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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-15/mixed-aracy-report-card-on-youth-wellbeing/4574294

 

60% of young people are sedentary. So much for the out doors / sporty life

 

A third are over weight or obese. So much for the healthy lifestyle

 

1:5 use drugs. So much for less social problems

 

Teen pregnancy rates are some of the highest in the developed world. So much for kids not growing up as fast here

 

Youth unemployment is an issue. So much for better opportunity.

 

It's not surprising. Oz is no different to any other developed country. It has issues.

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.........I think the gap is closing .......between the uk and Australia..........20 odd years ago..........the difference was huge....

...........now ime............there are a lot more similarities..........

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Having lived and worked around the world, I think the developed world has similar issues. Oz, doesn't escape them.

 

Regarding happiness. The happiest kids I have ever seen were in the DRC. They had nothing. Lived in mud huts with no running water or electricity and a life expectancy of 42. But they would be all laughing and grinning all the time. The most popular toy was an old bicycle wheel that they would run with pushing it with a stick. A treat was a piece of sugar cane.

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Very interesting! I'm tempted to send this to my in laws, in the UK, who believe that kids are better off in Oz because of the, "healthy food, outdoor lifestyle and aaaalll of the free things to do".

They never believe me when I tell them it's not really like that...they think I'm just a whinging pom with homesickness!...there may be some truth in that though ;)

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Well my son goes to a fab school one that we could never dreamed of affording on the UK. My son and my grown up girls are all slim, my son is not as active as I would like however he does get a lot at school with fitness sessions on the beach and a Camp coming up. So I do still believe we've made the right move for our children.

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To conclude from this report that Aus kids are worse off would be as stupid as assuming that Aus kids live more healthy outdoorsy type lives than their British peers.

 

Obviously there is more going on beneath the surface than just the headline grabbing points.

 

Re obesity, I'd say the biggest determining factor would be socio-economic class, just like it is everywhere else in the developed world: poor people are fat, eat bad diets and don't get enough exercise. The middle classes tend to be the opposite. I don't know how you'd go about bucking that trend but that is the way of things.

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Having lived and worked around the world, I think the developed world has similar issues. Oz, doesn't escape them.

 

Regarding happiness. The happiest kids I have ever seen were in the DRC. They had nothing. Lived in mud huts with no running water or electricity and a life expectancy of 42. But they would be all laughing and grinning all the time. The most popular toy was an old bicycle wheel that they would run with pushing it with a stick. A treat was a piece of sugar cane.

 

Yep fully agree. Same in Cambodia and other poor developing world countries.One thing I note is that kids have the freedom of movement. As houses don't tend to be fenced off everything is open.Great life to be a child providing no illness and enough to eat of course.

Does make life seem restrictive in the West though.

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I think kids can be just as healthy and outdoorsy in either country. Growing up in the UK I was never in. Did loads of sport and camped all summer. Literally. I see some of the neighbors kids here who never go out. Taken to school in the car, brought home and play computer games / watch tv seven days a week. I think it's all up to the individual and has little to do with country.

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Very interesting! I'm tempted to send this to my in laws, in the UK, who believe that kids are better off in Oz because of the, "healthy food, outdoor lifestyle and aaaalll of the free things to do".

They never believe me when I tell them it's not really like that...they think I'm just a whinging pom with homesickness!...there may be some truth in that though ;)

 

I lived as a child in both countries and would say each balanced out each other in the end.

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I think kids can be just as healthy and outdoorsy in either country. Growing up in the UK I was never in. Did loads of sport and camped all summer. Literally. I see some of the neighbors kids here who never go out. Taken to school in the car, brought home and play computer games / watch tv seven days a week. I think it's all up to the individual and has little to do with country.

 

Yes individual but I'd include environment as well. Some places are more condusive to outdoor activity than others.

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If the kids in the uk and australia are both having the same issues, it must be due to the same things. If kids in 3rd world countries are the opposite it makes identifying the issues fairly easy.

 

1) Internet

2) UK tv shows. (SBS and ABC here)

3) availability of fast food

4) availability of welfare

5) throw away societies

6) materialistic societies

7) money (see 1,2,3,4,5,6!)

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-15/mixed-aracy-report-card-on-youth-wellbeing/4574294

 

60% of young people are sedentary. So much for the out doors / sporty life

 

A third are over weight or obese. So much for the healthy lifestyle

 

1:5 use drugs. So much for less social problems

 

Teen pregnancy rates are some of the highest in the developed world. So much for kids not growing up as fast here

 

Youth unemployment is an issue. So much for better opportunity.

 

It's not surprising. Oz is no different to any other developed country. It has issues.

 

You omitted the positives - lowest rate of smoking in the world & no of people grsduating.

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It is very clear to anyone that a country doesnt just automatically make a child happier, our Brisbane born and bred kids are as happy as larry here and do the exact same things. Some kids who are moved to Australia will be better off, others wont and the rest will just do they always have. Often I think it makes parents feel better to think their kids are better off, its natural.

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You omitted the positives - lowest rate of smoking in the world & no of people grsduating.

 

Actually it said the youth smoking rate is among the lowest.

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Having lived and worked around the world, I think the developed world has similar issues. Oz, doesn't escape them.

 

Regarding happiness. The happiest kids I have ever seen were in the DRC. They had nothing. Lived in mud huts with no running water or electricity and a life expectancy of 42. But they would be all laughing and grinning all the time. The most popular toy was an old bicycle wheel that they would run with pushing it with a stick. A treat was a piece of sugar cane.

Yes and some of the happiest kids I've seen have been in India.Just goes to show hey?

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It is very clear to anyone that a country doesnt just automatically make a child happier, our Brisbane born and bred kids are as happy as larry here and do the exact same things. Some kids who are moved to Australia will be better off, others wont and the rest will just do they always have. Often I think it makes parents feel better to think their kids are better off, its natural.

Yes totally agree.My Adelaide born kids are the same.

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