paul1977 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Oh come on, if you were that desperate you would have a health care card!!!! I remember you being on here letting us know you were living the high life on your big wages, so maybe you should have put some of them away for emergencies.keep your nose out I would suggest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) keep your nose out I would suggestand is what I say any of your business! While I am at it your are a moaning whinge as well! maybe thats why your sticking together! Edited December 18, 2014 by AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1977 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 and is what I say any of your business! While I am at it your are a moaning whinge as well! maybe thats why your sticking together! Stop it or I'll tell my mum of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 So much whinging Paul. You should move home... Must be awful to be so upset all the time, or are you just a serial complainer wherever you are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1977 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 So much whinging Paul. You should move home... Must be awful to be so upset all the time, or are you just a serial complainer wherever you are? I am moving home.. Got my plan and time frame.. Your life can't be too smart, you spend all day everyday on here talking about a country you don't live in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I am moving home.. Got my plan and time frame.. Your life can't be too smart, you spend all day everyday on here talking about a country you don't live in I'm at work :wink:. Perfectly happy thanks hence I don't need to blame a country for my woes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 no health service is free (maybe Cuba?)but this is my heath care in WA last month: doctor appointment (we have no bulk bills) $38 but x two as needed two = $76 Prescription = = 85 I actually needs another two mess including a statin but I simply can't afford them chest X-ray = $224 next month nth and probably the month after even these will not happen as I simply don't have the cash. None were claimable on Medicare or private. We will have to drop our private health cover in the next couple of months. At which point, I will no longer be able to afford an ambulance for a heart attack - oh and two of the drugs I can no longer afford are to prevent it. So, I suspect 2015 maybe my bow out. Do you get a PBS Safety Net card at the beginning of each calendar year where you keep the stickers from the pharmacy each time you or anyone in your family has a prescription filled? We do and from about June or July every year, our cost per prescription drops to (at present) $6 from the usual $38. And have you registered with Medicare for the Medicare Safety net for your family. You've probably done both things but I've been surprised at how few people know that the safety nets exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1977 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I'm at work :wink:. Perfectly happy thanks hence I don't need to blame a country for my woes. You keep telling yourself that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 You keep telling yourself that Anything to offer on the thread at all? Sure everyone would appreciate your well thought out views on it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortlepuss Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 no health service is free (maybe Cuba?)but this is my heath care in WA last month: doctor appointment (we have no bulk bills) $38 but x two as needed two = $76 Prescription = = 85 I actually needs another two mess including a statin but I simply can't afford them chest X-ray = $224 next month nth and probably the month after even these will not happen as I simply don't have the cash. None were claimable on Medicare or private. We will have to drop our private health cover in the next couple of months. At which point, I will no longer be able to afford an ambulance for a heart attack - oh and two of the drugs I can no longer afford are to prevent it. So, I suspect 2015 maybe my bow out. This is an issue which continues to worry me. As an IT contractor I'm in and out of work and luckily have built up some savings now. But 18 months ago, work was thin on the ground and although I needed to go to the Drs, I didn't feel that we could justify the expense. As it was at the time we were hit with around $4K 'out of pocket' health expenses on top of what we had to pay for medical insurance. Not eligible for any benefit when I'm out of work as hubby works, albeit in quite a low paid profession. I definitely view healthcare as a bit of a luxury here. Great value for those that can afford it. if you're not flush and you're not skint sometimes you fall outside the net and have to prioritise, and for parents especially that can mean going without GP visits and medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 This is an issue which continues to worry me. As an IT contractor I'm in and out of work and luckily have built up some savings now. But 18 months ago, work was thin on the ground and although I needed to go to the Drs, I didn't feel that we could justify the expense. As it was at the time we were hit with around $4K 'out of pocket' health expenses on top of what we had to pay for medical insurance. Not eligible for any benefit when I'm out of work as hubby works, albeit in quite a low paid profession. I definitely view healthcare as a bit of a luxury here. Great value for those that can afford it. if you're not flush and you're not skint sometimes you fall outside the net and have to prioritise, and for parents especially that can mean going without GP visits and medication. Here in Sydney it's fairly easy to find a GP that bulk-bills. If you need specialist care, the public system is good - you just need to prompt the GP that you don't have health insurance and they will send you to a public specialist. My husband has never had health insurance in his life and rarely pays a cent for anything. The health funds in Australia do a marvellous job of scaring everyone into thinking they need insurance and that waiting lists are horrendous if you don't have it. However it's not true. I had a spinal fusion last year - even with health insurance, I was out of pocket about $10,000. However it was an important op and I comforted myself that I was able to get the best of care sooner than in the public health system. Then my friend's dad needed the same op, but he has no insurance so he went through the public system. He was booked in about a month later, and it cost him the grand total of $2,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest littlesarah Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Here in Sydney it's fairly easy to find a GP that bulk-bills. If you need specialist care, the public system is good - you just need to prompt the GP that you don't have health insurance and they will send you to a public specialist. My husband has never had health insurance in his life and rarely pays a cent for anything. The health funds in Australia do a marvellous job of scaring everyone into thinking they need insurance and that waiting lists are horrendous if you don't have it. However it's not true. I had a spinal fusion last year - even with health insurance, I was out of pocket about $10,000. However it was an important op and I comforted myself that I was able to get the best of care sooner than in the public health system. Then my friend's dad needed the same op, but he has no insurance so he went through the public system. He was booked in about a month later, and it cost him the grand total of $2,000. I think it depends on what procedure you need. For some procedures, it's best to get someone with that sub-specialty if you want to maximise your chances of a good outcome, and for that you may find that you have to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Here in Sydney it's fairly easy to find a GP that bulk-bills. If you need specialist care, the public system is good - you just need to prompt the GP that you don't have health insurance and they will send you to a public specialist. My husband has never had health insurance in his life and rarely pays a cent for anything. The health funds in Australia do a marvellous job of scaring everyone into thinking they need insurance and that waiting lists are horrendous if you don't have it. However it's not true. I had a spinal fusion last year - even with health insurance, I was out of pocket about $10,000. However it was an important op and I comforted myself that I was able to get the best of care sooner than in the public health system. Then my friend's dad needed the same op, but he has no insurance so he went through the public system. He was booked in about a month later, and it cost him the grand total of $2,000. what would happen to someone who had no money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest littlesarah Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 what would happen to someone who had no money? Presumably they wouldn't have health insurance anyway, so they'd go via the public system, like the person in the last paragraph (and if they had a healthcare card may well not have to pay even the $2000) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Presumably they wouldn't have health insurance anyway, so they'd go via the public system, like the person in the last paragraph (and if they had a healthcare card may well not have to pay even the $2000) what if they were out of work earned very little and could not afford health insurance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 what if they were out of work earned very little and could not afford health insurance? They would be treated in the public sector - they would also be getting some benefits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 what if they were out of work earned very little and could not afford health insurance? I figured you would know this from your time in Perth. Or was it Perth in Scotland? I'm totally confused now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 what if they were out of work earned very little and could not afford health insurance? There are safety nets. Like I said, my husband does not have health insurance and has rarely paid a cent for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Risky Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 A quick reply: I have worked in hospitals here after working in the UK NHS/Military for 15 years. After leaving Defence last year I started nursing in Private sector hospitals. I was so shocked at how behind the UK the Australian health sector is. Basic best practice in UK is not adhered to in Australia and medical management is poor to say the very least, cleanliness and good nursing care is not governed well at all in Australia. I do love it here but certainly not regarding health. I left the Private sector and went to where my heart lay. I have now started a masters in mental health and clinical counselling and moved to mental health in Illawarra and I am enjoying it. We are aiming to move to the UK in 2017 after 8 years in Oz. One of the main reasons for us is the poor state of healthcare treatment even when we have top notch private. I am more shocked that your husband presumes the UK would be behind Private healthcare in Oz. Profits and healthcare can not coexist and create good healthcare for patients. The NHS was a fantastic organisation with excellent outcomes and clinical parameters underpinned by evidence based practice. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndoe Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 A quick reply: I have worked in hospitals here after working in the UK NHS/Military for 15 years. After leaving Defence last year I started nursing in Private sector hospitals. I was so shocked at how behind the UK the Australian health sector is. Shouldn't you qualify that statement with "at the hospitals I worked in" and/or "in the private sector"? All the Nurses that I know in Qld Health public sector prefer the Qld public health sector to the NHS..................for the many reasons that have been posted before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 A quick reply: I have worked in hospitals here after working in the UK NHS/Military for 15 years. After leaving Defence last year I started nursing in Private sector hospitals. I was so shocked at how behind the UK the Australian health sector is. Basic best practice in UK is not adhered to in Australia and medical management is poor to say the very least, cleanliness and good nursing care is not governed well at all in Australia. I do love it here but certainly not regarding health. I left the Private sector and went to where my heart lay. I have now started a masters in mental health and clinical counselling and moved to mental health in Illawarra and I am enjoying it. We are aiming to move to the UK in 2017 after 8 years in Oz. One of the main reasons for us is the poor state of healthcare treatment even when we have top notch private. I am more shocked that your husband presumes the UK would be behind Private healthcare in Oz. Profits and healthcare can not coexist and create good healthcare for patients. The NHS was a fantastic organisation with excellent outcomes and clinical parameters underpinned by evidence based practice. Good luck. Heard it many times on here that the NHS is far better than the aussie equivalent, we knock the NHS but when you work overseas you appreciate how good it is on your return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peach Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Heard it many times on here that the NHS is far better than the aussie equivalent Also heard it on here many times that healthcare in Australia is far better than the NHS. Have to decide based on your own opinions and experiences.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Also heard it on here many times that healthcare in Australia is far better than the NHS. Have to decide based on your own opinions and experiences.... I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelensvaleHoward Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Healthcare in both the UK and Australia have been very good to me I guess I only really know the Australian healthcare system now as this is where I live so can't judge what the UK system is like now as it's nearly 5 years since I used it But it was good when I did But things change like most things in life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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