Guest Guest 47403 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 The pubs are awesome in the UK ! and who doesnt have warm house in winter in the UK ? as for rasism...its horrendous here ! why dont you ever see black faces reading the news or presenting current affairs etc or black doctors - where are they all ? its so racist it almost funny. No black doctors now your having a laugh! Plenty of older folk sit through winter in the cold, some not so old too don't be so naive. There are awesome pubs the world over they are not unique to the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janlo Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 No black doctors now your having a laugh! Plenty of older folk sit through winter in the cold, some not so old too don't be so naive. There are awesome pubs the world over they are not unique to the UK. Australian.... 1st owners of the land ? No there isnt ! ..and no its not funny. If you are sitting in the UK unable to heat your house then we are not referring to folk who can afford to come to Australia....this is poms in oz site.....of course there are loads of poor people who cant afford to eat/heat the home/go on holiday etc but the average pom can heat their home. (well they could when I left 3 years ago - perhaps it changed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Nothing is free in the UK but if you need a safety net it is there, the NHS is the best in the world as voted by an independent american survey but the tories are trying to make it like the USA and Australia, already huge protests going on...they will never privatize it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest 47403 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Australian.... 1st owners of the land ? No there isnt ! ..and no its not funny. If you are sitting in the UK unable to heat your house then we are not referring to folk who can afford to come to Australia....this is poms in oz site.....of course there are loads of poor people who cant afford to eat/heat the home/go on holiday etc but the average pom can heat their home. (well they could when I left 3 years ago - perhaps it changed) Pretty nonsensical reply tbh as much as I hate the grammar police you need to edit it to resemble something from the English language and I might be able to reply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest 47403 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Nothing is free in the UK but if you need a safety net it is there, the NHS is the best in the world as voted by an independent american survey but the tories are trying to make it like the USA and Australia, already huge protests going on...they will never privatize it. The Australian and US medical systems are completely different..............wake up parts of the NHS are already privatised it's not going to be an immediate change but the NHS won't exist as it does now in 50 years time, sooner if the right wing stay in power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 The Australian and US medical systems are completely different..............wake up parts of the NHS are already privatised it's not going to be an immediate change but the NHS won't exist as it does now in 50 years time, sooner if the right wing stay in power. The world isn't going to be the same in 50 years time - the prediction is 65% unemployment. Either we'll stop thinking of things like healthcare and education in financial terms and simply give people what they need or it will be survival of the fittest and poverty and infant mortality etc. will be back at 19th century levels. This will be the same across the globe - I wouldn't like to call whether the UK or Australia will be worse, all I know is I'm happy my son has dual nationality and he will have some choices whatever happens in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbye grey sky Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 When I started work in the 70s it was expected that everyone would be just working a couple of days per week before the end of the 20th century because of increased automation and computers. More people working than ever and longer and longer hours. Who knew? I do feel a bit conned. :no: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Nothing is free in the UK but if you need a safety net it is there, the NHS is the best in the world as voted by an independent american survey but the tories are trying to make it like the USA and Australia, already huge protests going on...they will never privatize it. Can you not get free healthcare in Aus anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I am really shocked at the attitudes being expressed here, of course services aren't free and are paid for by taxes but they are free at the point of use and that is the whole point, the better off help out the not so well off. It's not about 'freeloading' in fact those most in need probably graft harder than those of us fortunate enough to have had the opportunity and made the choice of a well paid career. Do you really think a Dr works harder than a nurse and a nurse is a freeloader because he gets family tax credit? The vast majority of those on benefits are working full time and in my experience the lowest paid jobs I've had are the ones where I worked hardest - I may not have been using my brain that much but for sheer effort working behind a bar far exceeds what I do now. Arguably wages should be higher so people are not reliant on benefits but I certainly have no problem in the taxes I pay being redistributed to those on lower incomes. And what on earth is the problem with everyone paying proportional to their income into a health fund that means regardless of income the service is free? I despair I really do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I am really shocked at the attitudes being expressed here, of course services aren't free and are paid for by taxes but they are free at the point of use and that is the whole point, the better off help out the not so well off. It's not about 'freeloading' in fact those most in need probably graft harder than those of us fortunate enough to have had the opportunity and made the choice of a well paid career. Do you really think a Dr works harder than a nurse and a nurse is a freeloader because he gets family tax credit? The vast majority of those on benefits are working full time and in my experience the lowest paid jobs I've had are the ones where I worked hardest - I may not have been using my brain that much but for sheer effort working behind a bar far exceeds what I do now. Arguably wages should be higher so people are not reliant on benefits but I certainly have no problem in the taxes I pay being redistributed to those on lower incomes. And what on earth is the problem with everyone paying proportional to their income into a health fund that means regardless of income the service is free? I despair I really do Post of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Can you not get free healthcare in Aus anymore? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 No That's no good then, is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1cha3la Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 If the system was genuinely there to help the people who need it then I would have no problem with it, but it is exploited left right and centre and used by freeloaders in a way that is was never intended for. But the goverment just let it happen. Too many times have I seen people close to me let down by the system. People who have worked hard all their lives and paid in only to be told go away when they needed some help or pay to get services quicker. Yet I see others play the system to a tune and are better off than those who work hard for a living and on no level is that right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101redroses Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It's called insurance!!! I have insurance and top cover... but this does not cover much. I also recently had breast cancer and my gap bills were $10K. Hopefully you will have good health and not need to find out that you are still faced with huge bills. I wish it was only the excess of your insurance but the reality is the Dr can charge what they like and you are only reimbursed with the scheduled fee. I certainly am not complaining about the treatment but when you face tough times it is a double whammy when the medical bills kick in and you think it will be covered by insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) I have insurance and top cover... but this does not cover much. I also recently had breast cancer and my gap bills were $10K. Hopefully you will have good health and not need to find out that you are still faced with huge bills. I wish it was only the excess of your insurance but the reality is the Dr can charge what they like and you are only reimbursed with the scheduled fee. I certainly am not complaining about the treatment but when you face tough times it is a double whammy when the medical bills kick in and you think it will be covered by insurance. I'm so sorry to hear you've been through this. I have two very good friends here who have both had breast cancer and have had mastectomys such a stressing time. Both thankfully now in remission and both covered by Breastcare WA completely 100 percent free.Ive done the City to Surf twice to raise funds for them such a fantastic job they do. Free wigs etc. too. Edited November 26, 2014 by Que Sera, Sera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calNgary Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 This thread has been tided up again, take any bickering to your PM and keep it off the forum please. Cal x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstone1975 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I know!! Just not on such a vast scale. Makes my blood boil when I read threads asking whether or not the poster will be entitled to benefits. Surely, if you have to ask that, then you shouldn't consider emigrating. I might become one of the masses myself. Give myself a break from work :wink: Seriously benefits abuse is just as bad over here as the uk. You just don't see sensationalised as much in the media here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartmart07 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Originally Posted by Que Sera, Sera Free? Are you not paying NI contributions? Sounds like you've got all the benefits you need. Pretty much the norm for new immigrants to Britain then :wink: Seriously though good luck with your settling in :wubclub: Yes I am paying NI but only £30 a week as opposed to the £300 a week I was paying in Australia. Plus because I have been out of the country and haven't earned 10k yet, I dont pay any tax. Sounds like you just want a free ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Can't remember who said there were no Aboriginal Doctors in Australia , but found this to help enlighten them. http://www.aida.org.au. It's 204 by the way with 310 students on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Australian.... 1st owners of the land ? No there isnt ! ..and no its not funny. If you are sitting in the UK unable to heat your house then we are not referring to folk who can afford to come to Australia....this is poms in oz site.....of course there are loads of poor people who cant afford to eat/heat the home/go on holiday etc but the average pom can heat their home. (well they could when I left 3 years ago - perhaps it changed) Yes tbere is http://www.aida.org.au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Seriously benefits abuse is just as bad over here as the uk.You just don't see sensationalised as much in the media here. It certainly is with company tax rorts on par with UK. And no the tabloid press is less numerous and as such have less influence on people's lives. Shock jokes go part of the way influencing the masses in a similar way though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1977 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Don't forget negative gearing, who's brave enough to stop legal fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janlo Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Can't remember who said there were no Aboriginal Doctors in Australia , but found this to help enlighten them. http://www.aida.org.au. It's 204 by the way with 310 students on the way. I don't mean mixed race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I don't mean mixed race. That's your call is it? Everyone of those 204 are mixed race. How do you know that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janlo Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) This thread has been tided up again, take any bickering to your PM and keep it off the forum please. Cal x You have not tidied up enough ...insulting peoples grammar shouldnt be tolerated. Edited November 27, 2014 by janlo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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