Wellers and Whitehead Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 No probs,just curious thats all,ta for that My OH just sent me a birthday present from oz, postage alone cost $63 for a 5x5 inch box, with a tea pot in! He bought some steel toe cap boots on UK e bay for £9.99 in oz he said ones similar were $100, so I posted them for £18, heavier than what he got me. That example just sprung to my head ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 awwwwwwww im a lefty t##t!:laugh: i cant help meself :twitcy:,tara,i'm off!:wubclub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellers and Whitehead Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 And in general wages are higher in Australia. Compare UK minimum wage (GBP 6.31 + zero for casual workers) to Australia ($16.37 + an additional 24% loading for casual workers).. I sound like Hoff. i personally wasn't on more, but much less, and I think it's time limited to how long casual workers are going to get penalty rates, that's sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I do get the gist yeah,is this allowing for the 2.2 malarkey over wages etc tho,just wondering btw,thats all? I think the things is in order to 'break even' you need to earn 2.2 (or thereabouts) what you do in the UK but an awful lot of people don't - I know I certainly didn't - when i first moved to Perth my salary was less in $ than I'd been earning in £. It did go up quite quickly but was probably never 2.2 (I got promoted twice and ended up in a much more senior position but of course in 5 years in the UK my career would have progress - though if I'm honest probably not as quickly - I was a big fish in a small pond in Perth. The daily rate I'm getting back in the UK is about 55% of what I got in Perth in a very similar role. Then add to that living in a place where the average house price is £118,849 (just googled it!) against Perth's around $500k and it's a no brainer where financially I'm better off. Of course you can't measure life's riches in money but I have to be honest being broke the whole time after being affluent for probably 20 years wasn't as easy as I thought it'd be. Some people are better off in Australia and 'humble brickies' probably fall into that category, there isn't the same class divisions and in many cases manual work pays as much, if not more than professions. I think as well that if you are not tied to the CBD for work you can live on the outer reaches of Perth more easily and it is cheaper too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Like i've said Jez,i know its not so simple,its just that all these complications always work in favour of the energy supplier,uncanny eh! Pablo - I used to work for a bank of sorts - MBNA. They bought my old company, and they made us all sign new employment contracts or leave. We had no choice. I didn't think much of it till I got sick. I got 4 weeks sick leave, and then they cut my salary to 75% of what it was (I had just under 5 years service). They effectively forced me to work through chemo. I had a young family and mortgage - what could I do. They knew how sick I was - but they didn't care. I pleaded with them (publicly) and got an offical warning. After I achieved remission, they made me 'redundant'. My current employer - an energy company took me on, knowing full well that I had been sick. My employer is very equal opportunity. We have have the full range of people, several with disabilities. When I got sick again, my (nasty money hungry energy company) did everything they could to help me back on my feet. They couldn't have been more helpful, and they still are. My company puts safety above profit. My company puts their people first and treats them like family. My company uses UK call centres and only users offshore computer development when there are no other options. (We are not London based, and even in this climate it can be hard to get the staff). My company makes a profit - it is a company after all. The directors get paid well. But it is not a bank, and doesn't deserve to get tarred with a harsher brush than they are using on the banks ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Just wondering, have any of you lived in oz lately? I'm just back from two years in oz, and UK is cheap as chips! We've just been on holiday for a month or so in the UK and honestly there is not much to choose between cost of living. Going for a pint in a pub is cheaper for sure, so if that's one of your priorities go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 life in general is cheaper, food, bedding, rent, house prices, free prescriptions ha, going out for a hot choc and scone, you get the gist! food, some dearer some cheaper. We find the cost of meat a lot less here. bedding?? Wouldn't know the wife buys that stuff but how often do you have to buy bedding? rent ?? Maybe but are you comparing like for like. That is a 4 x 2 with a pool next to the ocean compared to a 3 x 1 in a City suburb. If you compare like for like, which would be a bit tough in the UK as there aren't that many beachside suburbs to choose from, I'll bet there wouldn't be much difference. House prices, same as above. Hot choc and scone we found much the same as was going for a pub lunch. We were taking my parents and my wifes parents out a lot to decent places and I reckon on average about 15 quid for a decent meal. That's without the couple of pints. You can get a decent lunch for the same price here. The cost of heating/cooling over the year and our energy costs would be way less than the UK too. We were surprised we didn't find it cheaper to be honest. I've seen so many threads on here about how cheap it is in comparison we were disappointed to have spent so much. We had a few days in Sentosa Island on the way back. Now that is expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I got paid much less in oz, so that probably made a different to have expensive things felt, however I do still find things cheaper. Just looking at house prices and amazed how cheap they are compared to something similar in oz, well, I couldn't afford a place in oz for a long long time! When I say afford a place I mean save for the deposit. Mate if you were getting paid less in Aus I can see your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 My OH just sent me a birthday present from oz, postage alone cost $63 for a 5x5 inch box, with a tea pot in! He bought some steel toe cap boots on UK e bay for £9.99 in oz he said ones similar were $100, so I posted them for £18, heavier than what he got me. That example just sprung to my head ha! Was that Oz e-bay or in a shop? Of course they're a lot more in a shop. I've just bought some today and they were $120. If I had gone on e-bay from here I could have picked some up for the same price your hubby paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest 47403 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 My OH just sent me a birthday present from oz, postage alone cost $63 for a 5x5 inch box, with a tea pot in! He bought some steel toe cap boots on UK e bay for £9.99 in oz he said ones similar were $100, so I posted them for £18, heavier than what he got me. That example just sprung to my head ha! No offence but if you you bought new boots off ebay for £9.99 they are going to be crap quality, your OH will be wishing you had spent that $100 after an hour wearing them, I recently bought some and couldn't get a half decent pair for less than £40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Pablo - I used to work for a bank of sorts - MBNA. They bought my old company, and they made us all sign new employment contracts or leave. We had no choice. I didn't think much of it till I got sick. I got 4 weeks sick leave, and then they cut my salary to 75% of what it was (I had just under 5 years service). They effectively forced me to work through chemo. I had a young family and mortgage - what could I do. They knew how sick I was - but they didn't care. I pleaded with them (publicly) and got an offical warning. After I achieved remission, they made me 'redundant'. My current employer - an energy company took me on, knowing full well that I had been sick. My employer is very equal opportunity. We have have the full range of people, several with disabilities. When I got sick again, my (nasty money hungry energy company) did everything they could to help me back on my feet. They couldn't have been more helpful, and they still are. My company puts safety above profit. My company puts their people first and treats them like family. My company uses UK call centres and only users offshore computer development when there are no other options. (We are not London based, and even in this climate it can be hard to get the staff). My company makes a profit - it is a company after all. The directors get paid well. But it is not a bank, and doesn't deserve to get tarred with a harsher brush than they are using on the banks ffs. I'm genuinely glad they're looking after you Jez,and every company needs to make £ obv,but the monopoly the big 6 have on energy is wrong,but then thats my attitude to energy,water and the like being privatised,water being poured down the drain by the billions of gallons but not enuf £ going into repairing leaks,as it will impact on the share holders dividends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I'm genuinely glad they're looking after you Jez,and every company needs to make £ obv,but the monopoly the big 6 have on energy is wrong,but then thats my attitude to energy,water and the like being privatised,water being poured down the drain by the billions of gallons but not enuf £ going into repairing leaks,as it will impact on the share holders dividends I agree there should be more competition. BG still holds the majority of gas customers. This should change. I did laugh when the papers had a go at BG for always using a standing charge when it was a govt requirement. It is a joke. The unemployed, disabled, immigrants, tescos, train companies, and now energy companies are being blamed for the GFC, when the banks and property speculators are getting off Scot free, and the people fall for it cos the papers tell them to. Yes, there are problems with all the above. But the biggest problem is that no one has had a pay rise in five years and inflation is too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest 47403 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I agree there should be more competition. BG still holds the majority of gas customers. This should change. I did laugh when the papers had a go at BG for always using a standing charge when it was a govt requirement. It is a joke. The unemployed, disabled, immigrants, tescos, train companies, and now energy companies are being blamed for the GFC, when the banks and property speculators are getting off Scot free, and the people fall for it cos the papers tell them to. Yes, there are problems with all the above. But the biggest problem is that no one has had a pay rise in five years and inflation is too high. Can I add too high unemployment to that keeping wages down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpo1971 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 We've just been on holiday for a month or so in the UK and honestly there is not much to choose between cost of living. Going for a pint in a pub is cheaper for sure, so if that's one of your priorities go for it. We've just been as well and I'd agree with you. 15 quid for a decent meal, 15 quid for burger and chips in Liverpool. And 4 quid a pint. Not much in it for most things if you ask me. You can get cheap but its usually rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 We've just been as well and I'd agree with you. 15 quid for a decent meal, 15 quid for burger and chips in Liverpool. And 4 quid a pint. Not much in it for most things if you ask me.You can get cheap but its usually rubbish. They saw you coming mate.. http://www.sizzlingpubs.co.uk/offer/classicburger/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacaranda Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 We've just been as well and I'd agree with you. 15 quid for a decent meal, 15 quid for burger and chips in Liverpool. And 4 quid a pint. Not much in it for most things if you ask me.You can get cheap but its usually rubbish. If you paid £15 for a burger and chips and £4 for a pint,you got ripped off mate!I live in the Sth West,and we went out last night.First stop was the local Wetherspoons,pints £2.15 (they have a great beer festie on at present).We then went into another pub,pints £2.50!We just had a micro brewery bar open in our town on Friday.Went in there last night,bottles of beer 2 @ £4!I asked the landlord if this was an opening special and he replied it was'nt,he did'nt believe in ripping folk off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacaranda Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 They saw you coming mate..http://www.sizzlingpubs.co.uk/offer/classicburger/ [ATTACH=CONFIG]21457[/ATTACH] Wetherspoons have a similar menu/prices!Ok it might not be fine dining,but if we fancy a takeout,rather than going for a chippie/chinese or whatever,we use Wetherspoons,and you get a drink thrown in too!lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slean Wolfhead Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I really appreciate what Labour did for the UK investment wise, we have a nice shiny new hospital (well was about 3 years ago) which the local population are now stuck with for the next 30+ years paying 3x what it is actually worth through Labours great PPP scheme! No thanks, I will stick to spending the money I have got and can afford to borrow rather than simply racking up massive debts to win a popularity contests.....open your eyes! PFI was actually a Tory invention by John Major's government first used in the early 90's and is still the current Tory/Lib Dem Government's preferred method. Labour did complain vociferously in opposition, but when they got into power in 1997 they decided to retain it. But they're politician's, so you should expect that they will lie to you. The issue has always been poor examination of the contracts and a lack of control over future costs, all of which are weighted towards the "private" partner because they take the financial risk in borrowing the upfront costs, and they take the profits...and often retain ownership of the facility upon completion of the term. This was always the initial complaint, but it was deemed that this was the only way finance could be raised because Governments would no longer provide funding. As to what is a reasonable profit is up for debate, and the private sector will take as much as they are allowed to get away with, and they have been allowed to get away with scandalous profits that have actually bankrupted the organisations they were set up to assist. Since 2009 the practice has continued, but with a major change. "Private" finance was not available after the worldwide crash, so the Tory/LibDem Government has been funding the "private" part through loans. You're left with the ridiculous situation of public money being given to the private sector to enable them to build the facilities, which they will then use to gouge huge payments from the public purse over the next 25-30 years. We're not only mortgaging our future, taxpayers are providing the mortgage finance in the first place then getting charged for it being used on our behalf! It's completely ludicrous. If you go back to the initial concept in 1992, the business case is disproven if Government's are having to fund anyway....and they could do it a helluva lot cheaper than the current method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slean Wolfhead Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 He bought some steel toe cap boots on UK e bay for £9.99 in oz he said ones similar were $100, so I posted them for £18, heavier than what he got me. That example just sprung to my head ha! Who did you use for posting from the UK? I can't get my mother to post me anything because the cheapest she can find for a medium sized box is about £70 from the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs75 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Still don't get it why people measure cost of living in pint prices...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellers and Whitehead Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Who did you use for posting from the UK? I can't get my mother to post me anything because the cheapest she can find for a medium sized box is about £70 from the UK. Normal post, air mail..not registered etc. it was just sent in a mans show box, so maybe she tried sending u a bigger box for that price!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellers and Whitehead Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 We've just been on holiday for a month or so in the UK and honestly there is not much to choose between cost of living. Going for a pint in a pub is cheaper for sure, so if that's one of your priorities go for it. i don't drink so no idea how much alcohol costs!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg73 Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Slean I hear your case however from 1997 the scheme was used on nearly all building projects. Yes in 2008 it almost stopped but then so did most of the western world, only now are some financially viable projects taking place. I am a great believer in having a choice, buy something if you can afford it or can afford the finance to secure the item. I also strongly beleive that everybody should be given an equal chance to succeed in life however you get what you deserve and if you work hard then you should be allowed to succeed. Race, class etc should not be an obstacle although I know that to many it is. Everybody should live within their means and unfortunately the loosening of the bankruptcy, credit rules, loosening of mortgages and the race to be landlords has ended up in a divided have and have not culture. Do remember the original ppp was introduced after a deep early 90's recession when financial tax intake was very tight. My main objection is it was also used in the good times to ensure popularity, as mentioned not fixing the roof whilst the weather was good! This holds a lot of truth in my eyes. Lets be honest and referring back to my original message, I love the UK however I am now in a position where Ive hit a ceiling with my employer working me harder, longer hours for same pay with little opportunity to better myself through promotion etc. Cost are ever increasing from power to food to clothes to simply socialising. UK is rapidly catching up with other developed and desirable countries like Australia, Hong Kong etc with costs increasing across the board and my and my wife's wages simply holding still with work conditions becoming harder. UK also costs significantly for socialising where Australia is equipped for outside living at little cost. Unions are teeth less unless in against public services where the tax payer picks up the bill, my wife is public I'm private services so see both sides. Australia is a conservative country at heart, give hard working people a chance and in my eyes will hopefully allow myself and my wife the chance to move forwards S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeybee Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 As a nurse, one thing that's getting me more and more fed up, is that the NHS are supporting nurses less and less. The registration fee for NMC each year has now raised to £100, it used to be around £70 only a year ago. The NHS used to pay for employment police checks, they now make the employee pay for it. Nurses will have to pay for their own indemnity insurance (again used to be paid for by the employer), not to mention a pay freeze, technically meaning a pay cut each year when you take into account inflation. It's no wonder so many nurses are emigrating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 We've just been as well and I'd agree with you. 15 quid for a decent meal, 15 quid for burger and chips in Liverpool. And 4 quid a pint. Not much in it for most things if you ask me.You can get cheap but its usually rubbish. Not sure where or what you were drinking but thats dear,i can go to loads of pubs in town and get a nice pint for about 2.50/3 quid,i can also go to some of the trendy ones down the dock and buy draught German beer for 7 or 8 quid,theres a new one near Mount Pleasant where i bought a few pints of the stuff for about a fiver,but normal pubs are cheaper than £4 normally,plus theres decent places to get a meal for less than 15 tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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