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Hi all

I`m 46 yrs old and trying to find a way to get into Australia, i`ve just returned form three months working in Sydney and would like to go back if possible. My job is not on the skills shortage list so that isn`t an option unfortunately. I`m divorced with no children. 

If anyone on here has any ideas if this can be possible i would be very grateful for any advice 🙂

 

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1 hour ago, wrussell said:

You might qualify for a work visa, good for up to 4 years, and renewable. If you go to my website pinoyau.com and use the 'contact us' form I shall have a look at your case.

Not renewable unlimited times, though.  The OP didn't say he's looking to move permanently but that's what I'd think he means.

Might be asking for trouble to do another 4-8 years in Australia, then have to return to the UK in one's 50s.

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Hi All,

I am currently 41 and my partner is 36 and we have been considering moving to Oz for sometime. If we are joint applying, do I still need to be under 45 to be considered or does my partners age get taken into consideration? 

Thanks in advance.

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2 hours ago, s2plu82 said:

Hi All,

I am currently 41 and my partner is 36 and we have been considering moving to Oz for sometime. If we are joint applying, do I still need to be under 45 to be considered or does my partners age get taken into consideration? 

Thanks in advance.

Generally the main applicant needs to be under 45.

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3 hours ago, s2plu82 said:

Hi All,

I am currently 41 and my partner is 36 and we have been considering moving to Oz for sometime. If we are joint applying, do I still need to be under 45 to be considered or does my partners age get taken into consideration? 

Thanks in advance.

You don’t “joint apply”. One of you applies and the other comes along for the ride 🙂  If your partner qualifies for a visa then your age doesn’t matter

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On 18/02/2023 at 04:52, James44 said:

Hi all

I`m 46 yrs old and trying to find a way to get into Australia, i`ve just returned form three months working in Sydney and would like to go back if possible. My job is not on the skills shortage list so that isn`t an option unfortunately. I`m divorced with no children. 

If anyone on here has any ideas if this can be possible i would be very grateful for any advice 🙂

 

James

James, I'm not sure of your background/skillset, but you might want to check out the Global Talent Program (Global Talent Independent program (GTI) (homeaffairs.gov.au)). I was extended an invite at the ripe old age of 53 (in body, mentally I'm in my 30ies - at least that's what I believe ;)) and just celebrated my 54th birthday in Australia. I started the process in Mar/Apr 2022; we had visas issued in Aug (2022) and were on a flight by September.

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On 26/06/2023 at 01:15, Marisawright said:

You don’t “joint apply”. One of you applies and the other comes along for the ride 🙂  If your partner qualifies for a visa then your age doesn’t matter

Do I understand correctly that if I'm 40 and got a visa and my partner is 50, he just comes along with me with no problem?

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On 15/07/2023 at 04:33, MrsPOB said:

James, I'm not sure of your background/skillset, but you might want to check out the Global Talent Program (Global Talent Independent program (GTI) (homeaffairs.gov.au)). I was extended an invite at the ripe old age of 53 (in body, mentally I'm in my 30ies - at least that's what I believe ;)) and just celebrated my 54th birthday in Australia. I started the process in Mar/Apr 2022; we had visas issued in Aug (2022) and were on a flight by September. 

Hmmm, you must be very talented at something 🙂 This kind of visa is not for every person. And how and who determines the degree of talent? Was it some kind of commission or a survey?

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4 hours ago, LettCat said:

Hmmm, you must be very talented at something 🙂 This kind of visa is not for every person. And how and who determines the degree of talent? Was it some kind of commission or a survey?

It's really nothing overly complicated. You find your track; you get your recommendation and submit your proof of experience. It's no different than all the hard work anyone puts in to get their visas. The big 'rock' is that your profession or skillset needs to be on the list of professions that will help Australia thrive. And, like most countries, there are a lot of professions that are needed to build a healthy and thriving economy. One of my biggest accomplishments since being here has been hiring 25 Australians into role and helping them gain skills and qualifications in the tech space. But there's loads of other areas to build upon... if you have the experience, knowledge and skill, there's opportunity. It's not about being anyone 'special' we've all gained experience and skill, it's just about being willing to share and help others grow and be successful. 

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On 15/07/2023 at 11:33, MrsPOB said:

.... at the ripe old age of 53 (in body, mentally I'm in my 30ies - at least that's what I believe 😉

I have news for you, @MrsPOB -- everyone over 50 feels like they are still a 30-year-old inside.  That never changes.  I'm pushing 70 and I still jump when I catch sight of myself in a shop window or mirror.  My reaction is, "Who's that old bat?"

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24 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

I have news for you, @MrsPOB -- everyone over 50 feels like they are still a 30-year-old inside.  That never changes.  I'm pushing 70 and I still jump when I catch sight of myself in a shop window or mirror.  My reaction is, "Who's that old bat?"

LOL ... it's not really news, I know everyone feels that way. My 98-year-old grandfather keeps telling everyone he hasn't aged since 50. So very much a state of mind. The feeling I was trying to convey is that being over 45 doesn't stop or mean you can't contribute to the society or economy. If you have something to offer (and I think we all do through our backgrounds and experience) then don't let that stop you or hold you back from trying for a visa. 

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On 18/07/2023 at 16:35, MrsPOB said:

It's really nothing overly complicated. You find your track; you get your recommendation and submit your proof of experience. It's no different than all the hard work anyone puts in to get their visas. The big 'rock' is that your profession or skillset needs to be on the list of professions that will help Australia thrive. And, like most countries, there are a lot of professions that are needed to build a healthy and thriving economy. One of my biggest accomplishments since being here has been hiring 25 Australians into role and helping them gain skills and qualifications in the tech space. But there's loads of other areas to build upon... if you have the experience, knowledge and skill, there's opportunity. It's not about being anyone 'special' we've all gained experience and skill, it's just about being willing to share and help others grow and be successful.  

I got it, thank you. Also here - https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/visas-for-innovation/global-talent-independent-program/ - it is also written that you need to transfer skills. It is understandable, because that is how specialists are trained. But not everyone knows how to share experience. I'm not saying that he doesn't want to. It's just that he is not a teacher. That is why not everyone has such an opportunity.

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On 18/07/2023 at 23:35, MrsPOB said:

 One of my biggest accomplishments since being here has been hiring 25 Australians into role and helping them gain skills and qualifications in the tech space. But there's loads of other areas to build upon... if you have the experience, knowledge and skill, there's opportunity. It's not about being anyone 'special' we've all gained experience and skill, it's just about being willing to share and help others grow and be successful. 

The visa clearly states it's only for the "exceptionally talented" and those with "outstanding achievements".   That equates to special in my book.  

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5 hours ago, Marisawright said:

The visa clearly states it's only for the "exceptionally talented" and those with "outstanding achievements".   That equates to special in my book.  

I may be wrong, but as the Immigration Dept calls it a "permanent visa for people who have an internationally recognised record of exceptional and outstanding achievement in an eligible field", it definitely equates to someone being special!  think in my 25 years on these forums I have come across fewer than ten people who have actually got this visa. Surely if it was easy as is being made out above, then more people would be going for it?

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On 28/07/2023 at 18:59, Marisawright said:

The visa clearly states it's only for the "exceptionally talented" and those with "outstanding achievements".   That equates to special in my book.  

 

On 29/07/2023 at 00:06, Nemesis said:

I may be wrong, but as the Immigration Dept calls it a "permanent visa for people who have an internationally recognised record of exceptional and outstanding achievement in an eligible field", it definitely equates to someone being special!  think in my 25 years on these forums I have come across fewer than ten people who have actually got this visa. Surely if it was easy as is being made out above, then more people would be going for it?

Although the Global Talent Visa can be difficult to obtain, I think you may be confusing it with the old Distinguished Talent visa. 

The Global Talent Visa is allocated 5,000 spots per year, which is actually down from previous years where they were allocated 15,000 spots. 

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9 minutes ago, Raul Senise said:

Although the Global Talent Visa can be difficult to obtain, I think you may be confusing it with the old Distinguished Talent visa. 

I copied my wording from the Immigration website. Are you saying the Global Talent visa doesn't require the applicant to be exceptionally talented?

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Keep in mind that this... "permanent visa for people who have an internationally recognised record of exceptional and outstanding achievement in an eligible field" is a relative measurement based on the track/field in which you are looking to obtain a visa. I've been in the tech field for 25 years and have spent the last seven years focused on HPC/Data/AI/ML workloads. It may not be special to some, but to others, it is. Yes, I have a boatload of certifications, went through the ACS professional certification process, have several publications (whitepapers and studies) under my name and have done the international speaking circuit for High Capacity Workloads - all of which were submitted as my record of achievement within my field. 

When we were looking to return to Australia, I was given the impression that I was too old. Then it was suggested I wasn't talented enough. But that wasn't the case; the Global Talent visa was created to address issues around not having enough people in Australia within specialised areas that could help and contribute to a healthy economy. During the whole process, I was actually called a "unicorn" (which made me laugh); the reference was made because there are only a handful of women in the field in which I focus. Now to those I work for and with, I am considered special because of what I can bring to my role, but to others who have no idea about my area of speciality, I might not meet their definition of "special" or "exceptional". It really is relative to the track/field in which you are looking - you can't paint everyone with the same brush. It takes many different professions to contribute to a healthy economy, not just one kind.

Referring back to the OP who asked if there was a way, I mentioned there is... actually there are several ways. But, like everything, you need to figure out what matches up with who you are and what you can bring to the table. At the end of the day, if you can show how you can contribute to Australia's economy and society positively (and better yet, exponentially), then the powers that be will see that there is an advantage to extending a visa.

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31 minutes ago, MrsPOB said:

At the end of the day, if you can show how you can contribute to Australia's economy and society positively....., then the powers that be will see that there is an advantage to extending a visa.

If that were true, everyone would get a visa. An ordinary policeman can contribute positively to Australia's society yet until recently, they weren't on the skilled list and they certainly wouldn't get a Global Talent visa -- so how do you think the powers-that-be would go, extending a visa to him?  what visa would it be?

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41 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

 

If that were true, everyone would get a visa. An ordinary policeman can contribute positively to Australia's society yet until recently, they weren't on the skilled list and they certainly wouldn't get a Global Talent visa -- so how do you think the powers-that-be would go, extending a visa to him?  what visa would it be?

I think that's like saying everyone who has a job gets paid fairly or everyone who deserves help gets it ... the best I can recommend is ask the Australian government why policemen/women are no longer on the list or why they aren't on the Global Talent hunt list. I can only speak for my personal experience and what may be possible. I know everyone has a difference visa experience and a lot of that has to do with timing... which is unfortunate. Especially when there are time limits placed on who's offered or allowed a visa.

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