers don't care. They can get a helicopter to work or start at home.

And if the strikes don't really hurt anybody why bother having the service.

And I don't travel around in chauffeur driven limos like Tony Bourke. I have 22 yo car with 330 000 km on clock.

Bottom line unions help only themselves and look at the likes of Craig Thomson here, spending union money on whores and Gillard protected one of her own.

[Skyba]

As mentioned previously Neil Kinnock....sorry I meant Jeremy Corbyn would at least bring stability to the country and give the crusties a single voice. He is going for the populist vote which annoys me as it draws in the people who only read headlines and not the comment behind them and those who feel politics is only positive....sometimes bad news has to be broken to the population despite what spin parties like new labour used to push out.

 

Be positive everybody, at least we can look across the Atlantic and openly laugh at the U.S. situation and their Republican selection....Trump you are comedy gold to match your skin colour and syrup.

 

S

 

 

 

Makes me laugh the way you right wing muppets talk as if you are superior to everyone else, how fecking dare you call people crusties as if they are below you. I probably have a much better claim to the right wing than you, I actually went to a private primary school and at that Young of an age asked to leave as it was full of idiots like the ones who think they are better than others because they have money. My parents didn't have much but had to put me there because of thatchers destruction of the English curriculum in the late 80's early 90's. Thing is I am not an privileged arsehole who thinks the world owes everyone with money a living so I can preach to everyone else about how great I am and how poor they are.

Edited August 8, 2015 by Skyba

[Harpodom]

 

@Skyba, I like the cut of your jib my friend....

[Skyba]

Its always the little people who are stuffed by strikes anyway

The ones who lose their pay or their jobs if they can't get to work.

Rich bankers don't care. They can get a helicopter to work or start at home.

And if the strikes don't really hurt anybody why bother having the service.

And I don't travel around in chauffeur driven limos like Tony Bourke. I have 22 yo car with 330 000 km on clock.

Bottom line unions help only themselves and look at the likes of Craig Thomson here, spending union money on whores and Gillard protected one of her own.

 

 

Yes there is curruption in all areas of life that doesn't make the principles wrong, just because a labour minister over claimed an expense doesn't mean that helping disabled people live is wrong, I know the right would like to think that but it doesn't.

 

And I do feel sorry for people effected by strikes and it's unfortunate but it's not the strikers fault it's the people who are trying to screw them over who are to blame. You do t blame the person with a broken nose for bleeding on the floor when someone has punched him in the face.

 

In all honesty they should do what the French did, keep the service running but let everyone travel for free

Edited August 8, 2015 by Skyba

[MARYROSE02]

Because South Korea doesn't force all of its citizens to do as they say at all costs and allowed individualism which creates ideas and drives countries forward. The freedom to be able to object to things which you are so against is what made this country what it is, without the left you'd be in the same boat as everyone else, you wouldn't be part of the upstairs crew.... The only difference between working class left and right is the left haven't forgotten where they came from. Your Tory party is doing its best to adopt the North Korean and Russian rules on freedom of speech so why not go the whole hog hey..

North Korea is the worst example of a country governed by socialist principles. They ALWAYS end up as dictatorships ALWAYS. South Korea is a capitalist country. I bet the unions don't strike the way they do in the UK.

[MARYROSE02]

Because South Korea doesn't force all of its citizens to do as they say at all costs and allowed individualism which creates ideas and drives countries forward. The freedom to be able to object to things which you are so against is what made this country what it is, without the left you'd be in the same boat as everyone else, you wouldn't be part of the upstairs crew.... The only difference between working class left and right is the left haven't forgotten where they came from. Your Tory party is doing its best to adopt the North Korean and Russian rules on freedom of speech so why not go the whole hog hey..

Have the Tories tried to muzzle the Press? Left wing is anti individual.

[Skyba]

Have the Tories tried to muzzle the Press? Left wing is anti individual.

 

 

 

Someone was arrested the other day for holding a sign in London saying I can be arrested for not asking if I am allowed to protest:

 

they em are also trying to put into place laws that will stop anyone vocalising anti government views in public so yes they are trying to stop freedom of speech.

 

the left anti individual??? Are you smoking crack??? There's a huge difference between left wing socialism and communism, I know you right wing nut jobs would like to paint a different picture but then that's excepted from the side who think of the most extreme propaganda and run with it until people believe it, you post articles from the daily fail constantly... Need I say any more

 

claiming that a North Korean dictatorship resembles any type of socialism is so far fetched, if you break it down the way that the country is run is far more the type of society the Tories would want than any other party, Yes their economic views may be a little different but way they achieve it would be Cameron's wet dream, everyone working as long as the government want with no opposition being paid a pittance and only the top in society get any privilege..

Edited August 8, 2015 by Skyba

[grahamffc]

Corbyn would put Labour into the wilderness for years, Tony Blair is their only leader to win an election in over 40 years and they want to distance themselves from his centre-left position. I will have respect for the party of they choose principle over increasing general election chances but it will be exactly that.

[Guest Maybe Muppets]

Who?

[MARYROSE02]

Makes me laugh the way you right wing muppets talk as if you are superior to everyone else, how fecking dare you call people crusties as if they are below you. I probably have a much better claim to the right wing than you, I actually went to a private primary school and at that Young of an age asked to leave as it was full of idiots like the ones who think they are better than others because they have money. My parents didn't have much but had to put me there because of thatchers destruction of the English curriculum in the late 80's early 90's. Thing is I am not an privileged arsehole who thinks the world owes everyone with money a living so I can preach to everyone else about how great I am and how poor they are.

 

I don't think the world owes anybody a living. I'm out of work, but I don't get the dole or any other Govt assistance. Why? Because I made the capitalist mistake of saving my money, and building some assets. I like living in a welfare state but I can't stand bludgers who make lifestyle choices not to work

 

I thought the likes of the London Underground was there to provide a public service mainly for poor people who can't afford to buy cars but I was wrong. It's there to provide cushy jobs for a lucky few who expect a job for life.

[bristolman]

I thought the likes of the London Underground was there to provide a public service mainly for poor people who can't afford to buy cars but I was wrong. It's there to provide cushy jobs for a lucky few who expect a job for life.

 

I don't think the Underground is there for people who cant afford cars, I've never heard that one before lol

[MARYROSE02]

I don't think the Underground is there for people who cant afford cars, I've never heard that one before lol

It's not there to give jobs for a privileged minority of the proletariat either.

[bristolman]

It's not there to give jobs for a privileged minority of the proletariat either.

 

I have just never heard it referred to as transport for people who can't afford cars before lol It seems to be used by people from every walk of life.

[MARYROSE02]

I have just never heard it referred to as transport for people who can't afford cars before lol It seems to be used by people from every walk of life.

Transport for the masses, jobs for the few, which is more important?

[MARYROSE02]

Xmas? Go on strike.

Summer holidays? Go.on strike.

[bristolman]

Xmas? Go on strike.

Summer holidays? Go.on strike.

 

I must admit strikes are pretty few and far between these days.

[BacktoDemocracy]

Someone was arrested the other day for holding a sign in London saying I can be arrested for not asking if I am allowed to protest:

 

they em are also trying to put into place laws that will stop anyone vocalising anti government views in public so yes they are trying to stop freedom of speech.

 

the left anti individual??? Are you smoking crack??? There's a huge difference between left wing socialism and communism, I know you right wing nut jobs would like to paint a different picture but then that's excepted from the side who think of the most extreme propaganda and run with it until people believe it, you post articles from the daily fail constantly... Need I say any more

 

claiming that a North Korean dictatorship resembles any type of socialism is so far fetched, if you break it down the way that the country is run is far more the type of society the Tories would want than any other party, Yes their economic views may be a little different but way they achieve it would be Cameron's wet dream, everyone working as long as the government want with no opposition being paid a pittance and only the top in society get any privilege..

 

I prefer The Daily Wail myself as a descriptor

[BacktoDemocracy]

The London Underground is supposed to be a public service. The drivers are incredibly well paid with generous leave. How dare they strike because they don't want to offer a 24 hour service.

 

Because that is the right of labour to withdraw its cooperation with management and that right was won by men paying the penalty of imprisonment and transportation and years of victimisation for their believe in the freedom of the working man not to simply be serfs.

[MARYROSE02]

Because that is the right of labour to withdraw its cooperation with management and that right was won by men paying the penalty of imprisonment and transportation and years of victimisation for their believe in the freedom of the working man not to simply be serfs.

So why don't the Armed Services ever go on strike. They are mostly working men and women.

[flag of convenience]

I don't think the world owes anybody a living. I'm out of work, but I don't get the dole or any other Govt assistance. Why? Because I made the capitalist mistake of saving my money, and building some assets. I like living in a welfare state but I can't stand bludgers who make lifestyle choices not to work

 

I thought the likes of the London Underground was there to provide a public service mainly for poor people who can't afford to buy cars but I was wrong. It's there to provide cushy jobs for a lucky few who expect a job for life.

 

Or rather the inheritance of property. Not forgetting the ability to purchase a flat in inner Sydney in more affordable times. The price rises of more modern times making it near impossible for anyone of your status to ever repeat such a procedure. Fine by be. You lucked out. But please don't blame those not so fortunate or use ridiculous terms as bludgers. You can dispose of UK property spend the winnings on travel and cruises and go on the welfare pay role.

 

No service workers have every right to decent conditions and thankfully they have a Union to stand up and defend their rights. Many these days would dearly like to be able to be in such a position as to have a voice to speak out and act against abusive employers.

Cushy jobs? No people have the right the expect a little more from employers than a revolving door and little knowledge if in work from one week to the next. Pretty much what our capitalist system is based on I'd have thought.

[flag of convenience]

So why don't the Armed Services ever go on strike. They are mostly working men and women.

 

Perhaps the signing away of individuality on joining the forces. A rather specific form of employment with unique conditions, wouldn't you agree? Surely you don't recommend such conditions are introduced into the wider community? A military/police state while appeasing some twisted logic, perhaps of the lunar right, hardly a recipe for life in a free democratic country. Even if some of those freedoms are being increasing abused and weakened there has to be a limit to acceptance.

[MARYROSE02]

Or rather the inheritance of property. Not forgetting the ability to purchase a flat in inner Sydney in more affordable times. The price rises of more modern times making it near impossible for anyone of your status to ever repeat such a procedure. Fine by be. You lucked out. But please don't blame those not so fortunate or use ridiculous terms as bludgers. You can dispose of UK property spend the winnings on travel and cruises and go on the welfare pay role.

 

No service workers have every right to decent conditions and thankfully they have a Union to stand up and defend their rights. Many these days would dearly like to be able to be in such a position as to have a voice to speak out and act against abusive employers.

Cushy jobs? No people have the right the expect a little more from employers than a revolving door and little knowledge if in work from one week to the next. Pretty much what our capitalist system is based on I'd have thought.

What is wrong with inheriting property from two hard working members of the proletariat who faithfully served their country in war and peace? They never bludged. They hardly drank or smoked or gambled or blew their money in any other way. In your world their assets should rightfully have passed back to the government to buy council houses for asylum seekers. And öf course at the end if their lives the Govt did expect them to pay for their nursing home care out of their assets. What could be fairer than that?

 

And what of me? The Tory voting millionaire who spent his working life in lowly clerical work or sorting letters in the Post Office. I could be on a disability pension. I could have been on one for the last thirty years had I known how to work the system. Find a doctor and psychologist to confirm that my anxiety and depression makes it to difficult for me to work. Why not? I have the ling term medication and medical history to prove it. Once you have that pension, and your houso flat and access to every other service either free or subsidised by other fools who chose to work and pay mortgages on homes two hour commutes from their work place.

 

When I bought my flat it was not easy to pay off a mortgage not at rates of nearly 18 per cent, and Surry Hills was not the trendy yuppie place it is now. I just wanted a place close to work. I would have bought in Penrith if my job was there.

 

Working class people are not class traitors because they vote Tory. They are people who want to work hard, try to buy a home and maybe a few other assets for their retirement. And they don't see why they should pay for others to bludge.

[JockinTas]

I have always voted Labour but over the past few years it really pained me to do so as I really disliked the people I was voting for. I won't be voting Labour again but I won't be voting for the Liberals either.

 

I have always worked hard as did/do all my family and didn't expect help from anybody. I do agree that unions had their place in the past but there are some jobs nowadays that are well paid but the workers want more money and if they don't get it they go on strike. I haven't much time for that. Unions are necessary in the more dangerous jobs eg mining, construction work etc but the CFMEU is apt to be corrupt especially in Melbourne and Sydney. My husband could write a book about that. He was a union rep but was disgusted by some of the stuff that went on.