Wanderer Returns Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) The annual rankings are in for the top-ten most liveable cities in the world, and - unsurprisingly - 4 are in Australia. How lucky we are! https://www.bbc.com/news/world-57412997 Edited June 14, 2021 by Wanderer Returns 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renebascossarabi Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 I wish I could go to Oz right now but its lockdown in the Philippines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavers Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Wanderer Returns said: The annual rankings are in for the top-ten most liveable cities in the world, and - unsurprisingly - 4 are in Australia. How lucky we are! https://www.bbc.com/news/world-57412997 And I live in number 3 🥳 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Flu Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 7 hours ago, Wanderer Returns said: The annual rankings are in for the top-ten most liveable cities in the world, and - unsurprisingly - 4 are in Australia. How lucky we are! https://www.bbc.com/news/world-57412997 This is due to corona virus lockdowns through out much of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavers Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Blue Flu said: This is due to corona virus lockdowns through out much of the world. That is correct, but the future will be very different from the past going forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, Blue Flu said: This is due to corona virus lockdowns through out much of the world. Yes a few years ago Melbourne was No 1, 3 years in a row, but have slipped back down to 8th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Plains Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) The ten least liveable cities in 2021 Damascus, Syria Lagos, Nigeria Port Moresby, PNG Dhaka, Bangladesh Algiers, Algeria Tripoli, Libya Karachi, Pakistan Harare, Zimbabwe Douala, Cameroon Caracas, Venezuela Port Moresby. Who would have thought? Edited June 14, 2021 by Dusty Plains 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Returns Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Parley said: Yes a few years ago Melbourne was No 1, 3 years in a row, but have slipped back down to 8th. 8th is more realistic when you consider the price of property - and the weather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Returns Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Lavers said: That is correct, but the future will be very different from the past going forward. I agree, and once the borders reopen there'll be a stampede to move here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Wanderer Returns said: 8th is more realistic when you consider the price of property - and the weather. Price of property, certainly. However, weather is SO subjective, it depends how you cope with heat and cold. I'd take Melbourne's weather over anywhere in Queensland any day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Returns Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Marisawright said: Price of property, certainly. However, weather is SO subjective, it depends how you cope with heat and cold. I'd take Melbourne's weather over anywhere in Queensland any day. Any day?? How about any day this week... or next? I think you'll find yourself in a very small minority if you don't like Queensland winters! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, Wanderer Returns said: Any day?? How about any day this week... or next? I think you'll find yourself in a very small minority if you don't like Queensland winters! You know perfectly well that’s not what I meant. If I had the luxury of homes in four or five different homes, I could pick the perfect home for each season. Most of us have to pick one place to live in all year round 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Flu Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 19 hours ago, Parley said: Yes a few years ago Melbourne was No 1, 3 years in a row, but have slipped back down to 8th. That was Mercer Survey from memory. Purely based on the cost's concerning business expats relocating. Little to do with everyday living features that would likely impact ordinary people. For example cost of housing not included. Most would stay in company rent paid houses. And so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Flu Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 15 hours ago, Wanderer Returns said: I agree, and once the borders reopen there'll be a stampede to move here! The price of over inflated property will put many off. Where would people live considering already a dire shortage of rentals. I agree the interest from abroad will most likely be substantial, but the reality will likely check over exuberance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Returns Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Blue Flu said: That was Mercer Survey from memory. Purely based on the cost's concerning business expats relocating. Little to do with everyday living features that would likely impact ordinary people. For example cost of housing not included. Most would stay in company rent paid houses. And so on. I've never heard of the Mercer Survey. The survey @Parley is referring to which ranked Melbourne #1 from 2011 to 2017 is the same one I provided the link for. It's produced by the Economist Intelligence Unit (the research division of the Economist), and ranks the quality of live of 140 global cities based on their stability, healthcare, culture, environment, education and infrastructure. Personally, I've never understood why Melbourne was ranked so highly, but then I admit to being biased by the weather (and an ex-girlfriend's family I didn't like very much). Melbourne clearly has a lot going for it, and is a very liveable city. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Liveability_Ranking#:~:text=The Global Liveability Ranking is,and environment%2C education and infrastructure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Flu Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Wanderer Returns said: I've never heard of the Mercer Survey. The survey @Parley is referring to which ranked Melbourne #1 from 2011 to 2017 is the same one I provided the link for. It's produced by the Economist Intelligence Unit (the research division of the Economist), and ranks the quality of live of 140 global cities based on their stability, healthcare, culture, environment, education and infrastructure. Personally, I've never understood why Melbourne was ranked so highly, but then I admit to being biased by the weather (and an ex-girlfriend's family I didn't like very much). Melbourne clearly has a lot going for it, and is a very liveable city. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Liveability_Ranking#:~:text=The Global Liveability Ranking is,and environment%2C education and infrastructure. The Mercer Survey is a yearly American published survey out every year. It indicates to companies, ratings of cities for expats and not so useful to those living in those cities. The last survey gave Vienna, Zurich, followed by Vancouver as the top three. Australian cities came in at Sydney 11th Melbourne 17th and Perth 21. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 On 15/06/2021 at 07:34, Wanderer Returns said: Any day?? How about any day this week... or next? I think you'll find yourself in a very small minority if you don't like Queensland winters! Some of us actually relish 4 seasons and the contrasts they bring: warm dry and warm/hot humid is just too boring. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 18 hours ago, Skani said: Some of us actually relish 4 seasons and the contrasts they bring: warm dry and warm/hot humid is just too boring. I certainly do and we get them in the Adelaide Hills. Having said that we usually fly North for warmth around Aug/Sept! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Returns Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 On 16/06/2021 at 14:37, Skani said: Some of us actually relish 4 seasons and the contrasts they bring: warm dry and warm/hot humid is just too boring. I'd argue that nowhere in Australia really experiences 4 seasons like we're used to in Europe. It's either summer or not summer. The 'not summer' period just lasts longer in the southern states, and is quite depressing. You can keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Wanderer Returns said: I'd argue that nowhere in Australia really experiences 4 seasons like we're used to in Europe. It's either summer or not summer. The 'not summer' period just lasts longer in the southern states, and is quite depressing. You can keep it. We are in autumn in Melbourne right now. Had a lovely sunny walk this morning. Spring in Melbourne is my oh's favourite time (he's had melanoma so he doesnt like high UV). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulya Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 12 hours ago, Wanderer Returns said: I'd argue that nowhere in Australia really experiences 4 seasons like we're used to in Europe. It's either summer or not summer. The 'not summer' period just lasts longer in the southern states, and is quite depressing. You can keep it. More nonsense. The ACT most certainly has 4 seasons as it did when I lived in South Oz many moons ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I agree 4 seasons here in the Adelaide Hills. Winter now, OK no snow but we do get frosty mornings and ice forms in puddles, spring is lovely with lots of green, flowers and blossom. Summer is hot,dry and grass is browner and Autumn is a glorious pallet of colour. lots of festivals and events to celebrate them too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Plains Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 On 18/06/2021 at 07:57, Bulya said: More nonsense. The ACT most certainly has 4 seasons as it did when I lived in South Oz many moons ago. I spent a year living in in Canberra, starting in February and setting up several temporary residences in apartments in Manuka and Kingston. Canberra had just been devastated by a very hot and fiery summer with bushfires coming into Canberra. Autumn was your typical Canberran cool climate with red autumn trees. Then winter set in. Coming from Sydney, the cold and the bleak and the chilly wind associated with Canberra were quite confronting. People told me that if you could survive a Canberra winter then you could live there forever. There was snow on the nearby Brindabella Ranges and that was quite apparent from anywhere in Canberra. Then Spring and the indoor restaurants with fireplaces in Kingston become alfresco dining (outdoors) in the warm morning sun. Does Canberra have distinct seasons? Absolutely, and that is part of its attraction to many. The climate there reminded me of certain similar cities in California where if its not snowing its possibly on fire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulya Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dusty Plains said: I spent a year living in in Canberra, starting in February and setting up several temporary residences in apartments in Manuka and Kingston. Canberra had just been devastated by a very hot and fiery summer with bushfires coming into Canberra. Autumn was your typical Canberran cool climate with red autumn trees. Then winter set in. Coming from Sydney, the cold and the bleak and the chilly wind associated with Canberra were quite confronting. People told me that if you could survive a Canberra winter then you could live there forever. There was snow on the nearby Brindabella Ranges and that was quite apparent from anywhere in Canberra. Then Spring and the indoor restaurants with fireplaces in Kingston become alfresco dining (outdoors) in the warm morning sun. Does Canberra have distinct seasons? Absolutely, and that is part of its attraction to many. The climate there reminded me of certain similar cities in California where if its not snowing its possibly on fire. Part of the reason why early last year north Canberra was the fastest growing area in the country. I’d prefer if people stayed away, the infrastructure is struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Returns Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dusty Plains said: I spent a year living in in Canberra, starting in February and setting up several temporary residences in apartments in Manuka and Kingston. Canberra had just been devastated by a very hot and fiery summer with bushfires coming into Canberra. Autumn was your typical Canberran cool climate with red autumn trees. Then winter set in. Coming from Sydney, the cold and the bleak and the chilly wind associated with Canberra were quite confronting. People told me that if you could survive a Canberra winter then you could live there forever. There was snow on the nearby Brindabella Ranges and that was quite apparent from anywhere in Canberra. Then Spring and the indoor restaurants with fireplaces in Kingston become alfresco dining (outdoors) in the warm morning sun. Does Canberra have distinct seasons? Absolutely, and that is part of its attraction to many. The climate there reminded me of certain similar cities in California where if its not snowing its possibly on fire. You're implying there's really only two seasons then. I appreciate that Canberra has a more varied climate than other Australian cities, but the seasons are nowhere near as pronounced as in Europe. There's hardly any native deciduous trees here in Australia, so how can one identify when autumn starts? In the major southern cities you can visit botanical gardens and parks where you can experience the fall, and other areas where they've been cultivated, but once you're out in the bush the landscape pretty much all looks the same, regardless of the time of year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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