Zatara80 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hi Everyone, My husband has just passed the final stages of securing a job with the Department of Victoria as a Senior Practitioner Child Protection Social Worker, there is a very generous Relocation Package on offer for him and our family, however, the only thing that is slightly concerning me is the 457 Visa. As non residents, we will as I understand from researching have to pay about $5100 AUD/child for school fees (we will have 2 children) and no access to nursery fee rebates (1 child). McArtur agency has now offered to help me (the spouse) find work in a criminal justice field (I have 10 years working with the police and a Criminology degree) in order to help alleviate some of the worries of not being able to secure work on a 457 Visa. We are a family of 5 and husband will be earning $89000 AUD with the possibility of upgrading his job title and earn in the region of $109000 AUD, this might sound much (or not) but don't feel much if you take into consideration the cost associated as a non resident with three young children. Therefore it would be paramount for me to secure work ASAP in order for us to survive until we can secure permanent residency. My understanding is that we will have to wait 2 years whilst working in Australia (my husband at least) before we qualify to apply for permanent residency, but I am wondering if there is a better way once we are out there to apply for permanent residency straight away? We just got an offer on our house so could afford to finance the Visa once the house is sold but it seems there will be a lot of financial sacrifices for the first three years that we arrive in Melbourne, Australia. I am not even sure we are making the right decision but with Brexit looming, I do not think anything else could be much worse than to watch the UK crumbling into an absolute abyss. Any advice and tips would be greatly appreciated, in order to make our move to Australia both financially and emotionally less stressful. Many Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) In Victoria you don't have to pay fees for school age kids - other than the fees which everyone pays - on a temporary visa. Unless, of course you are posted up to Wodonga but choose to use an Albury school (which is NSW). But you are correct, you will get no help for preschool fees (c$120 per day these days). There is, however, no guarantee that Vic won't introduce fees at some point like many other states. Another factor to consider is that dependents of temporary visa holders often struggle to get meaningful work especially in career type fields. The sort of agency you are likely to want to work for is more likely to want permanent residence at least. The agency may promise you the earth but not necessarily be able to deliver especially into any public service type role. I think social workers are on the list for permanent residence so there is nothing stopping you from going for PR and avoiding the 457 altogether especially as you would apparently need to put all your eggs in the basket with selling your house etc. If you could do it without burning any bridges - take a career break, rent out your house - then it might be worth an adventure. British CP workers have reported very "behind the times" practices and a reluctance to move on and there is a huge turn over with CP workers. Brexit might provide amazing opportunities, you never know! Andrews' Victoria isn't looking that flash either. Edited July 24, 2017 by Quoll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJD Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 You wouldn't necessarily have to wait 3 years for transition to PR under the proposed visa changes. You could agree with your husband's employer to sponsor him for the direct entry stream of the 186 visa once you're on the ground. There'd obviously be a cost for this early in your stay, but would get you all on PR sooner I would have thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collie Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 HI Zatara, A couple of things, a 457 visa is a temporary visa. As said above, if the option is there for a sponsored PR visa (186), go for that and skip the 457 altogether. There is no guarantee that the 457 will lead to PR. 2nd thing is salary. Where in Victoria are you moving to? $89k for a family of 5 would be quite tight IMO. Does this include/exclude super? What are the other parts of the package? Have a look at domain.com.au to get a feel for housing costs which will be your biggest expense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth 666 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 We are a family of 4 and I was on around $76k, with a 'promise' of a raise to $83k after a probation period. (This period passed, I was taken on full time but the raise was delayed for a further 3 months while they got performances figures to compare..I left before the next BS excuse) We were getting around $600 per fortnight in Centrelink family benefit and rent assistance, your 3rd child might give you a higher figure but I'm not sure how that works on a temp visa. With all this added up we were just about getting by and only running one car. OH wanted to work but without a specific skill set she found getting onto the work ladder very hard. We had the usual school fees like books, subject add-ons etc that I think everyone pays in the state school system. The only time you'll pay extra is if you want to go into the private schools sector but that's stupid money IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collie Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, Collie said: $89k for a family of 5 would be quite tight IMO. Sorry, meant to say in Melbourne where housing costs are high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatara80 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hi All, Thank you for your replies. The Relocation package is sponsored by the Department of Victoria for overseas Social Workers, McArthur the recruitment agency deals with the vetting procedures etc... He will be employed as an Advanced Child Protection Practitioner in Melbourne (hopefully Footscray office) with a salary of $89,375 Plus Superannuation, they are sadly only offering the relocation package as part of the 457 Visa. With his qualifications and experience, he could also accept the Child Protection Practice Leader vacancy with a salary of $109,969 (however, he feels that he want to get to know the CP role in Australia before taking on more responsibilities). The Relocation Package includes: Full 457 Visa Sponsorship (4 years) for staff member, spouse and dependent children. Relocation Assistance - $7000 (Staff member, spouse and three children). One-Way economy airfare for each family member relocating in accordance with their 457 Visa. Staff member may claim the cost of up to 1 months temporary accommodation upon arrival in Victoria. The department offers assistance through settlement services. Removal and Shipping Costs Staff member can claim the costs of an Australian working visa, accreditation for the Australian Community Workers Association and the Australian Association of Social Workers and relevant international police checks. Airport pick up for staff member and their family. Welcome pack - children given an Australian cuddly toy. First night's accommodation provided in a central location. Housing assistance - support helping staff to find suitable accommodation, visiting properties on their behalf, being a housing referee to verify salaries. Assisting staff to apply for bank account and a tax file number before staff leaves their home country. Linking staff to a migration agent (staff member will pay for this) Linking the staff member with a buddy support group. Health insurance cover information provided to the staff member. The reason I mentioned school fees are because I came across this article: https://www.tssimmigration.com.au/migration-news/blog/457-visa-holders-to-pay-school-fees-in-south-australia-in-2017 We are not planning to live in the CBD but have been looking at Caroline Springs, Melton and we are expecting to find a house to rent up to $500/week, no council tax I understand as this is the Landlords responsibility but obviously we will have the usual utility bills. We don't mind doing some commuting as this has been the standard here in the UK. We are hoping to eventually buy a house but not until we get PR. Fully aware that Australia is more expensive in some aspect but very grateful Aldi and Coles exist together with outdoor markets, I am also a fan of Ebay and Groupon, LOL so bargains can be had, just have to look in the right area!!! McArthur, which deals with the main aspect of the relocation assistance are also there to help spouses settle in so although I am very grateful that they have offered to assist me in finding work through their agency, I am also realistic that I might not have the job before we relocate. Guess we just have to live frugal! We so want to make this work as I have read some nightmare stories from Expats leaving but everyone's journey in life is different and sometimes you have to take risks or you will never know. It really is Now or Never as husband is 41 (43-44 when we eventually qualify for PR under direct stream). Don't know how long this process will take but regardless - Here we come Melbourne! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melb2016 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 The relocation package sounds ok and should certainly help. The $7k assistance sounds like help towards buying a car. Note cars in Australia are much more expensive here, budget for around $10k for a decent small run-around Ford Fiesta, Suzuki swift etc). $89k is a good salary. However, supporting a family of 5 on that would be a stretch. Agree that your focus should be to secure employment for yourself. 457 visa spouses can find it stressful to find employment as a lot of the non-minimum wage jobs look for more permanent residency status (Au national etc). Check if any such requirement exists to work in the criminal justice field. For my wife it took 6 weeks (different sector to you). Rent would be your biggest expense. As has been mentioned check the domain.com website and work out where you want to live etc. Short-term let's can be expensive. Sorting long-term accomodation within a month of landing will require you to be pretty organised, do all your respect into areas prior to arriving.Sent from my iPhone using PomsinOz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccusken Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hi Zatara80,I am currently looking at the same package and areas and am also a family of five. I am however trying to complete my visa personally for PR and have told the agency this also ( not Mcarther).What part of the process are you at?Sent from my SM-G950F using PomsinOz mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatara80 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) Hi, My husband passed his interview and has sent through his references now, guess it is the visa application next but not sure. the stages passed so far: Application Video recording interview Psychometric testing Three panel live Skype interview What agency did you go with and do they offer the same relocation package on the PR visa? McArthur told us the relocation package is only part of the 457 visa. What subclass PR visa are you applying for? Edited July 24, 2017 by Zatara80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccusken Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Well since speaking to the agency and explaining where I was at and saying I am applying for PR (189) they said it was ok?? And I asked if I could still get the package although this may not be correct now. Ok have to check with them but I haven't had my interview yet. They said this would be scheduled for some time in the next two months. I was already in the process and have sent off my AASW already so the job just came up at a good time although looking at the new waiting times it does not look like we will get out this year Sent from my SM-G950F using PomsinOz mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatara80 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 My husband only started the process three weeks ago and it's gone very quick so far, read somewhere that if you are being sponsored by the Department of Victoria, you get fast tracked and waiting times not as long, we will just have to wait and see I guess! Did you say you went with another agency than McArthur? Fingers crossed for you that all goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccusken Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Does he need to complete a migration skills assessment for the temp 457 visa?Sent from my SM-G950F using PomsinOz mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatara80 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 No your UK qualification is sufficient together with your work experience, it's actually the easiest and quickest way to go but it's not entirely fool proof as you will find out, especially when you will have to travel with a young family. It will be quite costly with school fees and the uncertainty of not knowing if your partner can secure work on a 457 visa as most employers would prioritise PR. Working for the Department of Victoria would however give you quite an advantage as you could discuss sponsorship after two years on the 457 Visa, but don't expect PR for another 12 months the least and it is also no guarantee of PR. We are taking a Risk, hoping we will come out on the other side jubilant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTowers Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 14 hours ago, Zatara80 said: Hi Everyone, My husband has just passed the final stages of securing a job with the Department of Victoria as a Senior Practitioner Child Protection Social Worker, there is a very generous Relocation Package on offer for him and our family, however, the only thing that is slightly concerning me is the 457 Visa. As non residents, we will as I understand from researching have to pay about $5100 AUD/child for school fees (we will have 2 children) and no access to nursery fee rebates (1 child). McArtur agency has now offered to help me (the spouse) find work in a criminal justice field (I have 10 years working with the police and a Criminology degree) in order to help alleviate some of the worries of not being able to secure work on a 457 Visa. We are a family of 5 and husband will be earning $89000 AUD with the possibility of upgrading his job title and earn in the region of $109000 AUD, this might sound much (or not) but don't feel much if you take into consideration the cost associated as a non resident with three young children. Therefore it would be paramount for me to secure work ASAP in order for us to survive until we can secure permanent residency. My understanding is that we will have to wait 2 years whilst working in Australia (my husband at least) before we qualify to apply for permanent residency, but I am wondering if there is a better way once we are out there to apply for permanent residency straight away? We just got an offer on our house so could afford to finance the Visa once the house is sold but it seems there will be a lot of financial sacrifices for the first three years that we arrive in Melbourne, Australia. I am not even sure we are making the right decision but with Brexit looming, I do not think anything else could be much worse than to watch the UK crumbling into an absolute abyss. Any advice and tips would be greatly appreciated, in order to make our move to Australia both financially and emotionally less stressful. Many Thanks! Hey there, Sounds like an exciting time for you but as a previous 457 visa holder I would strongly recommend not selling your house if you do not need to - Can you rent it out? You know the 457 is temporary so will not harp on about that as you have done your research but what if you do not get PR? What if your husband gets made redundant and cant get another sponsor??? I speak from experience, we came over 6+ years ago on my husbands 457 and within months they told him he was being made redundant. The only saving grace was that it was not immediate and he had 6 months to help them transition the department overseas and then would need to leave - he also was offered a golden carrot for staying the 6 months so we stuck it out and in the last couple of months he started looking for a new sponsor - If he didn't get one we had 28 days to leave! Thankfully the company I worked for (defacto 457) agreed to sponsor me for my own 457 so we did that and I became the main visa holder and husband the defacto - We were saved! YAY...................... nearly 2 years went by and I was about to speak to my company about PR sponsorship via the pathway (had to be on the 457 for 2 years in the same job/company) and guess what.... I was made redundant!!!! Thankfully the rules had changed and we have 3 months to find another sponsor or go back to the UK. My husband had been with this employer on the defacto 457 for 2 years since his last redundancy and spoke to them about being sponsored for a 457 - and guess what they sponsored us ........... Are you keeping up? We were 3 years in and on our 3rd 457, but the clock for PR started again as it was a new 457/applicant /company.... it meant we could not apply for PR for another 2 years and had no idea if the company would even sponsor us for PR after that time. We decided this was our last shot, we loved living here in Sydney but it was too stressful and the uncertainty was awful - We knew the pitfalls, we knew it was not permanent SO we rented out our UK house, put our furniture in the attic and shed locked away from tenants and put our car in storage - IF it all failed in OZ we have EVERYTHING to go back to albeit jobs. I would never come out here on a temporary visa and selling up - there is too much risk but most people think it wont happen to them - we thought it would not happen to us but it did and were were covered if we had to leave. Anyhoo..... that's my 457 story but there was a silver lining - After 2 years on his 457 visa my husbands company sponsored us - We got our PR!!!! We have since sold our UK house and have our own piece of Sydney real estate - Loving life right now! So not only do we have the experience in the pitfalls of the 457, we are also a success story in gaining PR from a 457 albeit with a bit of stress along the way! By keeping the UK house and all our possessions it made the stress easier knowing we had it all to go back to. If you can rent it out I would strongly recommend it as security especially with children, but I know some people can't due to personal circumstances. All the best and enjoy your journey!!!!!! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I agree with DeeTowers - don't sell your house and don't quit your jobs, take career breaks. Temporary visas with large families are very risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 As others are pointing out, it is vital you treat this for what it is - a temporary move to Australia for up to 4 years. You may later get a permanent visa, but you may not and until you do, you have to assume you will be returning to the UK. Just because you qualify today for a PR visa, doesn't mean you will tomorrow. There have already been massive changes to the system this year, which were a total surprise - to the extent the department are issuing refunds to people who are no longer eligible for visas which they had applied for. We know there are a huge amount more changes to come. Don't sell your house as a minimum. Don't forget, in cases such as redundancy of the main visa holder, he would only have 3 months to find another sponsor or you all have to leave. In such circumstances, there isn't usually any help returning other than the employer is required to pay flights. Finding yourselves in Heathrow with only a suitcase each and no where to live or any possessions isn't fun. I know as that is the position we found ourselves in last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatara80 Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 Thanks All for sharing your experiences and advice, Were your partners on full relocation packages sponsored by the Department of Victoria as Social Workers when you faced difficulties with the 457 Visa? We were planning on selling up regardless as we were looking to relocate in the Midlands from Essex (Plan B if all fails with Australia), with they idea of renting for some time before buying another house as easier, so the house sale was inevitable. The housing market in the UK is somewhat wobbly at the moment so our thought was sell up quickly before Brexit...save our deposit for the future and use the rest of our equity for our relocation and expenses until first salaries. My husband is in a fortunate situation as a Social Worker as his job is in high demand both in the UK and overseas, getting a job as a locum Social worker (better pay) in the UK would not take long and with strong contacts in different Social Work Departments around different counties is also a positive so we are not worried in that aspect (he is currently working locum and has for the past 3 years and he keeps getting inundated with job offers on a regular basis even though he is in full time employment, in fact some Departments have fought over him in order to have him working on their teams). I doubt we would be 'standing at the Airport with a suitcase not knowing where to go' should we ever have to leave Australia, in that sense we are fortunate to have family and friends who would gladly assist until rental accommodation could be sorted out or plan B, we also own property in another country so we would never be homeless. Having Researched Child Protection jobs in Australia, especially in Melbourne, there is a huge gap in the market to fill and we are aware that job markets change and that might not be the situation in the future but I cannot see that CP Social Work jobs would be scarce anytime soon with so many Social Workers leaving the field. My husband has 4 years work experience and an acquaintance of his who currently work as a Social Worker in Melbourne is of the opinion that Social Work is so much easier in Australia than the UK, sure it is different but as he put it: 'you won't regret coming here as a Social Worker.' Being employed by the Department Of Victoria is another advantage IMO, keen on providing sponsorship and generous relocation packages to then say Bye Bye wouldn't seem logical, especially as they are investing their time and finances on you. The 457 Visa isn't the greatest, I agree on that point but it gives you four years with the opportunity to reapply for another four years. Yes come March 2018 this Visa changes to TSS but your 457 Visa will still be valid for the remaining time after that date if your Visa had been issued already (Info from Australian Border Agency). So if you have a 457 Visa with four years stay, after two years if your employer is happy with your work standards, you can have them sponsor you on a PR, which take about 1 year to process, leaving you with another year until Visa expires. You would in practice have your PR before the 457 Visa expires should they Sponsor you. My opinion only but as an Overseas Social Worker on full relocation package (or other work areas with full sponsorship and relocation packages) I feel you have a better chance to be sponsored for PR. For any Social Workers out there...Stay Positive, realistic and do your research...enjoy the journey and life time experience this may bring to you and your family and who knows maybe we will see you Down Under...I sure will keep you updated on this thread of our journey ahead! Good Luck All! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collie Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Sounds like your minds are mind up so good luck. A couple of extra things about 457s and PR for you to be aware of. With the recent changes to all visas the age threshold for PR is 45 so keep this in mind when transitioning, get your application in before he gets close to that threshold. Also, a new one regarding property, if you buy a place on a 457, you no longer get the PPR exemption from Capital Gains tax so would be eligible to pay tax on any capital gain when you sold. Not an issue if you are going to rent or delay buying until you have PR. The relocation package sounds good (although a higher salary would be better) and I think a govt dept will be more likely to play by the rules and not screw you over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 You seem pretty determined, but I will just reiterate that there is no certainty on gaining PR down the track. A huge amount can change in that time and probably will. The 457 is a very hot potato in Australia and has been for some time with a lot of the unions calling for temporary visas to be banned all together. If you look at just the changes this year so far: Age limits reduced on most PR visas from 50 to 45. Over 200 occupations removed from the lists. The lists themselves being changed from SOL and CSOL The announcement of the end of the 457 Big changes in moving from a 457 to PR. Citizenship requirement changed from 1 year with PR to 4 years. That is just the changes that were not expected or had pre warning this year. Oh and some of them were retrospective and more may be - wont know until March. Then, late last year, the government announced the end of Cat 5. These were PR skilled visas which had very long processing times. Many of them had completed their applications years ago and were living in Oz on bridging visas. The government abolished even the current ones and people had to leave. As for a body paying out lots of money and then making redundancies, that is not unusual. I moved to Oz in 2008 after being headhunted by a large company. We moved in the may with a relocation package - put us in a very good hotel in Sydney and even picked up the bar bill. I went to work for 2 weeks, came home to a phone call to say I was facing redundancy. So, the point is, you have to assume you are only going to Oz temporary until the day you have a PR visa in your hand. That means you need to plan accordingly for such things as childrens education - children who return to the UK and want to go to university have to be resident for 3 years or are treated as international students - VERY large costs and no government help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottieGirl Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 If you are on a 457 you need FIRB approval to buy property which is a pain in the proverbial and quite expensive I believe. I would also consider renting your house. If it takes you several years to get PR the UK housing market could have changed considerably by then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatara80 Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 Thanks Collie, We think so too, I have been doing a lot of research lately and I came across these two points, hubby will be within the age range when we eventually qualify to apply and we have decided we won't buy until we have PR, sounds like the most sensible thing to do. We just have to keep informed of the latest migration updates and changes to 457 visa, I am currently getting help from McArthur to find work so hopefully we will both be in work when we relocate or some weeks/months after??? Hopefully that will give us two opportunities for PR but need to check the skills list for my occupational background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatara80 Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 Thanks again, Been reading up on everyone's stories so far and appreciate all the information. We won't loose anything by going except a little bit of inconvenience should we have to leave Australia, we are treating it as a once in a life time work/extended holiday experience, we are cautious and will keep up to date with any changes and seek necessary advice should we need to. Would be really nice to hear from any UK Social Workers who have relocated on this VISA and get a feel of how your experience has been so far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcguinnessp1968 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 You seem pretty determined, but I will just reiterate that there is no certainty on gaining PR down the track. A huge amount can change in that time and probably will. The 457 is a very hot potato in Australia and has been for some time with a lot of the unions calling for temporary visas to be banned all together. If you look at just the changes this year so far: Age limits reduced on most PR visas from 50 to 45. Over 200 occupations removed from the lists. The lists themselves being changed from SOL and CSOL The announcement of the end of the 457 Big changes in moving from a 457 to PR. Citizenship requirement changed from 1 year with PR to 4 years. That is just the changes that were not expected or had pre warning this year. Oh and some of them were retrospective and more may be - wont know until March. Then, late last year, the government announced the end of Cat 5. These were PR skilled visas which had very long processing times. Many of them had completed their applications years ago and were living in Oz on bridging visas. The government abolished even the current ones and people had to leave. As for a body paying out lots of money and then making redundancies, that is not unusual. I moved to Oz in 2008 after being headhunted by a large company. We moved in the may with a relocation package - put us in a very good hotel in Sydney and even picked up the bar bill. I went to work for 2 weeks, came home to a phone call to say I was facing redundancy. So, the point is, you have to assume you are only going to Oz temporary until the day you have a PR visa in your hand. That means you need to plan accordingly for such things as childrens education - children who return to the UK and want to go to university have to be resident for 3 years or are treated as international students - VERY large costs and no government helpThat's quite a story, so how long were you in Australia for? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTowers Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 10 hours ago, Zatara80 said: Thanks again, Been reading up on everyone's stories so far and appreciate all the information. We won't loose anything by going except a little bit of inconvenience should we have to leave Australia, we are treating it as a once in a life time work/extended holiday experience, we are cautious and will keep up to date with any changes and seek necessary advice should we need to. Would be really nice to hear from any UK Social Workers who have relocated on this VISA and get a feel of how your experience has been so far. Sounds like you have your head switched on and have done your research etc.... exactly what we did! We treated it as a temporary experience but I won't lie, the longer you are here and the more settled you are it's hard to face going back if you have no other choice - we were close to it twice! We have not paid for any of our visas and still had 2 redundancies - when we moved here with the first visa we too had a full relocation package so came here with the clothes on our back (and several suitcases), no furniture or anything as we used the package for rent, car, furniture etc.... my husband was only a few months in when he got the redundancy news so it doesn't matter how much a company has paid for you, if they don't want you or it's cheaper to offshore your job then they will do it regardless. All the best and I hope it all works out for you - enjoy the adventure!! :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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