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Lisa5487

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So we are looking to emigrate to Australia, my parents (retired) visited a few years back and fell in love with Australia, in particular Perth. This is where they want us all to settle.

They are taking us out there next year for us to see if we like it enough to make the move. 

We are spending a few weeks in both Geelong, Melbourne and Fremantle, Perth to try and get a feel for both. 

My question is, Melbourne (surburbia not inner city) or Perth?

We have a young family (three boys aged 10, 7 and 6weeks old) 

Opinions please!

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1 hour ago, Lisa5487 said:

So we are looking to emigrate to Australia, my parents (retired) visited a few years back and fell in love with Australia, in particular Perth. This is where they want us all to settle.

They are taking us out there next year for us to see if we like it enough to make the move. 

We are spending a few weeks in both Geelong, Melbourne and Fremantle, Perth to try and get a feel for both. 

My question is, Melbourne (surburbia not inner city) or Perth?

We have a young family (three boys aged 10, 7 and 6weeks old) 

Opinions please!

Before you start choosing where to live, do you qualify for visas? WHat skills do you and your husband have? Presumably your parents are aware they will then have to wait until you can sponsor them for parent visas?

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Perth is nice but in a recession right now so work may be a problem. People seem to either love it or find it boring. See how you feel when you visit. Melbourne is lovely, I don't know about Geelong but have heard it's not so great, again you will know if it feels right. Maybe don't have a place in mind, go there and spend time looking at many areas to see what you think 

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4 hours ago, Lisa5487 said:

They are taking us out there next year for us to see if we like it enough to make the move. ...........

My question is, Melbourne (surburbia not inner city) or Perth?

 

I'd wait until you've visited...you may find you have a strong reaction (good or bad) to one or the other.   Perth seems to provoke strong reactions  - some love it, some hate it.    Also have a look at real estate prices when you are here.  Depending on your budget,  you may find that the areas you would really like to live are unaffordable.

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Teaching primary or high school? Primary school teachers are many here and lots cannot find work in or around the main cities. So many applicants for a position. Lots end up taking a rural contract for a year or two to be able to work and build up brownie points as  it were for working in the sticks. Rural Australia is probably not where you will want to be. I’d be focusing on where there may be work city wise.

As to where to go, it’s great your parents loved Perth but if it doesn’t tick your boxes or offer decent work options, it’s not really worth the sacrifice you’d have to make for your parents to be somewhere they like. You are the ones needing to work and bring up a family. Personally I’d consider any of the main cities or areas around them or along the east coast which is more populated and could perhaps offer more employment options overall.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Lisa5487 said:

Yes we qualify as my partner is a teacher, he would look to get sponsorship, yes my parents know they would have to pay for their visas and would have to wait

Be better looking at a 189, sponsorship for teachers is rare as there are so many in oz. If he can qualify on a 189 that would give you far more freeedom of choice in where to live and who to work for. 

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Concentrate on visas. Being a teacher does not automatically mean he qualifies for a visa. For example, it depends on a teacher of what - primary or secondary. Years of university education. Age and others. 

With regard to parents it is no simple visa. For example do they have any other children. Do they have any health issues. Are they aware how long it takes - from you making the move they are going to be waiting about 4 years. 

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I fear this may be one of those “pie in the sky” type things. As the others have said so well, it’s not necessarily going to be a straightforward “do we like it, yeah let’s move tomorrow” kinda thing. I’d be really concerned at reliance on being a teacher - many hurdles there and actually getting a permanent job as a teacher in a place that you really want to live (along with thousands of unemployed Aussie teachers) can be a deal breaker. Your parents are probably better going for long summer holidays in Australia and then summering again in UK. 

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12 hours ago, Lisa5487 said:

Yes we qualify as my partner is a teacher, he would look to get sponsorship, yes my parents know they would have to pay for their visas and would have to wait

You should be aware that there is an oversupply of teachers in Australia and sponsorship is very rare except occasionally specialised teaching or in very remote outback places.

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14 hours ago, Tulip1 said:

Assume they pass the balance of family test?

We are aware it’s not an easy move, and sponsorship may not be an option. 

We are also aware that my parents moving will not be straight forward and will take time.

Yes we have family living in Australia already including my brother who is a resident.

We know my partner can get employment so not a problem there.

Its not a ‘pie in the sky’ move. It’s been thought about and discussed for a long time prior to us going out there in the next three months for our fact finding holiday. 

We are going out there to see if it’s worth progressing any further as until we’ve been how can we say.

My main question is and was: Perth or Melbourne for a young family. 

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I've only visited Melbourne as a tourist and not ventured much out of the CBD so can't comment.  Perth is somewhere that people seem to love or hate and have an opinion on wether they've lived here/visited or not.  We've been here 11 years next month and moved with an 11 and 7 year old, it's been a great place to bring up our children.  We don't live far from Freo.  Like anywhere, there will be areas you like the feel of and others you don't.   My suggestion would be visit a few places to get the feel of them.  For WA where you live really might depend on work - e.g. if you OH gets a teaching job in Joondalup - you aren't going to want to commute from Mandurah.

Good Luck with the process - hope you have a great holiday and are able to make your mind up after the visit.

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Any large city will be fine for a young family.

I have lived in Melbourne for 40 years and love it but I'm sure Perth would be nice too.

For some reason I don't understand Perth seems to attract a large number of British migrants, but it is very solated from the rest of Australia.

Can be harder to find prfessional jobs than the East Coast and is more prone to the vagaries of the mining industry

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Doesn’t matter. There are families with young kids in both.

If getting a job isn’t important then look at the other things you want. Probably aim for the same side of the country as your brother, it makes family get togethers cheaper. If you want to spend your life surfing then Perth probably has the edge but if you want more variety within cooee then go for the East coast. Neither is inherently better than the other. The eyeball test will tell you which meets your needs.  

I’ve met more Poms who’ve returned from Perth than from the East coast but that’s probably because more Poms tend to have congregated in Perth in the first place. 

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Assume you'll be going at Easter if he's a teacher, nice time of the year to visit although not sure how you'll manage a few weeks in each place in the school holiday time. Just a thought, if your brothers already living there and has PR your parents could lodge a parent visa anyway, they don't need to wait for you to go. With queue times over 3 years it would make sense 

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My parents and their visas aren’t a problem we are looking at, they have that all in hand and are in no rush (like us) so our priority is where we prefer to live and go from there.

My brother travels a lot so not a priority to be where he is.

Yes Easter fit our travels, we are lucky my other half gets a longer holiday working in a private school.

Thank you for your help. 

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On 12/28/2017 at 07:14, Tulip1 said:

Perth is nice but in a recession right now so work may be a problem. People seem to either love it or find it boring. See how you feel when you visit. Melbourne is lovely, I don't know about Geelong but have heard it's not so great, again you will know if it feels right. Maybe don't have a place in mind, go there and spend time looking at many areas to see what you think 

Perth is not in recession now that is false information.

On 12/28/2017 at 03:04, Lisa5487 said:

So we are looking to emigrate to Australia, my parents (retired) visited a few years back and fell in love with Australia, in particular Perth. This is where they want us all to settle.

They are taking us out there next year for us to see if we like it enough to make the move. 

We are spending a few weeks in both Geelong, Melbourne and Fremantle, Perth to try and get a feel for both. 

My question is, Melbourne (surburbia not inner city) or Perth?

We have a young family (three boys aged 10, 7 and 6weeks old) 

Opinions please!

Having lived in both Melbourne and Perth it's definitely Perth for me especially with a young family to raise, but opinions are just that.

If you are happy you qualify for the visa I suggest you research as much as possible on both locations that research is probably best done not on this website but from other sources, there is a wealth of valuable information here about visas, but everything else is just opinions and when one is given it is usually counters straight away with a differing one so not much us to the OP.

I'd be looking hard at the job situation where ever you chose though.

Good luck.

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