.......yes...!

[Guest241083]

      The result of the historic same-sex marriage survey has been announced.Australians have voted in favour of changing the law to allow same-sex marriage.

[ssiri]

Not before time. I had every faith in the Australian people and how they represent their fair-go and equality values. Now the real work (getting elected representatives to do their job). The people have spoken (resoundingly). [emoji304]?️‍[emoji304]

[tea4too]

Well said Australia. T x

[HibiscusDreams]

YESSSSSSSSSS! Chatting to my g/f now about it.... Or to be accurate right now, my fiancee

[ssiri]

Curiously the same sex vote thread on CTF as far as I can tell, seems to have disappeared. Wonder why.[emoji848]

 

[Gbye grey sky]

Good news.  Now watch opponents try for as many exemptions in the final bill as possible.

[calNgary]

20 minutes ago, ssiri said:

Curiously the same sex vote thread on CTF as far as I can tell, seems to have disappeared. Wonder why.

 

None have been removed, could it be one of these you were thinking about 

 

 

[ssiri]

Good news.  Now watch opponents try for as many exemptions in the final bill as possible.

For sure, but they are now properly a minority, and any politician now has a 'legitimate' public mandate to do the right thing (in their political eyes).

As we know with Brexit, even with only 52% of the vote, crossing the public (who have spoken), is not a good idea, come Election Day. Even Abbots constituency resoundingly voted yes- the irony.

[ssiri]

None have been removed, could it be one of these you were thinking about 
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No neither of those. It was called same sex vote or same sex marriage or similar.

[Gbye grey sky]

5 minutes ago, ssiri said:

 

For sure, but they are now properly a minority, and any politician now has a 'legitimate' public mandate to do the right thing (in their political eyes).

As we know with Brexit, even with only 52% of the vote, crossing the public (who have spoken), is not a good idea, come Election Day. Even Abbots constituency resoundingly voted yes- the irony.

 

Not only Abbots constituents, his whole bloody family by the looks of things.

[Bound4Tassie]

Good news. We all knew Aussies would do the decent thing!

[Mike@Bonbeach]

3 hours ago, Bound4Tassie said:

Good news. We all knew Aussies would do the decent thing!

All except the ALP, Greens and several other interested parties who tried to stop the vote, even appealing to the High Court. They couldn't trust the Australian plebs to do the right thing.

[Skani]

6 minutes ago, Mike and Connie said:

All except the ALP, Greens and several other interested parties who tried to stop the vote, even appealing to the High Court. They couldn't trust the Australian plebs to do the right thing.

It was nothing to do with not trusting the plebs.  It had everything to do with politicians being voted in and paid enormous salaries to make these decisions - and this was abrogated only  because Turnbull didn't have the spine to deal with the divisions in his parliamentary party.

[ssiri]

It was nothing to do with not trusting the plebs.  It had everything to do with politicians being voted in and paid enormous salaries to make these decisions - and this was abrogated only  because Turnbull didn't have the spine to deal with the divisions in his parliamentary party.

Absolutely. Spineless and other parts missing, come to mind. But here we are now. I hope their spines and other missing parts of anatomy get found, as the Dean Smith bill goes through the Houses.

[HibiscusDreams]

On 15/11/2017 at 22:35, Skani said:

It was nothing to do with not trusting the plebs.  It had everything to do with politicians being voted in and paid enormous salaries to make these decisions - and this was abrogated only  because Turnbull didn't have the spine to deal with the divisions in his parliamentary party.

Also because everyone *knew* that the No campaign were going to go for peak bigotry and it would be a brutal campaign of dirty tricks and smears. Greens and Labor wanted to avoid it. Turnbull too, but he was and still is always more afraid for his political survival than he was for looking out for his own people. In some ways he is worse than Abbott because he *knows* what he does is wrong... Abbott seems to actually believe his own BS most of the time.

[Parley]

1 hour ago, HibiscusDreams said:

Also because everyone *knew* that the No campaign were going to go for peak bigotry and it would be a brutal campaign of dirty tricks and smears. Greens and Labor wanted to avoid it. Turnbull too, but he was and still is always more afraid for his political survival than he was for looking out for his own people. In some ways he is worse than Abbott because he *knows* what he does is wrong... Abbott seems to actually believe his own BS most of the time.

Well that certainly wasn't true. The peak bigotry and bullying all came from the Yes campaign.

But mostly it seemed a very civilised campaign to me and most people.

And all the polling before hand said the majority of people wanted a plebiscite on the issue. This at least gives the outcome some legitimacy. I would never have accepted it if it hadn't been through this democratic approach.

It is much better handled than being sneaked in as happened in the UK, when it wasn't even in the political manifesto before the election.

Edited November 17, 2017 by Parley

[Toots]

2 hours ago, HibiscusDreams said:

Also because everyone *knew* that the No campaign were going to go for peak bigotry and it would be a brutal campaign of dirty tricks and smears. Greens and Labor wanted to avoid it. Turnbull too, but he was and still is always more afraid for his political survival than he was for looking out for his own people. In some ways he is worse than Abbott because he *knows* what he does is wrong... Abbott seems to actually believe his own BS most of the time.

I agree with you about Turnbull and Abbott but I found the Yes campaigners were far more in your face than the No people.  I think 99% of people were capable of making up their own minds without all the tactics from the Yes and No people.