Skyba Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 The scheme might work if it prioritises first time buyers or those with only one mortgage,im no tory,i cant abide them,but if theres anything to help the economy we have to embrace it and hope it works,i agree it "could" be abused tho,hence i stress first time buyers/one mortgage people. I used to stay in St Pauls,Armoury square,didnt think it was too bad tbh,but i like Bristol to be fair I agree, at first look it looks like a good scheme, and should only be used for people with 1 house, if that was the case then it's a good thing. my issue with the whole idea is that it's putting too much emphasis in the wrong place, this will not get the economy going again, the country was built up on the housing market before and look what happened, we need to concentrate on getting people in work and spending money on a daily basis before we start putting too much effort into people spending big. As I said before, whether it be 90% or 100% mortgage, it's no use if people can't afford to pay the repayments because they don't have any work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Its not that often that we do disagree though. No,probs not,i strongly disagree with your politics,but thats this thread,and i will go on disagreeing,but on another subject i will agree,none of it matters,i disagree on subjects,not because its a certain poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolbox Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Well done lads, its been a good ding dong.....shame the mp's on both sides didn't have such clear differences in opinion. Nite all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Well done lads, its been a good ding dong.....shame the mp's on both sides didn't have such clear differences in opinion. Nite all Av a goodun yer tory bastard:wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Lol, I'm not poor and I'm not suffering as much as most I'm just not so self absorbed that I can't see and understand others suffering. And in the nhs, the problems aren't with the odd broken arm lol, we're talking about actual sick people, I have chrons and have had major open bowel surgery, I have a friend with cancer, my girlfriend works in a ward which deals with people with similar bowel problems to me. The fact that you use a physio appointment and a broken arm to discuss nhs problems shows your lack of understanding.. What are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyba Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [/color]What are you on about? A broken arm is a quick trip to a&e and maybe an X-ray, people expect to wait as long as they need, a physio appointment is also another thing people expect to wait a little time for but it's not really that stretched. We're talking about REAL issues in the NHS where under staffing is Risking people's live, it's the people with serious illness who are seeing the effects of cuts to the NHS, people like myself who have had to attend hospitals on a weekly basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Dont pretend to know about the circumstances because you just made it clear you dont. A broken arm is a quick trip to a&e and maybe an X-ray, people expect to wait as long as they need, a physio appointment is also another thing people expect to wait a little time for but it's not really that stretched. We're talking about REAL issues in the NHS where under staffing is Risking people's live, it's the people with serious illness who are seeing the effects of cuts to the NHS, people like myself who have had to attend hospitals on a weekly basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyba Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Dont pretend to know about the circumstances because you just made it clear you dont. Yiu just said your wife has a bad neck and your son broke his arm, now unless your wife has just broken her neck I'm guessing its not life threatening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [/color]What are you on about? You must have been treated somewhere else, maybe that's what he means. I don't think the NHS treat broken arms and certainly don't give people physio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 You must have been treated somewhere else, maybe that's what he means. I don't think the NHS treat broken arms and certainly don't give people physio. I cannot quite work out what is going on, and what has a broken are and physio got to do with me?:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 You must have been treated somewhere else, maybe that's what he means. I don't think the NHS treat broken arms and certainly don't give people physio. Yes, we must have gone private without even knowing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I cannot quite work out what is going on, and what has a broken are and physio got to do with me?:eek: I think because they aren't life threatening they aren't really that big of an issue. Maybe that approach should be taken with a lot of things then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I cannot quite work out what is going on, and what has a broken are and physio got to do with me?:eek: It was my sons broken arm and my wifes physio, not sure how you became embroiled in it to be honest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I'm going in for key hole surgery on my knee tomorrow. I know it's not life threatening but M willing to give a report to the forum if people want it. Just my way of adding real life experiences to my post. Bit like the mortgage issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Im confused too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesia Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 :SLEEP:not surprised....maybe at last the two new lovebirds have snuggled down, totally worn out for an afternoon nap .....night PB & Skyba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 You've lost me now Are you kidding me :biglaugh: you obviously don't get th British sense of humour do you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 You must have been treated somewhere else, maybe that's what he means. I don't think the NHS treat broken arms and certainly don't give people physio. What the hell are you on about? You get as much physio as you need on the NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scrumpy Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 What the hell are you on about? You get as much physio as you need on the NHS. Not in Plymouth or Exeter, unfortuantley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Not in Plymouth or Exeter, unfortuantley Dont believe you one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 What the hell are you on about? You get as much physio as you need on the NHS. Do you really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Not in Plymouth or Exeter, unfortuantley Why are you lying.? Patients & Visitors Our Services Working For Us Our Organisation Working With Us You are here: Plymouth Hospitals Our Services A - Z of Clinical Services Physiotherapy Physiotherapy Appointments Contact Information Musculoskeletal Physio Useful Links Patient Information Home What is Physiotherapy? Physiotherapy helps restore movement and function to as near normal as possible when someone is affected by injury, illness or by developmental or other disability. And as a healthcare profession, physiotherapy's science foundation covers a broad and varied range of work which involves working with people to promote their own health and well being. (CSP website 2011). The title Physiotherapist can only be used by those appropriately trained professionals who have registered with the Health Professions Council (HPC) and whose details are on the HPC web site. Derriford Hospital Physiotherapy Department Zone E, Level 7 Derriford Road Crownhill Plymouth PL6 8DH Physiotherapy Reception: 0845 155 8208 Our Services Where do Physiotherapists work? Physiotherapists work on a variety of wards and outpatient settings within the hospital. The wards that our Physiotherapists work on include; Respiratory, Neurology, Orthopaedics, Elderly Care, Paediatrics, Women’s Health and Rheumatology. Our Physiotherapists also work within Musculoskeletal Outpatients, Fracture Clinic, Accident and Emergency, Hydrotherapy and within the Community. Musculoskeletal Outpatients: The musculoskeletal Outpatient team treat a variety of patients referred from primary and secondary care. Patients seen within this department include those with spinal and/or peripheral joint pathology. A full and comprehensive assessment of each patient will be undertaken and a treatment plan will be devised accordingly. Depending upon the problem identified treatment interventions may include home exercises, advice, electrotherapy, manual therapy, hydrotherapy, acupuncture or class work. We have a well equipped gym on site which holds several different weekly classes. There are several Outpatient clinics within the Plymouth area which include Plymstock, Plympton, Ivybridge and The Cumberland Centre. Orthopaedics: The Orthopaedic Team provides rehabilitation for patients who have had joint or bone surgery. The team covers the Elective, Trauma, and Fractured Neck of Femur wards as well as some day case surgeries. Patients who have undergone an Elective Joint Replacement are involved in an Enhanced Recovery Programme. This programme encourages patients to become active participants in their own recovery process and provides improved patient outcomes. Together with pre-operative Nurses and Occupational Therapists; the Physiotherapists provide a service named ‘Joint School’. This provides patients who are undergoing Elective Joint Replacements with essential information prior to their surgery. On the Trauma and Fractured Neck of Femur wards the Physiotherapists work closely with other members of the multi-disciplinary team to improve mobility, strength and aim to get patients safely home following their surgery. Contact: Katy Law, via the physiotherapy department Woman’s Health Team: This dynamic team assesses and treats a wide range of Obstetric and Gynaecological conditions across both Inpatient and Outpatient settings. In combination with the Outpatient department, the team also provides a telephone triage service for pregnant ladies with musculoskeletal issues, and helps to determine the best course of treatment. The team work closely with the wider multi-disciplinary team, such as continence advisors, GPs, Midwives and Consultants. Contact: Jen Cardew, via the physiotherapy department. Medical Respiratory Team: A service is provided by the Medical Respiratory Team to patients with acute and chronic respiratory problems and those affected by cancer. The team is formed of four physiotherapists and two assistants and this forms part of the multidisciplinary team involved in providing care and discharge planning for our patients. Physiotherapists use chest Physiotherapy techniques to help clear secretions and wean patients off oxygen and provide mobility assessments for ongoing rehabilitation. Contact: Jenny Watson, via the physiotherapy department. Medical Rehabilitation Team: Eleven Physiotherapy staff are responsible for providing a seven day service for the Medical Assessment Unit (MAU) and a six day service to the Health Care of the Elderly wards. Physiotherapists assess and treat complex patients with a variety of age-related neurological, respiratory and musculoskeletal problems. The team work as part of the multidisciplinary team to provide holistic care and appropriate discharge planning. Contact: Surgical Team: The team is made up of eight staff including a Clinical Specialist Physiotherapist. The team offer a service to those recovering from abdominal and vascular surgeries to promote rapid regaining of pre-admission mobility and the appropriate management of respiratory problems. The Physiotherapy team are responsible for several wards and the busy Intensive Care Unit assessing patients for mobility and treating them with chest Physiotherapy. The Physiotherapy team also provides specialist rehabilitation for patients following amputation. Close links with colleagues at Disablement Services and Mount Gould Hospital enable our patients to adapt to the changes in their ability and ensure smooth discharge planning. Contact: Trevor Phillips, via the Physiotherapy department. Cardiothoracic Team: The Cardiothoracic team provide support for patients undergoing Cardiac, Thoracic and Upper Gastrointestinal (GI) - Oesophagectomy, Gastrectomy surgery, enabling them to regain and often improve their pre-operative exercise levels. Major Cardiac, Thoracic and Upper GI patients are provided with appropriate pre-operative advice and information. The Thoracic and Upper GI Physiotherapists work alongside the specialist cancer nurse and palliative care teams where necessary. For both Cardiac, Thoracic and Upper GI patients a number of educational advice booklets are provided either pre or post operatively. The main areas of Physiotherapy involvement are chest care, mobility and returning home/fitness. Physiotherapy is a vital component of recovery post surgery as early mobilisation has been shown to help prevent chest infections, circulatory problems like DVT and promote independence. Download an advice leaflet here: Pre-op Physiotherapy Cardiac Surgery.pdf Pre-op Physiotherapy Gastro-Oesophagectomy Surgery.pdf Pre-op Physiotherapy Thoracic Surgery.pdf Pre-op Physiotherapy VATS.pdf Contact: Achin Sobti via the Physiotherapy department. Paediatric Team: The paediatric physiotherapy team consist of four physiotherapists and a paediatric orthopaedic extended scope practitioner. The team cover inpatient and outpatient case loads. Our inpatient service works with children admitted to the acute paediatric wards and paediatric HDU with a variety of respiratory, orthopaedic, neurological and neurodevelopmental conditions. We also see babies on the maternity wards and neonatal intensive care unit. Our outpatient service covers general outpatients (respiratory, musculoskeletal and neurological) and paediatric hydrotherapy as well as talipes clinic, hip clinic and CF clinic. The paediatric orthopaedic ESP takes the lead in the talipes clinic as well as working alongside consultant colleagues in hip clinic and paediatric orthopaedic clinics. Contact: Faye Nightingale via the Physiotherapy department. Neurosciences: Staff members covering Neuroscience are split into two teams; Neurosurgery and Neurology. They provide acute for patients who have sustained a head injury, spinal injury, Stroke and patients with a variety of neurological conditions. Treatment interventions include intensive care chest management, tonal management, exercise therapy, early mobilisation, respiratory therapy, collar care and splinting. The Physiotherapists work closely with all members of the multi-disciplinary team to ensure the best possible care is delivered to all patients. Both teams commence the rehabilitation process as early as possible and where required refer onto other rehabilitation units to continue the process and work towards discharge plans. The teams are supported by a consultant therapist - Jude Fewings, who assists clinically and is involved in the strategic development of the unit. Contact: Zoe Sibbick (Neurosurgery) or Chris Carr (Neurology) through the Physiotherapy Department. http://www.plymouthhospitals.nhs.uk/ourservices/clinicaldepartments/physiotherapy/Pages/Home.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Dont even get me started on physio - grrrrr! I didnt get any for my wrist even though my neighbour did when she had the exact same operation. The result now is that my wrist hurts like hell, im going to the doctors next week to see about it. I just have to do physio in the house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Do you really? Of course you do, what the hell are you on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyba Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I'm going in for key hole surgery on my knee tomorrow. I know it's not life threatening but M willing to give a report to the forum if people want it. Just my way of adding real life experiences to my post. Bit like the mortgage issue. Yes just like my real life experience with havin 2 seperate open bowel surgeries, one illiostomy and one panproctocolectomy, one under labour one under the Tories, the first, if you'd have asked me if I'd like to go private for free I would have said no, the second my family were trying to get a loan to send me private whilst I was recovering because the lack of staff caused problems which nearly killed me. I've spent almost 5 years under the care of the NHS and its the greatest health system in the world, problem is the government is now pushing it to the edge and through no fault of the people who work at the hospitals (drs nurses etc) people are get sub standard care which in some cases is putting people's life at risk. I've also had keyhole surgery in my knees and I wouldn't in any way expect someone who goes in for day surgery to be able to make an accurate observation of the reality of the staff shortages in the NHS, my girlfriend who works there everyday sees it, I've seen it after spending weeks on end sat in hospital beds or going in weekly for infusions and I've also seen many comments on here from NHS staff saying much the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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