newjez Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I am sure we have had posts on this forum where returnees have said they were not able/allowed to get NHS treatment. at least not on first returning not sure what the time limits if any are. There are limitations if you are non resident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I know for certain that a local anaesthetic is available on the NHS for endoscopy procedures in England as my mum was offered one and the NHS website confirms it. T xwww.nhs.uk/Conditions/Endoscopy/Pages/Introduction.aspx They do sedate to the point the patient feels like they are under a general. But saying that my mil had two disasters at Brighton where she was fully aware and choked. They referred her to a specialist pancreatic unit in Guildford and they did it no problem, she wasn't even aware. I imagine they are worried about over sedation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 My husband and I emigrated to Australia in 2007 on a Contributory Parent Visa and became Citizens in 2012....however family circumstances have made us rethink where we really want to be at the end of our lives e.g. here in Oz where so far we have been very happy and involved or back in the U.K. with our daughter and remaining relatives and good friends. Here we have a son and our two gorgeous grandchildren aged 7 and 9....it breaks my heart to think of leaving them but...unfortunately there has been a recent big rift in the family between our daughter-in-law and in particular my husband which has caused him to want to return asap to the u.k. I am so torn in this decision...in fact with a daughter in U.K. and a son here ...I have and would always would be torn...but where is it best for us to be? I guess my place and loyalties are for my husband of 45 years! Are we too old at nearly 70 to be contemplating another big move across the world? We would probably look to re-settle in the South East where we came from but it is looking a bit pricey!! Would welcome any reflections on our dilemma...any tips etc We seem to have gone off on a health tangent. Sorry. I did have a period two years ago where I didn't speak to my father for six months. He made a comment about my middle son putting on weight on Facebook , (sore subject during my life) and I went ballistic. It escalated. We sorted it eventually. He now understands the boundaries. Say what you want to me, but don't put it on Facebook. We did use my mil as childcare. But we did pay her on an hourly basis. (Not commercial rates fortunately) she recently stopped charging as she says she no longer does anything, they are independent. My brother has my parents running around all over the place. The say they can't afford to survive without them, but they do have a lot of holidays. Plus, they could have made choices to make life easier. When we visited, my parents had to schedule all their time around my brothers kids. They are being taken advantage of, and it does bug them sometimes. I think there is a happy medium. Parents often have conflicts with daughter in law too. Not sure why. Sometimes it's good to talk. Sometimes not. Why not try six months in the UK to give you all some space? Then revisit again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolman Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I am sure we have had posts on this forum where returnees have said they were not able/allowed to get NHS treatment. at least not on first returning not sure what the time limits if any are. No, there are no limitations for returnees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip1 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 What a sad situation you are in. Agree totally with the person who posted they love their grandchildren but they are not suragate parents. Too true. I would never have expected my parents to have my kids day in, day out. They helped a little and that's how it should be. They did some babysitting and had lots of fun with their grandchildren but the day to day grind wasn't for them, it was my responsibility. To the lady who wrote the post, what do you want to do? I hear you when you say your loyalty has to lie with your husband of 45 years but that goes both ways. His loyalty lies with you and he shouldn't be putting you in a situation that you feel forced to move back because he's had this very sad issue with daughter in law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiederek Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 It is much much more dangerous to put someone under general anaesthetic and I'm surprised it is considered worth the risk for a procedure of that type. They give you sedation that lets you drift away, it's not a general anesthetic. Lovely sensation and all very humane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolman Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 They give you sedation that lets you drift away, it's not a general anesthetic. Lovely sensation and all very humane! I was referring to the poster who was knocked out when given these procedures, not sedated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiederek Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Cancer patients are a priority in the NHS. You don't wait around for cancer treatment. Saying that, it is possible for operations to be cancelled for many reasons, mainly involving the patient health,. But also if emergency cases arrive. This happened with my uncle. They had to reschedule his bowel cancer several times because his bloods weren't right, and once there was an admin cockup. But cancer is a priority. You don't go on a waiting list. Certainly not the case the way the NHS operates in Northern Ireland. My sister-in-law has been going through a terrible time for months. They couldn't organise a booze-up in a brewery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiederek Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I was referring to the poster who was knocked out when given these procedures, not sedated. Don't know what you mean. Your comment is very obscure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolman Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Yes thankfully the rest of the UK isn't like NI. I have no idea why the NHS is performing so badly in NI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolman Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Don't know what you mean. Your comment is very obscure! How can it be obscure, it's perfectly clear. My comment you quoted was in reply to a poster who said she was knocked out when they had these procedures, not sedated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiederek Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Yes thankfully the rest of the UK isn't like NI. I have no idea why the NHS is performing so badly in NI. I think it has a lot to do with the local assembly and how they manage finances. All I hear from Northern Ireland is cut-backs here and cut-backs there! Health care facilities have been cut to the bone and it's just getting worse. I can't believe what I'm hearing from my family and friends. Since the NHS seems to be working so well in the rest of the UK, all I can say is be very thankful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolman Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I think it has a lot to do with the local assembly and how they manage finances. All I hear from Northern Ireland is cut-backs here and cut-backs there! Health care facilities have been cut to the bone and it's just getting worse. I can't believe what I'm hearing from my family and friends. Since the NHS seems to be working so well in the rest of the UK, all I can say is be very thankful. Yes I am very thankful indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I think Australia's Medicare and the NHS are much the same - we should be grateful to have them (look at America!!) BUT the service is variable depending where you are in the country. In Australia, we keep hearing horror stories (especially from parts of Queensland for some reason) but people in other areas are getting good care. In the UK, I am shocked by how difficult it is to see a GP in Southampton, and some other big cities are the same - but there are plenty of areas of the country where it's not a problem at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolman Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I think Australia's Medicare and the NHS are much the same - we should be grateful to have them (look at America!!) BUT the service is variable depending where you are in the country. In Australia, we keep hearing horror stories (especially from parts of Queensland for some reason) but people in other areas are getting good care. In the UK, I am shocked by how difficult it is to see a GP in Southampton, and some other big cities are the same - but there are plenty of areas of the country where it's not a problem at all. Yes I agree, it shouldn't be dependant on area in either country but of course it is. I had some terrible experience's down in Geelong and a couple of bad experiences in Queensland as well, the most depressing was our eldest when he broke his arm. I have had no significant negative experiences here in the UK and in fact a surgeon in Bath quite literally saved my lower leg. Because of this it is inevitable I see things skewed in one direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Certainly not the case the way the NHS operates in Northern Ireland. My sister-in-law has been going through a terrible time for months. They couldn't organise a booze-up in a brewery! Thought about transferring care to England? I don't know how easy if it is possible but I thought you had freedom of choice. Expensive, but could be easier in the long run and flights are cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sustain Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 My husband and I emigrated to Australia in 2007 on a Contributory Parent Visa and became Citizens in 2012....however family circumstances have made us rethink where we really want to be at the end of our lives e.g. here in Oz where so far we have been very happy and involved or back in the U.K. with our daughter and remaining relatives and good friends. Here we have a son and our two gorgeous grandchildren aged 7 and 9....it breaks my heart to think of leaving them but...unfortunately there has been a recent big rift in the family between our daughter-in-law and in particular my husband which has caused him to want to return asap to the u.k. I am so torn in this decision...in fact with a daughter in U.K. and a son here ...I have and would always would be torn...but where is it best for us to be? I guess my place and loyalties are for my husband of 45 years! Are we too old at nearly 70 to be contemplating another big move across the world? We would probably look to re-settle in the South East where we came from but it is looking a bit pricey!! Would welcome any reflections on our dilemma...any tips etc Age is not the barrier Why settle where you came from (South East) and not look to new start in South West, and give the grand children somewhere different to come stay? best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KALINDA Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 Well we did originally retire to the West Country - Devon - and were prepared to 'live the dream' there until our son decided to emigrate to OZ. He invited us to join him and his new wife and we arrived here in 2007 and have had a wonderful time during those years especially being around our two beautiful grandchildren. However circumstances have changed somewhat and my husband is dead set on returning to the U.K. ... probably in the South East where our daughter lives and where most of our good old friends and family are situated. I am very torn in this decision and am trying to be positive. I would be interested to hear from any others who have returned to that part of the country and hear views on whether it was a good or bad decision on their part. Comparison on cost of living etc. We have become Australian Citizens and so at least that will make travelling between the two countries a bit easier. I sometimes wish we had stayed in beautiful Devon and just travelled to Oz for frequent holidays but....then we would have missed out on the best years of the grandkids. Not an easy decision!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Well we did originally retire to the West Country - Devon - and were prepared to 'live the dream' there until our son decided to emigrate to OZ. He invited us to join him and his new wife and we arrived here in 2007 and have had a wonderful time during those years especially being around our two beautiful grandchildren. However circumstances have changed somewhat and my husband is dead set on returning to the U.K. ... probably in the South East where our daughter lives and where most of our good old friends and family are situated. I am very torn in this decision and am trying to be positive. I would be interested to hear from any others who have returned to that part of the country and hear views on whether it was a good or bad decision on their part. Comparison on cost of living etc. We have become Australian Citizens and so at least that will make travelling between the two countries a bit easier. I sometimes wish we had stayed in beautiful Devon and just travelled to Oz for frequent holidays but....then we would have missed out on the best years of the grandkids. Not an easy decision!! We have moved from Oz (Perth) to the South East. We are in Windsor. Cost of living actually varies a fair bit across the South East. Windsor is VERY expensive for housing. However, if I travel only a small way from it, prices drop sharply. One of the best ways for you to keep prices low is to look at towns that don't have a rail link as they are not popular with London commuters and so a lot cheaper. Other aspects of living costs; we find food a lot cheaper and a fair bit better quality. Petrol is a lot more expensive - about twice the cost of Australia, but, we drive less. Household bills we find are cheaper, particularly internet and telephone / mobiles. Have not bought any clothes yet so cant comment on things like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depti72 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Hi I have had a string of replies to my "welcome" post. (not particularly helpful) I should have come straight here!!! We are 74 and 78 respectively (both had birthdays recently ) We have the same problem, our daughter-in-law and our grandchildren (whom I no longer see) aged 20, 18 second marriage 12 and 10 on the Sunshine Coast where we emigrated to in 1980. We moved to Darwin to be with our daughter, grandchildren 12 and 10 Due to family rift between brother and sister which we are drawn into because of son-in-law/vs daughter-in-law we have decided that it just isn't what we want at this time of our lives. We also have large family on both sides in UK, When we came to Oz we had two children and two suitcases, determined we would have a "family" when both children married and had kids. Dream on..... We have been asking if anybody had made the move and what were the stories and like you we were from South East. I have sort of got over the torn bit, both my eldest are at Uni and quite honestly unless I take out a facebook account (which I will never do) they are not really interested in what we are doing or what decisions we make, so know that the other four will head the same way. By then, will we be able to make the move ? We have all our faculties in abundance and hear of U3A, photographic clubs, so much to do etc. we wonder what would be missing ? If it costs as much as they say will we have enough to fly back, and how long will health etc. allow that. We are so undecided, we have been for holidays and loved it but don't feel it's the same, everybody knows you're leaving and everyone knows you are coming back so no help in the reality quarter.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 HiI have had a string of replies to my "welcome" post. (not particularly helpful) I should have come straight here!!! We are 74 and 78 respectively (both had birthdays recently ) We have the same problem, our daughter-in-law and our grandchildren (whom I no longer see) aged 20, 18 second marriage 12 and 10 on the Sunshine Coast where we emigrated to in 1980. We moved to Darwin to be with our daughter, grandchildren 12 and 10 Due to family rift between brother and sister which we are drawn into because of son-in-law/vs daughter-in-law we have decided that it just isn't what we want at this time of our lives. We also have large family on both sides in UK, When we came to Oz we had two children and two suitcases, determined we would have a "family" when both children married and had kids. Dream on..... We have been asking if anybody had made the move and what were the stories and like you we were from South East. I have sort of got over the torn bit, both my eldest are at Uni and quite honestly unless I take out a facebook account (which I will never do) they are not really interested in what we are doing or what decisions we make, so know that the other four will head the same way. By then, will we be able to make the move ? We have all our faculties in abundance and hear of U3A, photographic clubs, so much to do etc. we wonder what would be missing ? If it costs as much as they say will we have enough to fly back, and how long will health etc. allow that. We are so undecided, we have been for holidays and loved it but don't feel it's the same, everybody knows you're leaving and everyone knows you are coming back so no help in the reality quarter.... Do it! I'm a little bit younger but I really don't feel like I am missing anything at all. Kids here and there and none of us can really be bothered with Skype but it doesn't mean we love them any the less. A diary so full that I couldn't have worked even if I wanted to. Services that definitely surpass those of ACT where we lived. Of course, we have hedged our bets (belt and braces is always good huh) - we have dual citizenship, we still have our house in ACT which our son now uses (he's had his ups and downs unfortunately) and our plan is to come and go as we like once my parents have popped their clogs and no longer need us. The South East is expensive but you don't have to live in Cambridge - there are villages out in Suffolk which are close but considerably cheaper for example. The bonus is that I have an Australian perspective of distance so lunch in Farnham, no worries, afternoon tea in Manchester, of course ... I don't even find the weather depressing - I don't know if we have a microclimate or what but it has been great around here for the last nearly 5 years - last Tuesday it did rain though so I didn't go for my walk (end of the world!). Is it perfect? no of course not, nowhere is (still looking for the desert island with my DH, my wool stash and broadband) but whereas in Australia I was overweight, unfit and sliding into a bored old age, here I am less overweight, very fit and hyper active. I have friends, many of them new, and I laugh a lot (something I rarely did in Australia). I don't know many for whom money is no issue but you cut your cloth and all that. We can't take it with us and I am a founder member of the SKI club so will make the most of it while I can. Good luck with your decision - I have several friends of your age who would be back in a heartbeat if they could (finances, family etc) - one flew out the other day from her annual trip and said she always leaves a little bit of herself behind here and it gets harder and harder to settle back - her DH won't even move into the city let alone to UK! Adventure on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amibovered Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I don't even find the weather depressing - I don't know if we have a microclimate or what We do, if Cambridge was an Australian capital city, it would be the second driest after Adelaide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesky12 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Cancer patients are a priority in the NHS. You don't wait around for cancer treatment. Saying that, it is possible for operations to be cancelled for many reasons, mainly involving the patient health,. But also if emergency cases arrive. This happened with my uncle. They had to reschedule his bowel cancer several times because his bloods weren't right, and once there was an admin cockup. But cancer is a priority. You don't go on a waiting list. I am a cancer patient in the UK and can not fault the NHS......GP on a Monday...quick access cancer clinic on a Wednesday which was X-rays..consultant..scan and biopsy and results......operation 10 days later...now having chemotherapy....can not fault the level of care by all of the doctors and staff .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I am a cancer patient in the UK and can not fault the NHS......GP on a Monday...quick access cancer clinic on a Wednesday which was X-rays..consultant..scan and biopsy and results......operation 10 days later...now having chemotherapy....can not fault the level of care by all of the doctors and staff .... Sadly my wife was diagnosed last week. She's booked in for an op next week. Can't emphasise how good the NHS is. Incidentally, her surgeon is Polish . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Sadly my wife was diagnosed last week. She's booked in for an op next week. Can't emphasise how good the NHS is. Incidentally, her surgeon is Polish . So sorry to hear that newjez, I can't fault the NHS either and my son has a rare genetic condition which I was really concerned would get the same level of care compared to the private treatment he had in Australia but it has been every bit as good and mine too - my rheumatologist is Polish too as it happens. I hope your wife continued to get the treatment she needs, the availability of certain drugs seems to be the sticking point for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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