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[Ozdream1]

What's your Occupation?


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Public relations professional...

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7 minutes ago, Praveen Reddy said:

What's your Occupation?


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Don't worry guys 

I am waiting from 2015 

one day it will happen 

[Nikki]

1 hour ago, Ozdream1 said:

They have opened 80% of the December applications...
Except mine...☹️
This wait is very painful...

Me too!! How annoying!! (I haven't put my details on the spreadsheet) ?. I applied on the 21st of Dec - 457 transition to 186. At least you know you're not the only one!!?

[mjay]

They have opened 80% of the December applications...
Except mine...☹️
This wait is very painful...[emoji36][emoji20]

I am one of the 80% of the December applications not yet opened.. waiting is driving me mad [emoji36]


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[Yvi]

I'm still waiting from beginning of November and call Immi almost every week for an update but nothing! It is and always will be a random allocation process.

[jess6]

3 hours ago, Praveen Reddy said:

According to my analysis, applications are given less priority if the base salary is less than AUD75,000.

Do you fall under this category?

Not sure, my salary is way over that and still no news after almost a year wait. 

I personally think it's all about the occupations. If you are a nurse or a school teacher, it's fast. If you are in Business or Marketing, it's as slow as possible.

[Ozdream1]

Not sure, my salary is way over that and still no news after almost a year wait. 
I personally think it's all about the occupations. If you are a nurse or a school teacher, it's fast. If you are in Business or Marketing, it's as slow as possible.

I don't think it's only about the occupation... if you look at the spreadsheet some guys got their visas granted recently although they were marketing specialist, advertising specialist etc...

[Ozdream1]

Me too!! How annoying!! (I haven't put my details on the spreadsheet) [emoji53]. I applied on the 21st of Dec - 457 transition to 186. At least you know you're not the only one!![emoji4]

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What's your occupation? [emoji5]

[jess6]

25 minutes ago, Ozdream1 said:

 

I don't think it's only about the occupation... if you look at the spreadsheet some guys got their visas granted recently although they were marketing specialist, advertising specialist etc...

 

Not if they were Direct Entry - I was like you 6 months ago - I could not believe I would wait over a year considering my sponsor and my profile.

Then I realised that immigration was slowing down on Direct Entry visas, especially those occupations with caveats. 

Our MA thinks that the visa will get processed any time now - so fingers crossed.

Edited June 13, 2017 by jess6

[Nikki]

2 hours ago, Ozdream1 said:

 

What's your occupation?

 

@Ozdream1 the application has gone under my husband who is a bricklayer 

[AMP-ens186]

Looks like they have extended Visa processing times. Last updated 14th June by IMMI.  The one that's been extended considerably is the 90% of allocations.  For DE last month it was 10 months.  Now it is 13 months!!!  Basically they bought themselves further time as the majority of applications will fall into this extended void!. This will mean for a lot of people like me that i will possibly need to obtain new police checks and possibly health examinations.  

Processing time

Processing time

Stream                                                        75 per cent of applications processed    90 per cent of applications processed
Temporary Residence Transition stream                          8 months                                           9 months
Direct Entry stream                                                           9 months                                           13 months
Agreement stream                                                            9 months                                           13 months

Last updated 14 June 2017 (for month ending 31 May 2017)

 

[Ozdream1]

Looks like they have extended Visa processing times. Last updated 14th June by IMMI.  The one that's been extended considerably is the 90% of allocations.  For DE last month it was 10 months.  Now it is 13 months!!!  Basically they bought themselves further time as the majority of applications will fall into this extended void!. This will mean for a lot of people like me that i will possibly need to obtain new police checks and possibly health examinations.  

Processing time

Processing time
Stream                                                        75 per cent of applications processed    90 per cent of applications processed
Temporary Residence Transition stream                          8 months                                           9 months
Direct Entry stream                                                           9 months                                           13 months
Agreement stream                                                            9 months                                           13 months

Last updated 14 June 2017 (for month ending 31 May 2017)
 

This is not fair for the DE applicants who applied onshore.
Some people applied under the transition stream just because they got a negative assessment but their applications are prioritised...[emoji5]
Ok... this process is driving me nuts....

[AMP-ens186]

7 minutes ago, Ozdream1 said:

 

This is not fair for the DE applicants who applied onshore.
Some people applied under the transition stream just because they got a negative assessment but their applications are prioritised...
Ok... this process is driving me nuts....

 

Agree OZ,  I am a On shore DE applicant as well, i lodged both nomination and visa on 18th October, 2016. I have emailed my MA (Fragomen) for further clarification on police checks and health examinations if my application is not processed within 12 months.  I will post the reply here. 

[jess6]

2 hours ago, Ozdream1 said:

 

This is not fair for the DE applicants who applied onshore.
Some people applied under the transition stream just because they got a negative assessment but their applications are prioritised...
Ok... this process is driving me nuts....

 

I Agree. This is appalling. I am so over this process, this is just dodgy.

Honestly if a year ago I would have been told that this whole PR process would be so painful and unfair, that I would be in limbo during over 5 months with no rights to travel freely, I would have moved back to Europe where my conditions of life and career opportunities are way better than here.

[jess6]

I wanted to give a little update for those who are on BVA (Bridging Visa A) or might get transitioned soon. This is what was stressing me the most during the last 5 months.

I just got granted a Bridging Visa B and it took just 24 hours.

The department has been quite generous as it starts now and extends until September. This makes a huge difference for me, my family and my employer.

I hope to see my PR approved soon despite the new timelines as I feel quite drained emotionally by the whole thing. 

[186Life]

8 minutes ago, jess6 said:

I wanted to give a little update for those who are on BVA (Bridging Visa A) or might get transitioned soon. This is what was stressing me the most during the last 5 months.

I just got granted a Bridging Visa B and it took just 24 hours.

The department has been quite generous as it starts now and extends until September. This makes a huge difference for me, my family and my employer.

I hope to see my PR approved soon despite the new timelines as I feel quite drained emotionally by the whole thing. 

Good to hear... 

I'll wait until second  week of July before apply for BVB. 

457 Expires: 13/08

Travel Booked: 02/08 ~ 19/09

186 PR applied: 12/05/16

How was your situation ?! 

 

[jess6]

9 minutes ago, 186Life said:

Good to hear... 

I'll wait until second  week of July before apply for BVB. 

457 Expires: 13/08

Travel Booked: 02/08 ~ 19/09

186 PR applied: 12/05/16

How was your situation ?! 

 

Basically I needed to travel for work so our Agent submitted the application for us and as I needed to travel for personal reasons later on, they were kind enough to extend the BVB.

It gives me hope again about the process as I have been feeling quite low during the last two months. 

[MaggieMay24]

BVBs are fairly easy to get for anyone who needs/wants to travel overseas while waiting for their visa to be processed.

I don't think there's anything dodgy about the situation, DIBP has had cut-backs in staff over the past 6-18 months so it means they are trying to process a higher quantity of applications with fewer staff.  And they're also needing to make more scrutiny of applications to avoid fraudulent applications, ensure they aren't letting potential terrorists into the country, etc.  So of course this impacts on processing times.  I'm not sure how they determine the priority of processing, but since TRT applicants are of course already working for an Australian employer, they would likely be considered higher priority than DE applicants who may not even be in Australia.

It's a frustrating process that takes a great deal of patience, but hopefully you will all consider it worth it in the end.

[luc]

BVBs are fairly easy to get for anyone who needs/wants to travel overseas while waiting for their visa to be processed.
I don't think there's anything dodgy about the situation, DIBP has had cut-backs in staff over the past 6-18 months so it means they are trying to process a higher quantity of applications with fewer staff.  And they're also needing to make more scrutiny of applications to avoid fraudulent applications, ensure they aren't letting potential terrorists into the country, etc.  So of course this impacts on processing times.  I'm not sure how they determine the priority of processing, but since TRT applicants are of course already working for an Australian employer, they would likely be considered higher priority than DE applicants who may not even be in Australia.
It's a frustrating process that takes a great deal of patience, but hopefully you will all consider it worth it in the end.

My MA strongly recommend me not to travel while waiting for the DIPB decision. He said if the application is refused while I'm overseas I lose the option to go for AAT appeal. Do you think it's risky to travel before the decision is made? Thanks


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[Yvi]

5 minutes ago, luc said:

My MA strongly recommend me not to travel while waiting for the DIPB decision. He said if the application is refused while I'm overseas I lose the option to go for AAT appeal. Do you think it's risky to travel before the decision is made? Thanks


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My MA said exactly the same. It is too risky. If anything goes wrong while being overseas the immigration department may not allow you to enter the country again, not even to pick up your private things. Also, you may have to re-do the medical and police clearance once you go overseas depending where you travel to. It is not worth it risking your PR. 

[JonnyP]

Hey guys, I need some advice on this:

How do you deal in a situation where your direct manager and the N+2 manager agree to support you for PR under 186 direct entry stream, but the HR department people is saying the business is not in a position to sponsor the staff for permanent residency?

My guess is that this does not directly depends on HR but if the business unit or function in the organisation is willing to support a staff for PR, they simply should do it, or am i wrong?

Thanks. 

[Matt_Z]

1 hour ago, JonnyP said:

Hey guys, I need some advice on this:

How do you deal in a situation where your direct manager and the N+2 manager agree to support you for PR under 186 direct entry stream, but the HR department people is saying the business is not in a position to sponsor the staff for permanent residency?

My guess is that this does not directly depends on HR but if the business unit or function in the organisation is willing to support a staff for PR, they simply should do it, or am i wrong?

Thanks. 

Maybe the HR department is aware of the sponsorship requirements (training benchmarks etc.) and they know that your company wouldn`t be able to get the sponsor status?

That`s the only legitimate reason I can think about. But still, that`s just a guess.

 

Edited June 15, 2017 by Matt_Z

[Maurizio Dal Col]

Hi guys

This morning I received from my MA the request for the second VAC English.

Someone knows if, at this stage, we can be sure to get soon the visas or something might get wrong?

About 1 month ago the nomination has been approved.

Thanks mate.

Maurizio

[jess6]

7 hours ago, MaggieMay24 said:

BVBs are fairly easy to get for anyone who needs/wants to travel overseas while waiting for their visa to be processed.

I don't think there's anything dodgy about the situation, DIBP has had cut-backs in staff over the past 6-18 months so it means they are trying to process a higher quantity of applications with fewer staff.  And they're also needing to make more scrutiny of applications to avoid fraudulent applications, ensure they aren't letting potential terrorists into the country, etc.  So of course this impacts on processing times.  I'm not sure how they determine the priority of processing, but since TRT applicants are of course already working for an Australian employer, they would likely be considered higher priority than DE applicants who may not even be in Australia.

It's a frustrating process that takes a great deal of patience, but hopefully you will all consider it worth it in the end.

I understand your logic but if DIPB is understaffed and criminal checks are taking longer why do they continue approving transition streams faster instead of clearing the backlog?

DE applicants got told that their timelines would be 6 months when they applied, and several of us have waited 12 months already. So that is dodgy to have us wait over 12 months especially while people with similar occupations get approved in 6 months just because they go through transition.

Around me, I saw several people who have arrived here, have grabbed a 457 job they were not really qualified in, went through transition and got their PR after having been here 2 years and a half here. Just because they went through transition.

Meanwhile, quite a few DE applicants who went through skills assessment - which is not east by the way - and have a higher level of English than transition applicants  see their timelines increase regularly "just because reasons".

FYI - I have been working in Oz for 5 years and my partner in Australian so it's not like I have zero reasons to be here.

I have also seen people (like Izzie) who studied and worked here and have been in total over a decade here and waited 13 months to see their PR granted, just because they went through DE stream.

Sorry, but yeah, I find it a little dodgy, unfair and illogical. Sorry for the rant but I have lost my patience in the process

[jess6]

4 hours ago, Yvi said:

My MA said exactly the same. It is too risky. If anything goes wrong while being overseas the immigration department may not allow you to enter the country again, not even to pick up your private things. Also, you may have to re-do the medical and police clearance once you go overseas depending where you travel to. It is not worth it risking your PR. 

I am double checking this with my agent but I have to travel for work so it would be quite a weird situation if they were refusing the visa while I am overseas for work... Worst case scenario my Australian partner would send me my stuff back to France I guess...

I think that being constantly anxious around what could and could not happen prevents us from living our life. Who knows, we might get hit by a bus tomorrow while crossing the street.

So I will do that work travel and will visit my grand-ma. Period. 

I have no problem with providing police checks and Health checks again if that let me do my job and see my family. Seeing my family has a higher value than a few hundred bucks.

Edited June 15, 2017 by jess6