Parley Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Just because you like the beach, this is totally irrelevant to the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Just because you like the beach, this is totally irrelevant to the OP. How do you feel being 30-40k out into the burbs in Melbourne compares to Brisbane? Genuinely interested if there is more life way out in Melbourne, only ever been to expensive inner areas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 World's most liveable city in the world mate. You don't get that every year for nothing. It would appear while not for nothing not for a lot. Anyway few take such a result seriously apart from those that reside there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Just because you like the beach, this is totally irrelevant to the OP. Why's that? Doesn't she like it? Not seen her say that anywhere. S'pose she might not be too bothered though or she wouldn't be thinking about moving to Melbourne. Edited February 3, 2015 by Paul1Perth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 How do you feel being 30-40k out into the burbs in Melbourne compares to Brisbane? Genuinely interested if there is more life way out in Melbourne, only ever been to expensive inner areas I'm less than 20kms from the city cbd. I could get to beach in probably 30 to 40 minutes, but I have my own inground pool so haven't been to the beach for years. I'm not saying the beach isn't nice occasionally but most people don't go to the beach every day. It is a rare day out if they ever go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I'm less than 20kms from the city cbd. I could get to beach in probably 30 to 40 minutes, but I have my own inground pool so haven't been to the beach for years. I'm not saying the beach isn't nice occasionally but most people don't go to the beach every day. It is a rare day out if they ever go. I get that, but the OP lives 30k or so out of Brisbane, so would moving to Melbourne make much of a difference in lifestyle? I get that maybe it has more going on daily if you live closer to the action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyjamie Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 and all these points are very valid, which we welcome in helping us decide if its worth the move or not. We dont mind the beach, the beaches on the peninsula here (redcliffe, scarborough etc) are ok, not great not what i would consider a beach where id go for the day and go swimming. If we really want to spend the day at the beach we would pack the car and head up the coast, so a good 45 min - hour drive away which for us isnt ideal. but also we are a good 40 min drive or so out of the city which in the grand scheme of things isnt that far, but i think due to where weve picked we feel a bit in no mans land. were not close to the beach nor the city. its very boring in north lakes and surrounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Kelly I have sent you a PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 As a Brisbane resident I would be slightly offended if people based their opinions off this city on North Lakes. It didn't even exist 10 years ago. Everytime I have driven by the place I always remark at not only how far out it is but how dull it looks. Unless shopping at Costco is the height of excitement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I have friends in Brisbane and they are moving back to Melbourne after 17 years there and my friend cannot wait she has wanted to move back every day since she went, just her oh likes the weather. Anyway for young people and I have adult children here in Melbourne they say she would not live anywhere else. There is something for everyone. My daughter lives in Brunswick and that is far enough out for her, can walk to everything get the tram, yes its expensive to rent and buy but as she says its the lifestyle they love it. I live on the Peninsula in Melbourne and know there are lots of Brits about, young and with babes and young ones and they have a great life here too. Close enough to go the city for gigs, sporting stuff like that plenty of clubs to join and places to meet people. Lots of meet ups going on. Join up with the Life in Victoria forum and you will come into contact with a lot who live here. A lot living in the west now as its closer to the CBD and there are a lots of lovely places to live in Melbourne with life. They do not close at 9 pm either. My lot never headed out till about 9 or 10 o'clock of night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Living in Brunswick would be a Million times better than North Lakes for younger folk. But alternatively living in Paddington in Brisbane would be a million times better than Craigieburn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzy--bee Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Hey guys, Been here in Brisbane now for 2 years and we have itchy feet to move down to Meloburne. Dont get me wrong we love Brisbane but we just feel somethings missing for us here. We do like the laidback lifestyle but at times we find Brisbane very very boring. I absolutely detest the weather at this time of year its awful. Im so over the lack of social life here aswell, i envisaged more than always socialising in the boring taverns that clear your plate by 9pm or revolving round a snag on a bbq in a back garden!! We have also found it extremely difficult to make friends. We have a few close friends here, whom without i would left and returned to the uk by now if im honest. And we are very out going, we will chat to anyone but we just cant find friends here. I dont know if its because were further out the city i find it so boring, we live close to north lakes. Hubby works with Mazda who are based in Melbourne, but theres also a lot of work for him in Melbourne outwith Mazda. We also have friends in Melbourne weve known for years. We dont know what to do for the best????:confused: I love living in Melbourne and would recommend it to anyone. The weather here certainly sounds as if it might suit you better, I can't stand humidity myself so I love Melbourne's spring, summer and autumn and I enjoy winter too as its cool, sunny, you can go skiing/toboganning for a day trip and its a nice change. But with regard to socialising I'm not sure you will find it very different here. We have several social circles of friends. Some are through forums such as these, some through volunteering, some through hobbies, some through school, some neighbours. (incidentally, none are through work because we don't mix work and pleasure by choice). But all these ways to make friends are there wherever you live. Social life here also revolves round back garden barbecues, personally I like that, much cheaper and more relaxed than buying rounds in a pub or going out to a restaurant. I would also echo a previous comment that you maybe shouldn't make life-changing decisions 2 weeks after having a baby as your emotions may not be very stable. You mention that you think you may find Brisbane boring because you live in North Lakes? Maybe check whether living in a more established area would be affordable for you, either in Brisbane or Melbourne. There are plenty of places in Melbourne which would be just the same as living in North Lakes, some like that, some don't. Personally I love living in an established area where there are a lot of older people, a lot of young families who have lived in the area for ages and there is a great community. hope those ramblings help a bit BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 and all these points are very valid, which we welcome in helping us decide if its worth the move or not. We dont mind the beach, the beaches on the peninsula here (redcliffe, scarborough etc) are ok, not great not what i would consider a beach where id go for the day and go swimming. If we really want to spend the day at the beach we would pack the car and head up the coast, so a good 45 min - hour drive away which for us isnt ideal. but also we are a good 40 min drive or so out of the city which in the grand scheme of things isnt that far, but i think due to where weve picked we feel a bit in no mans land. were not close to the beach nor the city. its very boring in north lakes and surrounds. In the "Grand scheme of things" you are too far from the City for a quick pop in and see what's going off and you are too far from a decent beach and entertainment area for a quick pop there too. There are places that you think will be fine when you look at things from the UK. I know we used to look at maps of Perth before we emigrated and think it wouldn't matter if we lived in Armadale or somewhere as nowhere is that far away from the beaches or the City. Luckily when we rented in Como (which is a fine area if you like the river) we realised that what we wanted was what we had dreamed about when we emigrated. We wanted to feel like we were on holiday at weekends and the only way to do it was to be in walking distance of a really nice beach. An added bonus is Hillary's just down the road with pubs, restaurants, night life, coffee shops and more restaurants up and down West Coast Highway, places we can walk to, parks that are busy with free barbies. When we have visitors we don't have to worry about taking them places. They can walk down the beach (most actually come for that and aren't bothered about the touristy things after the first visit), they can get a bus and train into Perth or Joondalup. We don't feel guilty about getting on with our lives and letting them enjoy the place. I couldn't imagine having visitors and being in say Ellenbrook and leaving them the option of sitting by the pool all day. Don't know what you could walk to from there? Location is everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyjamie Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 In the "Grand scheme of things" you are too far from the City for a quick pop in and see what's going off and you are too far from a decent beach and entertainment area for a quick pop there too. There are places that you think will be fine when you look at things from the UK. I know we used to look at maps of Perth before we emigrated and think it wouldn't matter if we lived in Armadale or somewhere as nowhere is that far away from the beaches or the City. Luckily when we rented in Como (which is a fine area if you like the river) we realised that what we wanted was what we had dreamed about when we emigrated. We wanted to feel like we were on holiday at weekends and the only way to do it was to be in walking distance of a really nice beach. An added bonus is Hillary's just down the road with pubs, restaurants, night life, coffee shops and more restaurants up and down West Coast Highway, places we can walk to, parks that are busy with free barbies. When we have visitors we don't have to worry about taking them places. They can walk down the beach (most actually come for that and aren't bothered about the touristy things after the first visit), they can get a bus and train into Perth or Joondalup. We don't feel guilty about getting on with our lives and letting them enjoy the place. I couldn't imagine having visitors and being in say Ellenbrook and leaving them the option of sitting by the pool all day. Don't know what you could walk to from there? Location is everything. yep i agree, location is quite possibly our issue. i think we need to look at a diff suburb/area in brissy aswell as melbourne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndoe Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) I've been in bracken Ridge for 19 yrs and have seen North lakes evolve from a mosquito infested wetland. Some love it there and if it suits them, good on 'em but I would move interstate rather than live there. That said, It's only recently that i realised just how much there is to see and do if you're based northside and being in N Lakes should never be an excuse for having "little to do" I'm on the highway in 2 minutes as are those who live at N Lakes and I wouldn't consider a two hour drive for a day out too much to ask and there is plenty to see and do within that radius, indeed, within a 45 minute radius that doesn't need to include the beach. If the beach and al fresco is your thing, then mooloolaba is wonderful IMHO.........it's not got the "brashness" of the Gold coast and I never tire of it. The hinterland is so varied and wonderful and there is too much to relate here but I would recommend two books "bushwalking in SE Qld" and "Wild Places of Greater Brisbane" I would advise anyone to read these, in particular, the latter, before considering moving too far afield, based on their "boredom" Edit to add: I lived in Blackpool but it would take me 30 minutes to get to the beach. I also lived in Millendreath cornwall, on a cliff top overlooking the sea............again, near 30 minutes to walk down the coastal path to the sea. I don't understand why so many folk think that when they move to Oz the beach would be on their doorstep along with all the nightlife. Location, location, location.................you have to look at this before you even move to Oz..........there are so many members who have expressed their disappointment at the lack of friends and social life once they have been here a while. You can't move to a suburb and expect to have on tap the facilities that Surfer's Paradise offers (surf beach, night life, proximity to hinterland), just as you can't move to a sleepy village or outer suburb of city in the UK and expect same Edited February 4, 2015 by Johndoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I've been in bracken Ridge for 19 yrs and have seen North lakes evolve from a mosquito infested wetland. Some love it there and if it suits them, good on 'em but I would move interstate rather than live there. That said, It's only recently that i realised just how much there is to see and do if you're based northside and being in N Lakes should never be an excuse for having "little to do" I'm on the highway in 2 minutes as are those who live at N Lakes and I wouldn't consider a two hour drive for a day out too much to ask and there is plenty to see and do within that radius, indeed, within a 45 minute radius that doesn't need to include the beach. If the beach and al fresco is your thing, then mooloolaba is wonderful IMHO.........it's not got the "brashness" of the Gold coast and I never tire of it. The hinterland is so varied and wonderful and there is too much to relate here but I would recommend two books "bushwalking in SE Qld" and "Wild Places of Greater Brisbane" I would advise anyone to read these, in particular, the latter, before considering moving too far afield, based on their "boredom" Edit to add: I lived in Blackpool but it would take me 30 minutes to get to the beach. I also lived in Millendreath cornwall, on a cliff top overlooking the sea............again, near 30 minutes to walk down the coastal path to the sea. I don't understand why so many folk think that when they move to Oz the beach would be on their doorstep along with all the nightlife. Location, location, location.................you have to look at this before you even move to Oz..........there are so many members who have expressed their disappointment at the lack of friends and social life once they have been here a while. You can't move to a suburb and expect to have on tap the facilities that Surfer's Paradise offers (surf beach, night life, proximity to hinterland), just as you can't move to a sleepy village or outer suburb of city in the UK and expect same A two hour drive with a young kid could be a bit daunting JD. In fact everything changes so much when you have young kids, there are no training courses and if there were I reckon there would be less kids. When you took the trouble to take the 30 minutes to get to the beach in Blackpool did you wonder why you'd bothered?:wink: I think the beach front and sea in Mooloolaba is slightly better and a bit warmer than either Blackpool or Millendreath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambethlad Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Property in the inner suburbs of Melbourne is very expensive to rent or buy. Brits seem to like the Mornington Peninsula south of Melbourne. Places like Mornington, Mt Eliza and Mt Martha are full of Poms. One Brit family I know have bought a house on 10 acres an hour and half south east of Melbourne for a lot less than they would have paid for a shoe-box in the suburbs. It depends on the life-style you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 KJ- it is a good idea to check out Melbourne in July when you say you are coming down here because that is Melbourne at its worst from a weather point of view. If you like it then, you're going to love it the rest of the year- wonderful Springs, wonderful Autumns etc. Only thing I would say is to avoid some of the outer outer newer areas because they will be the same as the one you are leaving, basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Property in the inner suburbs of Melbourne is very expensive to rent or buy. Brits seem to like the Mornington Peninsula south of Melbourne. Places like Mornington, Mt Eliza and Mt Martha are full of Poms. One Brit family I know have bought a house on 10 acres an hour and half south east of Melbourne for a lot less than they would have paid for a shoe-box in the suburbs. It depends on the life-style you want. Sounds great as long as you don't have to travel to Melbourne for work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I second @que sera sera on making any life changing decisions until at least 12 months after having a baby and if it's your first I'd say make it 2 years. Since I would describe Perth exactly as you describe Brisbane I wonder whether the upheaval of relocating would really pay dividends. I have never lived in Melbourne, only visited so I don't know and we did briefly consider a move to Melbourne rather than Scotland but I hate suburbia and we would have had to live even further out of Melbourne - a friend did try and sell the virtues to me, said he lived 30 mins from the city and then admitted his house was worth $900k (& he has since demolished and built a new one because it wasn't worth renovating!). In the end we came to the conclusion those that don't like the Australian lifestyle pretty much say the same things wherever in Australia they are so whilst there may have been marginal benefits for us in moving to Melbourne, the lifestyle still wouldn't have been for us. Bear in mind when reading all the positives about Melbourne that people will post that you've provoked people to defend Brisbane - you detest the weather others love it, you can't stand 'yet another BBQ' (& oh how I know that feeling) but for others that's 'living the dream' - neither is wrong, it's horses for courses but listening to others views on Melbourne doesn't really help knowing if it's the course for you. Could your OH have a secondment to Melbourne? A 12 month 'try before you buy' It's the only way you are really going to know if it's for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) Just to mention I have only "defended Brisbane" because the suburb is 40 mins out of town. The same way the pop up suburbs don't reflect the bigger cities. If you can't stand the weather obviously it isn't worth trying a new suburb. Edited February 5, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyay1 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 mebourne is fine to live in and more probably going on in terms of diversity of social activities if you want them. That said, I have no social life as such, haven't made any friends at all (not one) since we arrived nor socialised with anyone other than my partner, or with colleagues at a company organised social function, since we arrived here over 2 years ago . I guess it's what you make of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish.01 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) I second @que sera sera on making any life changing decisions until at least 12 months after having a baby and if it's your first I'd say make it 2 years. Since I would describe Perth exactly as you describe Brisbane I wonder whether the upheaval of relocating would really pay dividends. I have never lived in Melbourne, only visited so I don't know and we did briefly consider a move to Melbourne rather than Scotland but I hate suburbia and we would have had to live even further out of Melbourne - a friend did try and sell the virtues to me, said he lived 30 mins from the city and then admitted his house was worth $900k (& he has since demolished and built a new one because it wasn't worth renovating!). In the end we came to the conclusion those that don't like the Australian lifestyle pretty much say the same things wherever in Australia they are so whilst there may have been marginal benefits for us in moving to Melbourne, the lifestyle still wouldn't have been for us. Bear in mind when reading all the positives about Melbourne that people will post that you've provoked people to defend Brisbane - you detest the weather others love it, you can't stand 'yet another BBQ' (& oh how I know that feeling) but for others that's 'living the dream' - neither is wrong, it's horses for courses but listening to others views on Melbourne doesn't really help knowing if it's the course for you. Could your OH have a secondment to Melbourne? A 12 month 'try before you buy' It's the only way you are really going to know if it's for you. Like in the UK, I think it is often far more to do with where you live in a city and/or what you personally do, than the city itself. I live an australian lifestyle and I don't go to beaches, don't do bbq's, have access to late night cafes, don't worship hot weather etc etc and would also not like living in places like north lakes but am happy closer to brisbane. I would compromise on house size well before location. I think there is more variety in lifestyles than people realise when they live in the outer suburbs. They are like living in a different place...I know I've lived it and didn't like it. People sometimes go goggle eyes at the huge houses and forget about all the other facets of life...of course it suites some to a tee...just talking about those who want a more full urban experience. Like you say the bigger cities like Syd/Mel/Lon can be very expensive to live close to which is one advantage the smaller cities have...you can live in the thick of things at a more affordable price though the bigger cities have more spread of urban life. Edited February 5, 2015 by fish.01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndoe Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 A two hour drive with a young kid could be a bit daunting JD. In fact everything changes so much when you have young kids, there are no training courses and if there were I reckon there would be less kids.When you took the trouble to take the 30 minutes to get to the beach in Blackpool did you wonder why you'd bothered?:wink: I think the beach front and sea in Mooloolaba is slightly better and a bit warmer than either Blackpool or Millendreath. I actually loved the beach at Blackpool................ever since I was about 4yr old my world revolved around it. As a nipper I'd walk from one end of it to the other collecting pop bottles from the beach and bins and getting the deposits back on 'em. Even used to nick empty deckchairs whilst some poor bufgger was swimming and take them back for the deposit. Later on I actually made a pretty decent living from the beach...............first up I had a job running donkeys, then I got myself a spade and riddle and used to riddle the sand where the holidaymakers lost all sorts of things..............watches, rings, and money. I used to dig bait professionaly.............the famous "Blackpool Bootlace" lug worm. In winter I would set as many as 3 night/setlines with as many as 100 hooks on each..............digging the bait in winter was hard yakka but we could pull some big cod back then and I used to have an old coach pram that I loaded 'em into and would sell fillets in my local...............sometimes when the whiting were in there'd be one on every hook that the odd dab and cod hadn't got to first. When it was too cold for digging the worms, I'd trip up to Lytham and paddle for cockles and it would take less than an hour to fill the pram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I'm less than 20kms from the city cbd. I could get to beach in probably 30 to 40 minutes, but I have my own inground pool so haven't been to the beach for years. I'm not saying the beach isn't nice occasionally but most people don't go to the beach every day. It is a rare day out if they ever go. That's what I'm saying about being 30 to 40 minutes away, It's too far to bother and like you say, it's a rare day out. Having an inground pool just wouldn't do it for me, unless I could have a 50m laned pool, those splash things in the back yard are just play things for a cool down and a laze around in. Most people we know and hang around with go to the beach every day for some sort of exercise mostly, but some just go for a stroll after work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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