ramot Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I wish! I get stopped frisked and even drug swabbed every fricking time from when I was 13! Clearly I look " the type" I am also frisked almost every flight, they even pick on me at Maroochydore. I obviously fit a profile!! Little old grey haired granny! Not funny when I used to fly as a passenger a minimum of 6 long haul flights a year, at least it's only an average of 2 long haul these days + the odd domestic flight. I do have a theory, but best not post it on an open forum. the worst was flying from Heathrow a couple of years ago. I had had a bad fall, broken my shoulder and arm in 3 places. first I was body frisked, then had the wand passed round me, and both times the security female did her best to make me raise my arm, and pushed the wand under my shoulder, it was impossible for me to raise my arm, I was ina lot of pain.Then the next security man decided I needed a whole body scan, and again they tried to insist I raised my arms. It was just cruel/sadistic. I am a very experienced traveler, but I was seriously distressed by my treatment, but you know if you refuse they can refuse to let you fly. we were traveling back to Oz via Dubai, and I can assure you there were plenty of other passengers who might have fitted a suspicious profile more than me!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I wish! I get stopped frisked and even drug swabbed every fricking time from when I was 13! Clearly I look " the type" Me to, I think I look more guilty trying to avoid the drug swabs, as I purposely hold back until they pick someone else then I rush through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelinoz Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Its a difference I have noticed in both Australia and New Zealand, and its a good one, everywhere I go everyone's passport is checked regardless of nationality. The difference is in my experience, the UK will check it when you leave but inbound especially if you are arriving from a European country, they dont. Yes the UK is part of Europe but I just find that wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I don't find any checks wrong. I know I can't work out why I'm always picked out but I genuinly don't care if its making our traveling safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abz123 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 As a frequent visitor (monthly) to KL in a previous job I can assure you that all passports are checked on arrival (you can queue for over an hour if several flights land close together) and they also do index finger scanning so speculation on Malaysian security as a cause of this tragedy is unfair until FACTS are known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacaranda Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Jeez I wish I could enter the UK without getting my passport checked!We're always in a long queue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I am also frisked almost every flight, they even pick on me at Maroochydore. I obviously fit a profile!! Little old grey haired granny!Not funny when I used to fly as a passenger a minimum of 6 long haul flights a year, at least it's only an average of 2 long haul these days + the odd domestic flight. I do have a theory, but best not post it on an open forum. the worst was flying from Heathrow a couple of years ago. I had had a bad fall, broken my shoulder and arm in 3 places. first I was body frisked, then had the wand passed round me, and both times the security female did her best to make me raise my arm, and pushed the wand under my shoulder, it was impossible for me to raise my arm, I was ina lot of pain.Then the next security man decided I needed a whole body scan, and again they tried to insist I raised my arms. It was just cruel/sadistic. I am a very experienced traveler, but I was seriously distressed by my treatment, but you know if you refuse they can refuse to let you fly. we were traveling back to Oz via Dubai, and I can assure you there were plenty of other passengers who might have fitted a suspicious profile more than me!!!! Hey, et, they pick on me in the grey haired old granny profile too - I can, of course, kill someone 7 ways with my knitting needles but they don't seem to bother with them! I am always swabbed for explosives at Canberra (they did confiscate a small pair of needlework scissors I had inadvertently overlooked one time!) and I had the full body x-Ray at Heathrow once (was standing in the wrong place I guess). The PC nature of it all so that they waste time on little old ladies like me when they could be targeting limited resources to more likely profilees does irritate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Maybe they've came across a sneaky old granny in the past lol. There's been times before when we've been waved through aswell. I've been frisked before and the beeper thing has went off a lot. Dave got dusted in Florida aswell, i used to joke that it was because he looked dodgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The tickets used by the 2 passengers with stolen passports were bought together. So they were together.Whether they were terrorists we don't know yet but looking that way to me. But they also had booked onward flights...from Beijing to two separate European destinations. No point in doing that if you were expecting to blow up your plane over the South China Sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Pity more didn't Sorry, Sir Les. :notworthy: We're just normal human beings....gossip and speculation is part of our DNA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addy Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Sorry, Sir Les. :notworthy: We're just normal human beings....gossip and speculation is part of our DNA. It's normal human behaviour to postulate solutions to problems. That's what leads to inventions and progress. I'm not sure you can or should stop people trying to solve problems. Everyone here has kept within the bounds of decency and I am sure everyone is thinking about those passengers and their families. That's why we all need answers as it seems so senseless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambethlad Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) But no one has claimed responsibility...and there's no point in committing an act of terrorism unless you draw attention to your grievances. The propaganda aspect is the most important to terrorists. They know that the Chinese know who they are. No one claimed responsibility for the attack in Tiananmen Square last October that killed five people and injured scores more or the the stabbing massacre last week. Edited March 10, 2014 by Lambethlad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abz123 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Possible debris has been found. Damn, there goes my expert opinion that it was an alien abduction of the plane... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 They know that the Chinese know who they are. No one claimed responsibility for the attack in Tiananmen Square last October that killed five people and injured scores more or the the stabbing massacre last week. They were on Chinese territory and the identity of the groups involved were known, so there can be no doubt. But if the main airline of another country is the target then nothing is certain. Brand Malaysia suffers more than Brand China out of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Possible debris has been found. Damn, there goes my expert opinion that it was an alien abduction of the plane... Might have been a botched abduction....:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelinoz Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 But no one has claimed responsibility...and there's no point in committing an act of terrorism unless you draw attention to your grievances. The propaganda aspect is the most important to terrorists. They know that the Chinese know who they are. No one claimed responsibility for the attack in Tiananmen Square last October that killed five people and injured scores more or the the stabbing massacre last week. The Chinese know what and confirmed by what source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 But they also had booked onward flights...from Beijing to two separate European destinations. No point in doing that if you were expecting to blow up your plane over the South China Sea. China doesn't allow people a visa to enter China unless they hold an onward flight out of China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossmoyne Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I think you will find that if a passport is reported as lost or stolen its number will be recorded in a database of stolen passports. And it should be flagged if the passport is ever presented. Im sure this would happen in the U.S. but maybe in Malaysia their systems may not be as sophisticated. Also Im sure if you report your passport lost or stolen and apply for a new one you will get one with a new number. And as i said if the old one is presented at airports it should set off alarms or red flags. I thought Interpol had an international data base that listed all stolen and lost passports, I could be wrong but I remember something about this coming up during the 9/11 tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 The Chinese know what and confirmed by what source? They know that the Chinese know who they are. Dunno...I've been mistakenly quoted. it wasn't me who wrote that. T'was Lambethlad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) I thought Interpol had an international data base that listed all stolen and lost passports, I could be wrong but I remember something about this coming up during the 9/11 tragedy. Yes, they do...but apparently it is frequently not used. The Air India jet which crashed in 2010 was carrying 10 passengers with stolen passports. So even that number wasn't enough to galvanise checking authorities. (That was a runway overshoot...no malevolence on the part of the dodgy passengers). Edited March 10, 2014 by Skani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Possible debris has been found. Damn, there goes my expert opinion that it was an alien abduction of the plane... Apparently not from that aircraft, so your theory still stands for the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelinoz Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Interpol does hold an accessible list of stolen passports, but certain countries border agencies have chosen not to use it. A stolen passport check is carried out on all passengers departing Australia on international flights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambethlad Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Dunno...I've been mistakenly quoted. it wasn't me who wrote that. T'was Lambethlad. Guilty. The speculation is that these recent attacks are to send a message from the Xinjiang Islamic separatists to the upcoming annual meeting of the National People's Congress in China. Maybe it's just wishful thinking - I would rather it be a terrorist attack than think that modern aircraft can just fall out of the sky without so much as a distress call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinsmom65 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Just watching CNN, and the FBI have stated that the tickets for the people traveling on the stolen passports, were brought and paid for in cash by someone in Iran. It just boggles my mind that it has been 3 days already, and still no sign of any part of the aircraft. Hope they find something soon, the agony of not knowing must be hard on the families of those on the flight. Cheers Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 That's odd. Previously they said they were purchased together in Thailand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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