carlosK Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Worry not Chris, I think for your wifes level of experience your figures sound about right! I am only at the start!! When/where are you looking to go? And on which visa? c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30038 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Hi Marie, Welcome to PIO! I am a relatively newly qualified nurse (sept 2009). I am wanting to go to Oz next Nov, working at the mo to gain as much experience as possible first. A few of my friends have used Geneva Health and they all highly recommend them. Regarding wages, for a Level 1 nurse/midwife (thats you and i) the salary is around $49,000 (thats in WA), not sure if thats the same across the board! Hope this helps a bit, go on to hospital websites often they have a lot of info on jobs etc. Maybe you could consider the Graduation Programme some offer. Good Luck i am worried now, i told my wife the wages were about $60 to about $80k, i am sure i seen on some sites for nursing jobs that was the case !!!! my wife is qualified nurse for 12 yrs now, and has worked in the same hospital since she passed. would this encure more wages maybe ? chris Hi Chris, The figure quoted are likely flat rat with no shift pay. My wife is a level 2 Clinical Nurse Consultant/Teacher (Qld) and her gross last year was 93000. There is extra pay for nights/lates/weekends which bumps the overall salary up considerably. There are also yearly salary increments up to 8 yrs and it is up to your employer whether they recognise previous service in the UK as incurring these increments, or whether they start a new migrant on level 2 or 1 on a first year increment. In my wife's case, they didn't but that was 15 yrs ago and I am led to believe that they are a bit more "charitable" nowadays. That said, a few of my wife's colleagues (UK migrants), although only being offered a level 1 position, were given a "nod and a wink" at interview, to apply for a level 2 position as soon as it became vacant, and in fact, one PIO member whom my wife obtained an interview for, whilst on a validation trip, got exactly the same nod. Although they couldn't give a date that they would be arriving in Oz they were offered a level 1 on the understanding that a level 2 would be there for them as a vacancy arose. IOW, their documentation had already fulfilled selection criteria for a level 2 position. kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marieh Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Hi Marie and welcome to PIO. I dont know anything about Geneva health so cant really help you there but I have heard they are a huge agency, we do use a lot of agency nurses and some are from Geneva and some from Drake. Midwives are on the same pay scale as nurses here as most are not direct entry midwives. They are general trained nurses who work on midwifery units. therefore are paid on the same scale as nurses. You would start as a level 1 nurse/midwife but i'm not sure how much that is. Check out the Queensland Health website and they might be able to help. My sister was working here as a midwife but went back to the uk. I dont want to put you off but midwives here do not have as much autonomy as in the UK. Please do your research on this. Things are changing slowly and they are now training direct entry midwives so things will progress. You might even be able to help this along. I would go to an Australian Expo if you can and talk to the people there. they have them every year I think. this is how I got my job. I'm at the Mater in Brisbane. congratulations on passing your assessments... Lynne Hi there Thanks so much for the reply. I have been researching for some time now and have become very aware of how different things are over there, but also as you say it seems that things may be changing slowly but surely (perharps thats wishful thinking on my part!). For me the pros seem to greatly outwiegh the cons and being that i'm unhappy where i'm living at the moment - I hope that the change in lifestyle will outweigh the loss of some of my autonomy (i hope i hope i hope!). I work with a Midwife who has just returned to the UK after a year, as she had always planned to do, she worked at the Mater Mothers hospital! What a small world. She did struggle with the work and found that the doc's tend to interfere where perhaps we would not in UK but she felt the lifestyle was worth it. I have looked at going to one of the expo's and will bare this in mind. Thank you again! :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30038 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 My apologies for getting the levels 1 and 2 apse about face on my previous post. I have now corrected so it may make a little more sense :rolleyes: kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest36187 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Regarding level 1 and 2 nurses, speaking from my own experience..... I have been a level 1 nurse since the day I started. I worked every weekend (my choice) and late shift once a week. SO my bonuses for that were great. 6 weeks ago took over a level 2 job. I had to drop my weekends and my late shift. I negotiated with my employer to allow me to continue a Sunday shift as Level 1. I took a promotion and lost money! Crazy huh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30038 Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 Regarding level 1 and 2 nurses, speaking from my own experience..... I have been a level 1 nurse since the day I started. I worked every weekend (my choice) and late shift once a week. SO my bonuses for that were great. 6 weeks ago took over a level 2 job. I had to drop my weekends and my late shift. I negotiated with my employer to allow me to continue a Sunday shift as Level 1. I took a promotion and lost money! Crazy huh! Yeah......bloody silly! Apart for the fact that she loves what she is doing, Bridget would not even consider a NUM's job that she has been head-hunted for (often). The loss of shift pay means that she would actually be worse off moving up the career ladder. She does fill in for Duty Nurse Manager though, which she wouldn't be able to do if she was a NUM, and the fact that this attracts level 4 pay is a bonus too. She is also on-call for the organ retrieval team which attracts overtime pay, and again, she wouldn't be able to do this either if she was a NUM. As the ward's Clinical Nurse teacher, she has lost a lot of weekends anyway and is only rostered on when she is the only one availble to get the skill mix right. The only good side that I can see from moving up the ladder, is the regular hours and weekends with the kids. If that's what you want, then fine, but our aim is earn it now, and then you're comfortable enough to do that later, or retire earlier.............not that I can ever see Bridget retiring :rolleyes: :biglaugh: kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chihiro Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 I would like your opinion on what i should apply for. I qualified as a nurse in France in nov 09, i worked there from december to march and we moved to Brisbane in april. I got my IELTS with the right marks and i lodged an application with QNC witch was transfered to APHRA. Do you think that i should apply for a graduate program which might be a more smooth way to start to work here ? Do you know if they will accept me since I have a french diploma ? Or should I ask hospital directly and do they have some special programs for overseas nurses ? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30038 Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 I would like your opinion on what i should apply for.I qualified as a nurse in France in nov 09, i worked there from december to march and we moved to Brisbane in april. I got my IELTS with the right marks and i lodged an application with QNC witch was transfered to APHRA. Do you think that i should apply for a graduate program which might be a more smooth way to start to work here ? Do you know if they will accept me since I have a french diploma ? Or should I ask hospital directly and do they have some special programs for overseas nurses ? Thx As far as I know, all overseas graduates must have at least one years experience to gain employment in the public sector other than on a new grad programme. New Graduate Recruiting info can be obtained here Work for Us | Nursing | Graduate Online Nursing Recruitment | Participating Hospitals Many of last years new grads didn't find a programme based in Brisbane (they were full......more grads than places) but I have heard that the programme is widened this year and I notice from the list above that hospitals who didn't participate last year, are participating this year. good luck kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emmahardy214 Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 Our daughter is missing home she's 11 and want to do secondary school over there, I do admit I think the education is better in UK.Yes the Mater is an interesting place to work I won't say to much as I think they have spys on some of these forums!!!! I enjoy where I work now I'm at the Hyde Park Hospital, love the girls I work with and have a great unit manager. I did start at Pimlico and that was hard going I did a year there and don't think I ever fully settled. We are just trying to sell our house and then we're off, to be honest it's lovely here at this time of year but can't stand another summer!!! How are you enjoying your grad year?? its pretty good so far, i have been lucky with my rotations though! i am hoping to start midwifery training when I have done my grad year. we are pretty lucky, our boy is only 5 so he has just settled right in. he has made good friends at school. ( he is in prep but with years ones as well) we got here in feb so i have an idea that the summer is going to be bad but we have just moved house and made sure every room has air con! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnes Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 Hi there Thanks so much for the reply. I have been researching for some time now and have become very aware of how different things are over there, but also as you say it seems that things may be changing slowly but surely (perharps thats wishful thinking on my part!). For me the pros seem to greatly outwiegh the cons and being that i'm unhappy where i'm living at the moment - I hope that the change in lifestyle will outweigh the loss of some of my autonomy (i hope i hope i hope!). I work with a Midwife who has just returned to the UK after a year, as she had always planned to do, she worked at the Mater Mothers hospital! What a small world. She did struggle with the work and found that the doc's tend to interfere where perhaps we would not in UK but she felt the lifestyle was worth it. I have looked at going to one of the expo's and will bare this in mind. Thank you again! :biggrin: Hi Marie, Can i ask where you work now as this girl sounds like my sister !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brill Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 Hi Marie, Can i ask where you work now as this girl sounds like my sister !!!!! Hi , Can anyone guide me that if 5 years continous education is in English ,can doctors get exemption from IELTS for 457 visa? Any experiences and guidance . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest itsSHIRLEY Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 Hi mags, I am an adult nurse only been qualified 2 years and aged 42, hoping to move to brisbane or sunshine coast. Had a holiday there thought it was great. Im married husband does not have a particular skill or trade, got two kids aged 15 and 12.Hvae had skills assesment, registered with the australian nursing board and am waiting for SMP for queensland. Shirley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maggie82 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Hi Shirley Was just wondering if you contacted hospitals in Queensland directly or if you have gone through an agency? Lara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maggie82 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Hi Everyone Was just wondering if anyone could give me some advice! If I was looking to get state sponsorship would it be best for me to contact the hospitals myself or would it be better to go through an agency? A girl I did my trainning with went through Geneva Health about 2 years ago and got a really good job in Bunbury WA, but not sure what I should do for the best! I will look forward to hearing from you Lara x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest itsSHIRLEY Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Hi lara, will probably do both, have seen lots of nurses asking about geneva health, havent seen any bad write ups, will also be sending my cv directly to hospitals but want visa first. Also most hospitals will omly consider you once you are over there, but it doesnt mean that you have to set up only one interview. I am keeping options open as i am not sure where to live , will live near wherever i get a job. so will have to take that into account as well. Are you also consodering employer sponsered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdb Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Go through an agency but be careful which one you choose as there are some useless idiots working in this industry. the organisation I work for finds positions for Nurses in hospitals that sponsor, Also we always help candidates with the paperwork side if things too. I've heard of some agencies who try to charge candidates for their services, This isn't normal in this industry so avoid at all costs. If you need any advice let me know and i'll put you in contact with my colleague who deals with the nursing side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosK Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Go through an agency but be careful which one you choose as there are some useless idiots working in this industry. the organisation I work for finds positions for Nurses in hospitals that sponsor, Also we always help candidates with the paperwork side if things too. I've heard of some agencies who try to charge candidates for their services, This isn't normal in this industry so avoid at all costs. If you need any advice let me know and i'll put you in contact with my colleague who deals with the nursing side of things. Hi cdb, hope you dont mind me asking which organisation you work for? I am a registered nurse and looking to make the move to Australia, I would be looking for hospital sponsorship so would be interested in speaking to your colleague. Hope you dont think im being cheeky, but hey, if you dont ask you dont get!!! Thanks c :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdb Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Hi cdb, hope you dont mind me asking which organisation you work for? I am a registered nurse and looking to make the move to Australia, I would be looking for hospital sponsorship so would be interested in speaking to your colleague. Hope you dont think im being cheeky, but hey, if you dont ask you dont get!!! Thanks c :smile: Hi there, Of course I don't think you're being cheeky , I work for a company called PULSEjobs, A large UK outfit with an office in Australia. I can't see hospital sponsorship being a problem as most hospitals do sponsor applicants. I don't want people to think i'm spamming so if you want more info drop me a PM and i'll send you my colleagues email address so you can discuss things with him directly, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisandelaine Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 has anyone any idea what they think it will take for our visa, we will be finishing submiting the online visa tonight. it will be a 175 visa and going to Perth, i think we prob be a CAT 3 !!!!, but some how hoping nurses get CAT 2 ? all the new changes have messed us all about, cus we hoped at the start we wud have got ove there by next march/april 2011. thanks and any info or suggestion are gratefully accepted.:jiggy: chris and elaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Egans Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Hi all We are moving to the Gold Coast at the end of Sept (from sunny Blackpool) with PR visa's. OH has been applying for jobs via the Smart Job website she has applied for around 5 job up to now starting from 1 July, does anybody know how long it takes to get a reply from these guys, on her status these jobs are still listed and say they are 'in progress' so I presume the jobs have not been filled but she has not heard a thing only a conformation email saying application successful. She works in the Mental Health side of things (8 yr experiance with NHS & Private)and currently is working in the community which she would like to continue with when we get there but is not worried about going back on the wards if necessary. What are the chances her securing work before we arrive (it would be a big weight of our shoulders). Any advice / direct contacts greatly recieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdb Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 From my experience of trying to secure a position before I got here its quite rare to get a reply without an Australian address, I applied to an agency who then sorted me out some interviews and I got the job I have now, Apply to agencies as they are more likely to offer you assistance from the very start and sort interviews out on your behalf from the UK and also provide advice on visas etc. If you apply to any recruitment companies and they ask for money from you walk away as this is a very corrupt practice employed by a few of the larger companies here in Australia. If you need any help contact me by PM and i'll have a look at what I can do to help. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geoff N Nat Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Gday, Ive been on the gold coast for 3 months working on a neurosurgical ward at the Allamanda hospital. So far everything is going well the staff are really friendly, ward manager is great as in off duty and stuff as I have two kids millie 5 Harry 4. Staffing levels are great I have just come in from a late shift and had 5 patients and none of them were really unwell. Having said that I was one of the few who wasnt leaving the UK because they are disillusioned with the NHS, I actually loved my job in the UK, I worked as a specialist nurse with patients who have had a subarachnoid haemorrhage for 2 days a week and worked for 2 days with the critical care outreach team. so although the ward is nice it is not very challenging and for anyone who is used to working as an autonomous practitioner they may find that it is very much going backwards as in you cant do anything without the doctors strict orders and this can be frustrating as well as possibly deskilling. but it is only early days yet and for now the job suits me as I can focus more on settling into life down under. Which I have to say has so far been a lot easier than I was expecting, my kids have just took to Aussie life with no problems ( mind you what kid wouldnt when your at the beach most days and in and out of the pool.) Also the Allamanda is a private hospital so I dont know if things are the same in the public sector. Word of warning anyone heading to wellington point, Cleveland areas, my friend has been working at Greenslopes nad she said it is worst than in the uk, on most shifts she has 10 patients on her own with a care assisstant and most of them are on a PCA and need assistance with all their ADLs she also said morale is really low all the staff are moaning and looking for jobs elswhere, as is she, she has just had an interview at the redland bay hospital. I do trust her opinion as I worked with her for 7 years in the UK and she is a hard working positive and motivated nurse, so BEWARE. good luck to everyone sharon hi im a nurse in the uk looking to moving to brisbane. can you tell me if the jobs are plentyful out there and did you find the process of moving out there long and difficult? any advice would be welcomed. thanks natalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest susanli Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Hi All, what a great thread this is, i have got lots of info so far. I am from Ireland and am a 'mature' nurse general and paeds, i have got an offer of sponsorship from a hospital in Geraldton, they will sponsor initially for a 457 and then assured me after 3 months they would sponsor a PR. When i did the phone interview i was told it would be a full time position, when i got the job description and conditions it states its a 35 hour week and therefore classed as partime, my question is is this a common thing? does it give them some kind of tax break or something? will it effect my entitlements ? or my plans to go for PR. I will be bringing my 18 yr old daughter under my visa , we are very excited and terrified at the same time. any advice or info on working in Geraldton would be great too. thanks s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cyprus2008 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 hiya all looking for some advice, ive recently lodged my visa application 5th july 2010 176 (family sponsored). Im a registered general nurse working on a medical ward in wales, query is due to the recent change ie taking between 18-24 mths to get a visa granted would it be worth myself applying for 457 visa untill mine is granted under sponsorship, im looking to go to penrith nsw as i have family there, dont know what to do wait or come to oz on a temp visa? be grateful for any advice confused welsh nurse:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisH1 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Hi All, When i did the phone interview i was told it would be a full time position, when i got the job description and conditions it states its a 35 hour week and therefore classed as partime, my question is is this a common thing? s In Queensland, ful-time is 38 hours per week. Most positions actually have you working 40 hours per week, therefore accruing an extra day off per month. This day off is usually referred to as an "accrued day off" (ADO), but some locations refer to it as a "rostered day off" (RDO). Just to confuse things further, those locations that do refer to the extra day off as an ADO, refer to the normal days off as RDOs. Whereas those who refer to them as RDOs refer to ordinary days off as "days off"!! I am not familiar with the WA nurses industrial award (it will be online if you search WA sites), but in Qld, NSW and Vic, working part-time can reduce your entitlement to annual leave. I would certainly check with your potential employer what they are actually offering, and what are all of the offers in the contract regarding annual leave, etc. You may even wish to consult the local WA nurses union: Australian Nursing Federation Industrial Union of Workers Perth Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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