Wonderingaloud

Are you both currently in Australia? The 457 is no longer available it’s been replaced (if your partners visa is a new application?) If he is already on a 457 I’m afraid I’m not sure of the answer of how to add you to it. But bridging visas only come into effect when your current visa expires (not canceled- if the 457 is cancelled the bridging visa gets canceled with it I believe. This is usually so people can remain in Australia while they await the outcome of another visa they have applied for.) Sorry that’s not overly helpful, perhaps someone more knowledgeable than I can assist.

RRVs are for permanent resident holders. If you have PR you can travel in and out of Australia for (I think) 4 years without issue. After that time, you apply for citizenship, get an Australian passport and then you can travel freely on your passport. If you haven’t obtained citizenship 4 years after your PR visa was granted you need a RRV in order to get back into Australia. Your PR visa doesnt expire. What visa do you hold and how long have you had it? If it’s a temporary visa you can’t get a RRV, as you aren’t a resident who is returning. Maybe you could embellish a little on your circumstances in order for someone to help you?

It wouldn’t let me edit the above post, here’s what I wanted to write when I re-read the thread. Yes, my mistake, the notation has been removed, but it only means the notation on your registration. The conditions of your registration haven’t changed in that if you fail to meet criterion 5 i.e. the 10 continuity of care cases, you will need a period of supervised practice. To answer your original query, based on my experience, yes, it will be difficult to find an employer willing to take staff on with a supervision period required and all the associated paperwork it creates. That said, perhaps in the last few years the process has been simplified for employers to make it easier for internationally qualified midwives to gain employment. But it wasn’t half difficult when we did it. Good luck!

Yes, it only means the notation on your registration “not educationally prepared for continuity of care experiences” is no longer required. From the NMBA: Qualification experience requirements Midwives in Australia are required to complete specific minimum supervised professional experience requirements as part of their program of study. Internationally qualified midwives who hold a qualification that is assessed as meeting all the qualification criteria other than criterion 5, the professional experience requirements, may be registered by the NMBA with a condition requiring a period of supervised practice1. 1Prior to June 2018, Midwives who had not completed continuity of care experiences were registered with a notation that stated that they were not educationally prepared for midwifery continuity of care experiences. The NMBA has now determined that this notation is no longer required. In a nutshell you will still need a period of supervised practice if you fail to meet criteria 5 i.e. the 10 continuity of care cases. Regards

Hi there. Yes your registration with APHRA will come with conditions, and will require a period of supervised practice and a number of hoops to jump through to meet APHRAs requirements. Even then, you will have a notation on your registration to state that you can’t care for women in a continuity of care model I.e. a midwifery group practice. To be honest, you will most likely find it difficult to find an employer willing to take this on. The paperwork is quite massive and APHRAs instructions are not clear on what you and the employer have to do. My workplace took it on for 2 UK trained RMs about 2 years ago, after they had completed it all they said ‘never again’. My workplace has been recruiting quite strongly for midwives with the right skills and experience but if they were UK trained and needed the supervised practice they were not interviewed. It’s a shame because we actually have a large amount of British midwives who work here with vast experience and skill sets who would never have been employed if these requirements were in place back then.

Thanks for the tag @Amber Snowball Yes I work as a midwife here, I can’t comment on the visa side as I came on the old 457 and then got the 186 PR visa so never had to do points. Having said that I still needed to do IELTS to register with APHRA. Yes, the supervised practice is a big issue for UK qualified midwives. When did you qualify Manma Midwife? It sounds like the program has now included continuity of care cases formally in your training which is where the problem lay. As long as the number meets APHRA requirements and is detailed your university transcript perhaps you might avoid the whole supervised practice. It will make life A LOT easier for you finding a job too. I would be interested to hear what your skills assessment finds. Good luck with it all. Happy to answer any midwifery related questions you may have. You may already know but just be aware midwifery here is not the same as in the UK. Very obstetrically focused, high CS and IOL (general intervention) rates. Yes there are birth centres but they are the exception rather than the rule. You have to take it in your stride rather than fight the system but I have seen some very passionate UK midwives get very frustrated and disheartened with it.

Definitely check with an agent. Im not saying not to honour your arrangement but I would be interested to know if the 2 years is built into the visa- I didn’t think it was and therefore immigration couldn’t cancel the visa anyway?

I’m not 100% sure but you are not a citizen until the ceremony and you are given your certificates. Just passing the test is not enough. As for the 2 years with the employer, isn’t that a moral agreement as a pose to a formal one? In which case having citizenship won’t matter, you are still leaving before the 2 years is up. You hold a PR visa so the company can’t cancel that because you haven’t stayed for the 2 years. That’s not a rule built into the visa from immigration. I was sponsored by my employer and it was understood I’d stay for 2 years and if I left before that time I had to pay a % of the relocation costs back that was on a sliding scale (the closer to 2 years the less I repaid). This was built into my employment contract. Are you sure that’s not the same for you?

Based on what you’ve posted it is unlikely you would qualify for a permanent visa. You need a skill with the relevant study or training to back it up (usually degree), experience in that field AND it has to be on the Australian skills list. A working holiday visa age is 30, so you are too old for that. Only option to live here permanently would be to marry an Ozzie but even then that’s not as simple as it sounds (to get into Australia, that is). Sorry mate, the truth is nowadays Australia is a privilidge for a select few. Many would like to move here but it just isn’t possible. Gone are the days of the £10 poms and massive work shortages across Australia.

You would need to look at a permanent residence visa with a family so you would be looking at points for skilled migration. To work as a registered nurse in Australia you will need a nursing degree. You don’t say when you expect to graduate but time is not on your side being 38. Furthermore, for additional points you will need experience and whilst you may have many years experience you only get assessed on those years that are post graduation, so you wouldn’t get any points for this. Again time is not on your side. I have a friend who is from India and is a nurse and has had awful trouble just getting her APHRA registration because she is from India. Good luck, I’m not fully up to date with requirements as it’s afew years since I did it (I am a midwife) but it’s not looking too promising I don’t think. There may be someone else with more up to date infor that could help.

We had this situation. Our daughter was born when we had PR but not yet citizenship. The passport agency required evidence of her citizenship, her birth certificate AND that we were PR holders at the time of her birth. Our PR grant letters were not accepted as evidence, they would only accept a stamp in our passports as proof. (?) We explained they no longer do this as it is all electronic but they would not budge. They advised us to get a citizenship certificate. So we contacted the dept. of home affairs and made enquires to get her a citizenship certificate, and guess what they needed as proof ? A PASSPORT. Stuck between a rock and a hard place. In the end we couldn’t complete the electronic application because it didn’t account for this situation and we had to attach a letter explaining it all. We eventually got the citizenship certificate and this was used to get our daughter her passport. This was 3 years ago, no idea if the passport office have updated their requirements so that they all align. Good luck

If you were at PR visa holder at the time of your baby’s birth you are entitled to paid parental leave (providing you meet the eligibility requirements set out under the terms regarding work and income etc) You may also be entitled to other family benefits based on your family income etc. Best to go to Centrelink, sit down with someone who can advise based on your personal circumstances. You have until your baby is 1 to claim PPL and to receive all the payments they need to start at the latest 18 weeks before his/her 1st birthday. I’d get onto it now tbh. Congratulations on your new addition.

Here in Brisbane we have a ‘Chumley Warner’s’ British fish and chip shop. It’s awesome, not sure what potatoes they use, if they’re frozen or whatever but it’s always packed full of brits and it’s well worth the (albeit slightly more expensive) price.

We live in Brisbane and I miss the UK terribly at Christmas time. It isn’t the same in the heat BUT we still decorate, have plenty of lights up and make our spaces cosy and Christmassy. Some houses round our area are amazing for lights and decorations and that always puts us in a festive mood. Especially coming home to warm mince pies with baileys cream. Oh and on Netflix there’s a program- well more a recording really of a fireplace- literally 60 minutes of burning wood. There’s 2- the second one is ‘birch wood edition’ This will be our 8th Christmas in Brisbane and we always do a roast -like someone else commented my husband would divorce me if I cooked him BBQd seafood on Christmas Day. I usually do the prep the day before so there’s not a great deal to do on Christms day, and we have the aircon on really low. After lunch we we spend the rest of the day relaxing and pigging out on all the usual festive treats, watch the kids play with their toys and sometimes have an evening walk. A lovely cheese board is my treat on Christmas Day evening. It can be magical but I find you have to work harder at it than in the UK. Christmas is what you make of it regardless of where you live.

Make sure you read up on The Hague convention- once in Australia your child cannot be removed unless your partner gives permission. It’s worth considering if there is a possibility your application for PR is refused. It may mean you have to leave Australia and won’t be able to take your child with you. This is all just friendly advice, I of course have no knowledge of your situation and/or relationship status.

Even before you get stuck into navigating the visa, skills assessments etc be aware you will need permission from the father of your child to remove him from the country. If he doesn’t agree you are looking at a long and expensive court process to prove it is in his best interests. Not an easy thing to do. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but your parents could only migrate once you have PR. Even then parent visas are long waits and crazy expensive (upwards of 60k I believe) Good luck

Yes, but it was 4 years ago and our application was very straightforward. The sponsoring company had sponsored many times before so we were reassured by this but to be honest, quite naive about the whole process. We were also unfamiliar with the concept of an agent. Had I known what I know now from perusing this forum I’m not sure I’d chance it going alone again even though it was uncomplicated, AND especially not now with the higher fees, the many, many hoops one is expected to jump through and the ever tightening immigration noose. Best of luck

Just to finish, we went to Terry Whites and she had it done for $45, no prescription needed just a quick history details form. Didn’t even need an appt, we just walked in. Thanks to The Pom Queen for the suggestion.

Thankyou all. I have had the pertussis vaccine myself when 28 weeks. I understand this offers some protective factors to Bub until s/he is old enough to get 6 week vaccine. MIL does not have a problem with getting vaccinated, she will have had the usual schedule at some point but has not had anything for a number of years and I understand pertussis is one that is highly recommended to have as a booster if planning to be around newborns for any period. I understand I can’t protect my baby from everything and everyone, but statistically s/he will be in contact with and therefore more likely to get something from immediate family. This is the reason it is recommended for close family, and grandparents (in addition to parents) have been identified as a likely transmission pathway in cases of pertussis over the last 15 years. With the whole vaccination debate quite ripe (still) and with more parents choosing not to vaccinate their children (their choice) one can depend less and less on herd immunity and is the reason IMO we have seen a rise in cases over the years. As a health professional I have also seen babies with all sorts of things and knowing whooping cough is preventable I am happy to follow current recommendations on the subject. I don’t want to get into a vaccination debate. As MIL is a visitor I fully expect to be hit with the full cost, I just wondered where she could get it and the approx cost. I’ll look into Terry whites, thanks Pom Queen.

Sorry slightly off topic post. I am pregnant and my mother in law is here visiting for the next few months. She has not had a whooping cough vaccine and I know it’s recommended for persons who will be in close contact with newborns/young infants. Does anyone know what the approx cost will be for her. I don’t expect she’ll get any rebate, she is a British citizen. Thanks

I looked into it at one point and was told no because I was a direct entry RM. I perhaps wrongly assumed this was the case for all regional areas. I applied at Bundaberg hospital too and got the same response and they’re not that remote. But I agree with you, fantastic experience if you’re in the right mindset for it.

Not sure how long it takes now but I do know once it’s approved you need to present in person within 3 months to validate it (if that’s the right word). Have a look at some other threads and you’ll have to figure it out based on how long your visa will take/APHRA will take and if you are even ready to move at that point. Good luck

You need to be dual trained. (Maybe the OP is?) Given the shortage they need a jack of all trades approach and not just midwifery skills.

As above to be honest. Who knows what immigration will look like in 4 years time and really it’ll be more like 6 as you will need some experience first. UK midwives have been hard hit in the last 2 years alone with the registering body APHRA (NMC in UK) changing the goalposts for UK midwives to practice in Australia. In short, as it currently stands you need supervised practice for 6 months and a ton of paperwork to meet the requirements and even then you will have notations on your registration and cannot work in a continuity of care model. Many employers will not be bothered with all this effort. My hospital did it with 2 and stopped straight after. They are interviewing right now and I know for a fact any UK midwives who applied without registration were not considered. Too many hoops. Good luck with your training, maybe look a little closer to time of qualifying to see how the land lies. At the very least make sure the course is a degree though, as even if midwife is still on the list after 4 years they won’t down grade qualification requirements to a diploma, it tends to get tougher. All the best

My husband is IT too, when we arrived (albeit 7 years ago) he had a couple of interviews (within a week of landing) with small businesses who were impressed with him but they told him to start with he’d be playing the part of ‘coffee boy’ I.e. start at the bottom and work up. He was a bit proud for that so he ploughed on and secured a job with the RFDS in IT there. ( as a side note after he was interviewed the guy walked into the office next door and OH heard him say ‘yeah he’s a Pom but he’s got a ripper reference mate’) Anyway he absolutely loved it, great experience and now he’s working in a much more corporate environment in the city but one he still enjoys. He’s been able to take little steps up the ladder too and expand his scope, something he wouldn’t be able to do in UK (he doesn’t think). I do think the work face has changed since we came though, jobs really were in abundance if you had the right attitude and skills. We were so lucky we came when we did. Good luck I hope it works out for you.