Angel J-C Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I am a fit Female of 72, with one child a citizen of Australia and two in the UK. I am currently doing a double Masters in Ireland. I would like to emigrate to Australia. Please can anyone advise me the best way and cheapest way to proceed, I have looked at the different visas and got very confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I am afraid you don't qualify. The age cut off for skilled visas is 45 and for aged parent visas you need to pass the balance of family test which would require two of your three children to be living in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel J-C Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Thank you for reply but I’ve heard differently. That is why I have proceeded on this site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Angel J-C said: Thank you for reply but I’ve heard differently. That is why I have proceeded on this site Who has told you differently? I’m afraid they’re wrong. You are well past the age to get a skilled visa of any kind regardless of your qualifications Edited December 26, 2018 by Marisawright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 45 minutes ago, Angel J-C said: Thank you for reply but I’ve heard differently. That is why I have proceeded on this site Well, you did ask for advice. I guess if you've heard differently somewhere else then they must know something that the rest of us do not. But from what you've said I don't think anyone else will tell you different but consult an agent and see if they can pull a magic rabbit out of a hat - nothing is going to be either quick or cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel J-C Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Marisawright said: Who has told you differently? I’m afraid they’re wrong. You are well past the age to get a skilled visa of any kind regardless of your qualifications How lovely of you to help. I’m not asking for a skilled visa. I just want to come here and enjoy Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel J-C Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Quoll said: Well, you did ask for advice. I guess if you've heard differently somewhere else then they must know something that the rest of us do not. But from what you've said I don't think anyone else will tell you different but consult an agent and see if they can pull a magic rabbit out of a hat - nothing is going to be either quick or cheap. Yes and your advice was great fully received. It may be that’s it’s different due to age. I am trying to get experienced info off of those that have been there done that, as there is no better before I hit the consult/agent route. Cheers Quoll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 What visas were you considering / have read about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbye grey sky Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Marrying (or co-habiting) with an Australian citizen for a couple of years and moving over together might be your most likely option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 You might get a longer visit visa that will allow you to spend a year at a time in Australia with 6 months out. Or do a permanent summer of six months in each country. You won’t get a visa that will allow you to work or live permanently though. Retirement visas have been discontinued and investment visas cut off at 55 I think, certainly not for over 70s. partner visa may be your only hope as no age limit on that. What visa were you told about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Angel J-C said: Yes and your advice was great fully received. It may be that’s it’s different due to age. I am trying to get experienced info off of those that have been there done that, as there is no better before I hit the consult/agent route. Cheers Quoll Most reputable agents will give you a free initial consultation, so that may be the easiest approach. Try GoMatilda or Pinoyau.com. The problem you're facing is that most countries do not want migrants our age, so they make it very difficult. The reason is that, though you're fit and healthy now, statistically the great majority of people in their seventies and eighties need regular medication, and it increases as time goes on. There's also an increasing need for intervention, hospitalisation and ultimately, end-of-life care. During their working life, all Australians pay tax and Medicare levies to pay for those services in their old age. When you move to Australia on a permanent visa, you immediately become eligible for all of those services, without having paid a cent. That's why there's such a huge fee for the Parent Visa - to go some way towards paying for what you'll cost the taxpayer in your later years. As an Australian taxpayer myself, I think that's only fair! The problem for you is that even if you could pay the high fees, you don't meet the "balance of famliy" test, which is one of the essential criteria for a Parent Visa. Most of your children are still in the UK. I am flummoxed as to what other kind of visa you could apply for, other than visiting regularly on tourist visas. Edited December 26, 2018 by Marisawright 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Marrying an Aussie! A la Gerard Depardieu and Green Card but immigration like to know it’s a real relationship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip1 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Angel J-C said: Yes and your advice was great fully received. It may be that’s it’s different due to age. I am trying to get experienced info off of those that have been there done that, as there is no better before I hit the consult/agent route. Cheers Quoll People in your situation won’t have been there and done it as you can’t. I’m sure you want to move to Oz and enjoy it, millions want that too. However, getting a visa isn’t easy and for most it’s not possible. Just the same the other way round. There will be many a 72 year old living elsewhere in the world that would like to move to be UK but they can’t. People with children in Oz can look at getting a visa but as has been mentioned, only if they pass the balance of family test which means they have to have at least 50% of their children permanent resident in Oz. Whoever told you different is wrong. There are tens of thousands of parents curently waiting in queues to get a visa, all of which pass the balance of family test. If only it was a as easy as I just want to move there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip1 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 On 26/12/2018 at 06:08, Angel J-C said: Thank you for reply but I’ve heard differently. That is why I have proceeded on this site Did you manage to find out from whoever you heard differently from what visa they were talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel J-C Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 No Tulip I have been busy with family life. Hope you have had a wonderful holiday season too, whatever you have been doing. You are lovely being concerned for me. Warm blessings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 On 26/12/2018 at 18:53, Angel J-C said: Yes and your advice was great fully received. It may be that’s it’s different due to age. I am trying to get experienced info off of those that have been there done that, as there is no better before I hit the consult/agent route. Cheers Quoll Yes to answer your question we did it, but the visa/option is not available any more. Perhaps this is what you have heard about? there used to be a long term temporary retirement visa the 410 which was stopped in 2005 to new applicants. Also the very expensive temporary investor retirement 405, which I think has also been stopped to new applicants? You would need to check that. We came in 2003 on the 410 retirement visa, which we renew every 10 years, we are fully self funded, can purchase a property, pay tax, don’t cost the country anything, no Medicare etc. but have the right to live here long term. Apart from coming on a parent visa which I don’t think you qualify for or on a visitor visa, I think you are out of luck, but do consult an MA to make sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Angel J-C said: No Tulip I have been busy with family life. Hope you have had a wonderful holiday season too, whatever you have been doing. You are lovely being concerned for me. Warm blessings Stay in your beautiful country, Oz has nothing better to offer you in all honesty except for far hotter weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeman Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 There is a new temporary 5 year visa for parents which will be available soon, which can be renewed for another 5 years I believe. Otherwise, maybe one of the investor retirement visas but they are very expensive. Others are right in that you do not qualify for a parent visa as you do not pass the balance of family test. Otherwise one of the long visitor visas may be suitable. As suggested it would be advisable to have an initial consultation with one of the reputable MARA registered agents who post on here such as Alan Collett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeman Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Sorry forgot to post the link to the information on the temporary five year visa https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/italian/en/article/2018/11/29/new-five-year-temporary-visa-parents-grandparents-migrants-coming-2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 58 minutes ago, Bridgeman said: There is a new temporary 5 year visa for parents which will be available soon, which can be renewed for another 5 years I believe. Otherwise, maybe one of the investor retirement visas but they are very expensive. I thought the investor retirement visas were closed to new applicants? Also it's quite likely the temporary 5 year visa for parents will have the same "balance of famliy" test as the other parent visas, so that's not likely to help either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 As Ramot says there was a route but that is no longer available. That is often the problem people tell you how they did it or someone they knew did it, but rules change all the time and usually against immigrants, they rarely make it easier! Have you looked on the Home Affairs website at all? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeman Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 On 28/12/2018 at 14:59, Marisawright said: I thought the investor retirement visas were closed to new applicants? Also it's quite likely the temporary 5 year visa for parents will have the same "balance of famliy" test as the other parent visas, so that's not likely to help either. Yes, sorry just realise the investor retirement visa has recently been closed. As I said it is always best to take advice from a qualified agent. However, I do know there is no balance of family test for the temporary 5 year visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel J-C Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 28/12/2018 at 16:28, rammygirl said: As Ramot says there was a route but that is no longer available. That is often the problem people tell you how they did it or someone they knew did it, but rules change all the time and usually against immigrants, they rarely make it easier! Have you looked on the Home Affairs website at all? Thank you for your note. I will look at the Home Affairs site. Thank you for suggestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Angel J-C said: Thank you for your note. I will look at the Home Affairs site. Thank you for suggestion I still think your best option is to consult a good agent. Try pinoyau.com or ozimmigration.com. Either of them should give you a free consultation. If they can see a way to get you a visa, they will tell you. The thing is, if they can't see a way to get you a visa, you have to believe them. They are highly reputable and experienced migration agents who deal with the minutiae of visas every day. If they can't see an option, it doesn't exist. It's tempting to think, "there must be a way round this" - but the harsh fact is that, for the great majority of the world's population, there isn't. These days, Australia accepts only a narrowly defined range of people, which is getting narrower all the time. Unfortunately there are many stories still circulating from before migration became so difficult, and that's what leads to people like yourself hoping for a miracle. Edited January 1, 2019 by Marisawright 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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