nasirshah Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Hello Everybody, My brother applied for Last Remaining Relative Visa this week and I am struggling to find stories of people in similar situation. I have a question i.e. how long does it take to be given a queue after one has lodged a visa application? Please feel free to use this thread for other Last Remaining Relative visa application discussions :wink: Cheers, Nasir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 With an estimated processing time of over 56 years, there doesn't seem to be much point in getting a queue date. http://www.immi.gov.au/Live/Pages/family/other-family-visa-queue.aspx Other Family visa queue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Is it not possible to bring over parents anymore then. I wonder if the50 years quoted ffactor in most will die waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peach Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Is it not possible to bring over parents anymore then. I wonder if the50 years quoted ffactor in most will die waiting There are other visa options for aged parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenon4017 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Do you have to pay very much just to join the queue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 You must pay the VAC of $2370 (offshore) or $3520 (onshore) for the main applicant plus VACs for any other applicants and there will also be a medical at some point before getting a queue date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortlepuss Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 With an estimated processing time of over 56 years, there doesn't seem to be much point in getting a queue date.http://www.immi.gov.au/Live/Pages/family/other-family-visa-queue.aspx Other Family visa queue Revenue raising? ching ching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenon4017 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 You must pay the VAC of $2370 (offshore) or $3520 (onshore) for the main applicant plus VACs for any other applicants and there will also be a medical at some point before getting a queue date. I assume you get that back if, after 50 years, you're not successful. Oviously DIAC are just reporting the facts; x visas per year with y applications means y/x years of waiting. Must be very bitter for those contemplating this stream though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I assume you get that back if, after 50 years, you're not successful. Oviously DIAC are just reporting the facts; x visas per year with y applications means y/x years of waiting. Must be very bitter for those contemplating this stream though. Nope. No refunds. This visa (together with non-contributory Parent visas) was repealed and closed on 2nd June but they all had to be reinstated from 25 September when a Disallowance motion was passed in the Senate. It's only a matter of time before the governemnt finds a way around the problem and repeals them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 What are peoples options then? say in 20 years time and my girlfriends mum is the last one standing in the UK , can pass the balance of family test but wont have a lot of money, are there any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 What are peoples options then? say in 20 years time and my girlfriends mum is the last one standing in the UK , can pass the balance of family test but wont have a lot of money, are there any? It sounds like you're confusing Remaining Relative and non-Contributory Parent visas - parents are not eligible for RRVs. On the subject of future options... There's simply no way of knowing what will happen 20 years from now. Even the situation 6 months from now is problematic when it comes to non-Contributory Parent visas and Remaining Relative visas. IMO, anyone who is eligible now for either visa type should apply now while the visas are available and hope that the wait won't be as long as currently predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scattley Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 What are peoples options then? say in 20 years time and my girlfriends mum is the last one standing in the UK , can pass the balance of family test but wont have a lot of money, are there any? Then you pay for the contribution visa....it's not rocket science. If you truely with your mother or MIL to live with you, you will be prepared to forge the new car and instead pay for the visa for her to come over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 And I thought the waiting list for MCC membership was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinkla Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Broadly, Australia wants skilled migrants in certain categories. They can get visas quickly. Australia does not want inward migration of family members. They are resigned to accepting partners, although the processing times have increased fivefold over the past five years. But other family members are really not wanted and the processing times for visas will be designed to ensure that they are practically impossible to obtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirshah Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 What are peoples options then? say in 20 years time and my girlfriends mum is the last one standing in the UK , can pass the balance of family test but wont have a lot of money, are there any? She doesn't have to wait to be the Last Remaining Relative, she can apply for parent visa now if she meets the Balance of Family test i.e. no more children in any other country than Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirshah Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Well some good news, the Immigration Department send an acknowledgement letter just 3 days after they recieved the RRL visa application. However they didn't provide a queue date, would that be in another letter, wonder when is a queue date allocated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggieMay24 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 After you have applied After you have lodged your application and documents, we will let you know that we have received your information. Wait for a decision We assess applications for this visa in the order in which they are lodged with the processing office, subject to the Other Family Visa Queue. There is a high demand for family migration visas and only a limited number of places are available. Applications for this visa are subject to capping and queuing arrangements and in accordance with any relevant Ministerial Directions. This means your application is considered in two stages: Your application is assessed against the requirements for this visa. It is then either placed in a queue to wait for a visa place to become available, or it is refused. If it is placed in a queue, we will let you know what your queue date is. In the interest of fairness and equity, there is no provision to move your application ahead of others in the queue even if there are compelling and compassionate circumstances. When a visa place becomes available: we assess your application to check whether you still qualify for this visa (including health and character requirements and an assurance of support) if you qualify for this visa, we ask for the second instalment of the visa application charge we make a final decision about your visa application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirshah Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 After you have applied After you have lodged your application and documents, we will let you know that we have received your information. Wait for a decision We assess applications for this visa in the order in which they are lodged with the processing office, subject to the Other Family Visa Queue. There is a high demand for family migration visas and only a limited number of places are available. Applications for this visa are subject to capping and queuing arrangements and in accordance with any relevant Ministerial Directions. This means your application is considered in two stages: Your application is assessed against the requirements for this visa. It is then either placed in a queue to wait for a visa place to become available, or it is refused. If it is placed in a queue, we will let you know what your queue date is. In the interest of fairness and equity, there is no provision to move your application ahead of others in the queue even if there are compelling and compassionate circumstances. When a visa place becomes available: we assess your application to check whether you still qualify for this visa (including health and character requirements and an assurance of support) if you qualify for this visa, we ask for the second instalment of the visa application charge we make a final decision about your visa application. The issue is they have told us that they have received a valid application but didn't give a queue date! BTW where does second installment come from? Its not a contributory parent visa :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 A queue date doesn't tell you when you are likely to get a visa. It simply tells you that you have been accepted into the queue but you won't get a queue date until your application has undergone initial assessment to determine if you meet the visa eligibility requirements. The second instalment for each person included on the application is $2065 but it isn't payable until a visa place is available and you have met the health and other requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggieMay24 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Accepted as a valid application simply means you've met the most basic requirements (e.g. applied for an offshore visa and weren't onshore at the time). The next step will be a case officer reviews the application to see if the applicant meets the more specific requirements (e.g. looking at the family members and confirming they meet the requirements for remaining relative) - I'm not sure the time involved for this, but it would be after this point that you'd get a queue date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirshah Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Thanks Ozmaniac, $2065 is not bad, I don't have to buy Tattslotto tickets every morning :wink: Thanks Maggie, that was precisely my question and you have answered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debbs72 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Hi we are also in the same situation My husband and son and I are all citizens unfortunately my oldest son 21 years old couldn't come on our original visa as he was in full time employment. After visiting for a holiday and then coming out in May on a working holiday visa he loves it and wants to stay. So Monday we applied for Remaining Relative visa 835 onshore. After speaking with many migration agents we found althoe a massive wait this would be our only way to have our son with us. He will still have the same working conditions as his working holiday visa but at least he can stay lawfully and work. We received our acknowledgment letter on Thursday also 3 days after applying but thankfully the immigration gave him a bridging visa so he can stay in Australia until decision is made. I spoke to a helpful lady at Immi and she advised the the queuing letter if accepted could take 12-24 months. so we are not expecting anything soon this is when police and health checks plus second instalment will be asked for. with us it's not to bad our sons visa is onshore and as advised by Immi was he to get sponsorship along the way or meet anyone and get married he could apply for those visa even though costly it's something that may happen. He is happy to gain work where he can and travel Australia. anybody with any other info would be great good to hear other stories. sorry mines so long winded but hope it helps Debbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebourvellec Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Hi we are also in the same situation My husband and son and I are all citizens unfortunately my oldest son 21 years old couldn't come on our original visa as he was in full time employment. After visiting for a holiday and then coming out in May on a working holiday visa he loves it and wants to stay. So Monday we applied for Remaining Relative visa 835 onshore. After speaking with many migration agents we found althoe a massive wait this would be our only way to have our son with us. He will still have the same working conditions as his working holiday visa but at least he can stay lawfully and work. We received our acknowledgment letter on Thursday also 3 days after applying but thankfully the immigration gave him a bridging visa so he can stay in Australia until decision is made. I spoke to a helpful lady at Immi and she advised the the queuing letter if accepted could take 12-24 months. so we are not expecting anything soon this is when police and health checks plus second instalment will be asked for.with us it's not to bad our sons visa is onshore and as advised by Immi was he to get sponsorship along the way or meet anyone and get married he could apply for those visa even though costly it's something that may happen. He is happy to gain work where he can and travel Australia. anybody with any other info would be great good to hear other stories. sorry mines so long winded but hope it helps Debbs Same conditions as WHV is only 6 months with each employer, he will need to apply to get these restrictions lifted. Also another thing to consider if he becomes in a defacto relationship he is suppose to inform DIBP of change of circumstances as the defacto partners family are now considered as part of the LRR eligibility, if they have family that don't live in Australia he will no lonfpger qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debbs72 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Same conditions as WHV is only 6 months with each employer, he will need to apply to get these restrictions lifted. Also another thing to consider if he becomes in a defacto relationship he is suppose to inform DIBP of change of circumstances as the defacto partners family are now considered as part of the LRR eligibility, if they have family that don't live in Australia he will no lonfpger qualify. Hi Yes we are aware of all that thanks been researching it for weeks. Immi have sent us the details if he wants to get his working rights lifted. That's something we will look into once his WHV is over and he's on his bridging visa. He's young and has so much he wants to do here for us it's stepping stone all be it a long one it's worth it to have all our family together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirshah Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 Hi we are also in the same situation My husband and son and I are all citizens unfortunately my oldest son 21 years old couldn't come on our original visa as he was in full time employment. After visiting for a holiday and then coming out in May on a working holiday visa he loves it and wants to stay. So Monday we applied for Remaining Relative visa 835 onshore. After speaking with many migration agents we found althoe a massive wait this would be our only way to have our son with us. He will still have the same working conditions as his working holiday visa but at least he can stay lawfully and work. We received our acknowledgment letter on Thursday also 3 days after applying but thankfully the immigration gave him a bridging visa so he can stay in Australia until decision is made. I spoke to a helpful lady at Immi and she advised the the queuing letter if accepted could take 12-24 months. so we are not expecting anything soon this is when police and health checks plus second instalment will be asked for.with us it's not to bad our sons visa is onshore and as advised by Immi was he to get sponsorship along the way or meet anyone and get married he could apply for those visa even though costly it's something that may happen. He is happy to gain work where he can and travel Australia. anybody with any other info would be great good to hear other stories. sorry mines so long winded but hope it helps Debbs Hi Debbs, Ours is exactly same situation all of us are Australian citizens/PRs except my brother. He is on a Graduate 485 visa so thankfully his application was Onshore subclass 835 as well. Another thing I am not sure if you know is that a Bridging Visa is automatically granted when you apply for a LRR visa. The details of it will be in the Acknowledgement Letter sent by IMMI. My brother got full working rights and access to medicare. However the Bridging Visa will come into force when his graduate visa expires next year. I guess it will be same for your son, once his Working Holiday Visa expires he will automatically switch on to the Bridging Visa the next day. That bridging visa might not have any work restrictions. He might also be eligible for medicare. Like lebourvellec said, if he meets someone whose entire family are Australian citizens/PRs then his LRR won't be impact but if the partner has a family member who is not Australian citizen/PR then his application will be become invalid. He better ask for a family tree and all family passports before he gets into a relationship lol :wink: However if the partner is Australian citizen/PR then she can sponsor him for a spouse visa after which he can expect PR in 12-18 months. Thanks for info on Queuing Letter, I have been precisely after this information since I started the thread. Got it now :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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