Bibbs Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 So it is all about saving life is it? How would you have any idea if folk are not still going down, with the military secretive operations of this government and dismal performance in managing the camps? Didn't see many candlelit protests before. Then again, I didn't actually see any this time either. How do I know? Because I work with people *IN* those camps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Now you're just maligning the Chinese. Have you ever been crushed by a Chinese? Ever? Or any other oriental come to that. No? I thought so....... What are you rabbiting about? Any idea? I thought not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Didn't see many candlelit protests before. Then again, I didn't actually see any this time either. How do I know? Because I work with people *IN* those camps. Not implying anything about you of course, but wasn't the recent violence against refugees purportedly carried out by "those working with people *IN* those camps"?? What I am trying to say here is that it doesn't make you (or anyone similar) a better person. Doesn't make youi a bad one either, but in the context of this particular discussion, evidence shows it to be kind of irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Didn't see many candlelit protests before. Then again, I didn't actually see any this time either. How do I know? Because I work with people *IN* those camps. Your point being? Not many died under Australian care before. Is your claim to work in those camps in any way significant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Not implying anything about you of course, but wasn't the recent violence against refugees purportedly carried out by "those working with people *IN* those camps"?? What I am trying to say here is that it doesn't make you (or anyone similar) a better person. Doesn't make youi a bad one either, but in the context of this particular discussion, evidence shows it to be kind of irrelevant. Irrelevant indeed. There are many roles in those places of detention and many poorly qualified or inadequately trained staff. Some good some bad others indifferent. Serco has a mixed reputation at best . Hands often tied to what can be actually done by those employed to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Man with hands in pockets, feels cocky. I wonder what ever could induce such a feeling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I wonder how many people realise that per percentage of population size ( Australia being quite small in comparison to other countries) that Australia takes more refugees than any other country if you take into account how many we let in . Other countries take more but have a lot bigger population. Also I wonder how many people realise just how many refugees fly into Indonesia with a passport than board a boat for Australia , and you guessed it they magically lost there documents . By doing this and arriving legally in Indonesia they are therefore illegal immigrants if they continue to cross borders without documents. Indonesia should be detaining them and charging them when caught. IMO. I do feel for the genuine refugees but seems most are not now on the boats.i had lunch today with a university teacher friend today. He spoke to his class on certain maters, I can't be bothered putting all I was told about it but makes me angry what certain so called refugees are trying to achieve. Although both sides of government would like the public to believe that it is simply untrue. According to UNHCR figures (Global Trends ) Australia ranked 68th in the number being hosted. Pakistan highest at 1.7 million. Australia was 47th on a per capita basis and 91st relative to natural wealth. As most nations do not have an official resettlement policy, in other words they just roll up and are housed in camps if not living in the community, where as Australia does along with a handful of countries, is where the high figure materialises. Even then according to 2012 figures Australia was second to Canada. In absolute numbers the USA took most at 66,300, followed by Canada then Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossmoyne Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Flag not everyone is totally brainwashed like yourself, and not everyone believes everything they are told in simple words..Most asylum seekers are freeloaders..they pay thousands of dollars to get to Australia for a better life..I dont like freeloaders and dont want them around me, so if that labels me as a racist then that is what Iam and Im not ashamed to admit this...You appear to label anyone that doesnt agree that they are all genuine refugees as a racist..Look at the state of the UK now, and alot of it is down to people scared to say anything and being called a racist..by do gooders like you.. Well said Echidna! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Well said Echidna! And the populist Aye's look like to be in front. An aberration for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echidna66 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 You don't know many(any) refugees I expect do you? Sooner have one of those "freeloading"folk living next door to me than a neighbour with your what shall we say, pommy tabloid attitudes. Or is it suburban Murdoch induced infusions directing your thought? Most asylum seekers that become refugees are very hard workers. Many are often better educated than the workers this country imports by the shed full. They are generally anything but free loaders. In fact their get up and go will add greatly to this nation's gene pool in time. As for being brainwashed, perhaps you should search your own motives for sprouting the views you do, populist as they are, and tell me whose brain washed? I have no idea nor care if your racist. Not my issue. The content of the post does deserve a retort as such though. Do you have a life outside of this cyber world..It appears you spend your whole day on Poms in Oz, firing in answers to other peoples posts immediately after they have posted..Are you a POM??...I despise that imbecilic word, POM, its so Boganite..another imbecilic Aussie term.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiralx Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I wonder how many people realise that per percentage of population size ( Australia being quite small in comparison to other countries) that Australia takes more refugees than any other country if you take into account how many we let in . Other countries take more but have a lot bigger population. Yes, this totally incorrect - Australia has about 1 refugee per 1000 of population, not too bad but way less than most countries which have much smaller populations: Australia is taking refugees at half the rate of Belgium, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movetoaus Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Oh my goodness, is this thread still going on!? You lot are starting to sound like a bunch of politicians, bla bla bla, and nothing has changed. Shall we just agree to disagree and move on with our lives the best way we can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 No. Im sure they will come round to my way of thinking eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiralx Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 No. Im sure they will come round to my way of thinking eventually. Can you confirm in what way your own quality of life has improved since the boats were allegedly stopped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) I no longer have to worry about children drowning at sea, after being forced onto rickety boats by their parents. Edited February 27, 2014 by parleycross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveakaginge Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I see FOC (apt name by the way) is still shouting anyone down, with a differing view to his, even thought that different view, is a silent majority view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurPendragon Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 In defence of FOC. “In matters of conscience, the law of the majority has no place.” - Gandhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Would have been better if they could have spelt Doesn't right. I might be cold hearted or something but I was a bit surprised at the turnout for one guy getting killed. They showed a bit on the news and their was one lady sobbing hysterically like she'd known the guy or something. Pity they don't hold the same vigil every time one of our troops gets killed in Afghanistan. Lady that was sobbing at the vigil would probably be protesting that we shouldn't be there in the first place though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurPendragon Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Would have been better if they could have spelt Doesn't right. I might be cold hearted or something but I was a bit surprised at the turnout for one guy getting killed. They showed a bit on the news and their was one lady sobbing hysterically like she'd known the guy or something. Pity they don't hold the same vigil every time one of our troops gets killed in Afghanistan. Lady that was sobbing at the vigil would probably be protesting that we shouldn't be there in the first place though. "True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else."-Clarence Darrow (American Civil Liberties Union) And did she say to you that She doesn't feel sad for the soldiers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiralx Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Where's the hypocrisy? A refugee dies while in the hands and care of the Australian government, while the tragic drownings' victims were not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 We all know they were all Labor supporters just trying to make a political point. How many services were held for all the drownings ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 "True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else."-Clarence Darrow (American Civil Liberties Union) And did she say to you that She doesn't feel sad for the soldiers? Sorry mate, no idea who Clarence Darrow is and just because he said it doesn't make it true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 We all know they were all Labor supporters just trying to make a political point. How many services were held for all the drownings ? More like greenies they looked parley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest littlesarah Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 We all know they were all Labor supporters just trying to make a political point. How many services were held for all the drownings ? Many of the people who express sorrow and outrage at recent events resulting in the death of a man held in detention have been expressing outrage at the policies of both major political parties that incarcerate people indefinitely. Asylum seeker policy isn't about party politics - for many it is about respecting international law and upholding human rights. But I will say no more because no doubt I will be labelled as a 'Labor supporter' when in fact my motives come from a completely non-political place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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